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Calling Bobkat and other LS conversion Experts, Electric Water Pump , Toyota Radiator and thermostat routing |
pdlightning |
Jan 15 2016, 08:49 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 207 Joined: 4-February 11 From: Santa Clarita Member No.: 12,660 Region Association: Southern California |
I know it has been listed before, but time has passed and I needed clarification from the experts that have already completed their conversions.
I am using a Meziere 55 GPM pump on my LS conversion and remember comments that a Toyota Supra or similiar car radiator was utilized .My questions are as follows: Which Meziere pump is best and how was the thermostat handled since it is removed with the stock pump? Am I close to remembering the Toyota Supra radiator? (Thanks Andy) Also, I received the attached response from Meziere and wondered if someone had a water routing diagram to help in designing the system . We do sell the WP316 water pump and others for the conversions. In the typical LS remote water pump you would run the 2 lines coming out of the pump go to the two lower ports on the front of the engine. The two upper port normally tee into 1 line at the engine and the thermostat would go in this line returning to the radiator. (Thanks to Jerry from Meziere) Thanks to all for your continued support and guidance! |
Andyrew |
Jan 15 2016, 10:13 PM
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Spooling.... Please wait Group: Members Posts: 13,376 Joined: 20-January 03 From: Riverbank, Ca Member No.: 172 Region Association: Northern California |
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...=196107&hl=
Have you bought that water pump yet? If not you might consider a Davies Craig water pump. http://daviescraig.com.au/electric-water-pumps I bought this one. http://www.ebay.com/itm/161666642895?_trks...K%3AMEBIDX%3AIT |
jimkelly |
Jan 16 2016, 05:29 AM
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Delaware USA Group: Members Posts: 4,969 Joined: 5-August 04 From: Delaware, USA Member No.: 2,460 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
celica radiator
http://www.ebay.com/itm/180911644623?_trks...K%3AMEBIDX%3AIT see my threads http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...=270334&hl= http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...2240&st=300 many thanks to bigkat and A&P mech.. |
BIGKAT_83 |
Jan 16 2016, 07:35 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,798 Joined: 25-January 03 From: Way down south Bogart,GA Member No.: 194 Region Association: South East States |
On my LS conversion I used a Dodge belt driven nascar engine water pump. I modified this to mount remote on the LS engine. This is a pump made by stewart.
On the front for the air intake I took out the rubber plugs in the holes and cut this area. I then used a GT front valance and cut the matching opening in the front bumper. I'm not using the Toyota Celica radiator but feel like it would work fine. Meziere can sell you all the parts you need to install their pump on the LS engine. My pump I'll send you a pm with another option. Bob |
bulitt |
Jan 16 2016, 08:44 AM
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Achtzylinder Group: Members Posts: 4,188 Joined: 2-October 11 Member No.: 13,632 Region Association: South East States |
I use the Dedenbear manifold and Elec water pump on my SBC but the pump would work on an LS.
I found this electronic controller which will manage the electric water pump and your fans. They also sell inline fan controllers. http://daviescraig.com.au/product/lcd-ewp-...er-part-no-8000 |
1stworks |
Jan 16 2016, 08:56 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 491 Joined: 31-March 13 From: colorado Member No.: 15,718 Region Association: None |
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1stworks |
Jan 16 2016, 09:07 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 491 Joined: 31-March 13 From: colorado Member No.: 15,718 Region Association: None |
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andys |
Jan 16 2016, 11:19 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,165 Joined: 21-May 03 From: Valencia, CA Member No.: 721 Region Association: None |
I see you sketched an in line thermostat. Wouldn't that configuration bog down the electric WP? Andys |
1stworks |
Jan 16 2016, 12:17 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 491 Joined: 31-March 13 From: colorado Member No.: 15,718 Region Association: None |
I see you sketched an in line thermostat. Wouldn't that configuration bog down the electric WP? Andys T Stats still flows when closed.There's a small hole in it. |
andys |
Jan 16 2016, 01:12 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,165 Joined: 21-May 03 From: Valencia, CA Member No.: 721 Region Association: None |
I see you sketched an in line thermostat. Wouldn't that configuration bog down the electric WP? Andys T Stats still flows when closed.There's a small hole in it. That electric WP flows 55 GPM, and the hole in the Tstat is awfully small for that much volume. I'm just concerned that there would be undue load on the electric motor in the WP until the Tstat opens. Does Meziere recommend this configuration? Thanks, Andys |
1stworks |
Jan 17 2016, 09:45 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 491 Joined: 31-March 13 From: colorado Member No.: 15,718 Region Association: None |
I see you sketched an in line thermostat. Wouldn't that configuration bog down the electric WP? Andys T Stats still flows when closed.There's a small hole in it. That electric WP flows 55 GPM, and the hole in the Tstat is awfully small for that much volume. I'm just concerned that there would be undue load on the electric motor in the WP until the Tstat opens. Does Meziere recommend this configuration? Thanks, Andys No problems using this setup.Have a few thousand miles. This Renagade recommendation.... You'll kill your motor if you don't run it at operating temp. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i1315.photobucket.com-15718-1453045511.1.jpg) |
pdlightning |
Jan 24 2016, 04:44 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 207 Joined: 4-February 11 From: Santa Clarita Member No.: 12,660 Region Association: Southern California |
I know it has been listed before, but time has passed and I needed clarification from the experts that have already completed their conversions. I am using a Meziere 55 GPM pump on my LS conversion and remember comments that a Toyota Supra or similiar car radiator was utilized .My questions are as follows: Which Meziere pump is best and how was the thermostat handled since it is removed with the stock pump? Am I close to remembering the Toyota Supra radiator? (Thanks Andy) Also, I received the attached response from Meziere and wondered if someone had a water routing diagram to help in designing the system . We do sell the WP316 water pump and others for the conversions. In the typical LS remote water pump you would run the 2 lines coming out of the pump go to the two lower ports on the front of the engine. The two upper port normally tee into 1 line at the engine and the thermostat would go in this line returning to the radiator. (Thanks to Jerry from Meziere) Thanks to all for your continued support and guidance! With all this excellent information, I will have to consult with my engineering consultant (Andy) to figure out everything. I am very appreciative of the information, thanks. I couldn't do this without your help and Andy's guidance. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/pray.gif) |
jimkelly |
Jan 25 2016, 06:36 AM
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Delaware USA Group: Members Posts: 4,969 Joined: 5-August 04 From: Delaware, USA Member No.: 2,460 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
wow. I like this. seems to be a lot less hose on the front of a sbc.
I use the Dedenbear manifold and Elec water pump on my SBC but the pump would work on an LS. I found this electronic controller which will manage the electric water pump and your fans. They also sell inline fan controllers. http://daviescraig.com.au/product/lcd-ewp-...er-part-no-8000 |
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