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> Engine is slooowly coming together, Here's the shortblock
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post Jul 25 2003, 06:30 AM
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What's the reason for not using Carrera Chain Tensioners?
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post Jul 25 2003, 06:45 AM
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The mechanical tensioners are just as reliable as the pressure-fed ones. They just need to be adjusted at around the same intervals as the valves. They tend to be a bit noisier at startup but then tighten up after the engine warms up and expands.

Ask any racer about mechanical vs. hydraulic and you will get your answer. The majority of the mechanical failures is because of the old Ronco train of thought... "set it and forget it".
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post Jul 25 2003, 08:06 AM
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and geoff thought the westin was too pricey. what is your plan for the exhaust? header or he..'s.? we should zip down and you should talk to dave ellison when you are here. 1 hour +or- from seattle.

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post Jul 25 2003, 09:31 AM
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1 5/8" European Racing Headers from George Narbel in Nevada are on their way. Then off to Jet Hot for coating...

My finished engine should loke something along the lines of... but the carbs won't be as "bling bling" as the new PMOs on this guy's engine...


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post Jul 25 2003, 09:34 AM
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Carbon Fiber Shroud...


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post Jul 25 2003, 09:52 AM
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Why aren't you using SSIs from Brad? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) Oh... that's right... he's into Ferraris and doesn't have time for HEs for 914/6s (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wavey.gif)
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post Jul 25 2003, 10:25 AM
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QUOTE(kellzey @ Jul 25 2003, 08:31 AM)
1 5/8" European Racing Headers from George Narbel in Nevada are on their way.  Then off to Jet Hot for coating...

My finished engine should loke something along the lines of... but the carbs won't be as "bling bling" as the new PMOs on this guy's engine...

You coulda asked George to ship directly to Jet-Hot in Tempe AZ. I had GPR do that with my headers and they were at my door in a week, coated.

I know that JW (Otto) is not a big fan of the pressure-fed tensioners on race motors. I believe he runs regular hydraulic tensioners with stops. Plus, obviously race motors are pulled and inspected/serviced very frequently compared to typical street powerplants. I don't know if you can use stops with the Carrera ones; so, even though they don't fail very often -- they DO fail sometimes -- and they go completely slack.

I have also heard of issues with the PMO's from the racer crowd. They are a great product, but not quite as well "sorted" as the tried-n-true Webers, yet. I'm sticking with Webers for now and maybe in the future will jump to a Tec-III setup or something.
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post Jul 25 2003, 10:48 AM
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Yes Karl.. please put the locks on your tensioners just for 100% peace of mind.

Karl.. who did you end up buying the shroud from ?? I need to get one for customers conversion car (3.0) I know Getty seels them.. but I would like to at least do some shopping for one.


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post Jul 25 2003, 10:49 AM
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Oh.. can Chris or Karl PLEASE post Georges contact info.. several people have asked me for it and I have to dig out paperwork everytime (can't seam to get his info in the computer)


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post Jul 25 2003, 10:57 AM
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George Narbel
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1010 N. Stephanie St.
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Henderson, NV 89014
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No email, web site, or credit cards AFAIK...
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post Jul 25 2003, 11:00 AM
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Thanks Chris.. I'm going to put him on the "Vendors page"



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post Jul 25 2003, 12:51 PM
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QUOTE(kellzey @ Jul 25 2003, 04:45 AM)
The mechanical tensioners are just as reliable as the pressure-fed ones. They just need to be adjusted at around the same intervals as the valves.

Isn't it a PITA to get to them with engine in the car? The front cooling tin runs right across the front of the chain cover plate.

-Mike D.
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post Jul 25 2003, 02:34 PM
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Get the shroud from AIR (American International Racing)

A 911 internet friend of mine... bought the shroud from GT Racing, one other outfit, and from AIR.

He returned the GT racing and the other shroud because the quality was crap.

The shroud is about $600 for five pieces... (main engine shroud, oil cooler cover, 2 block offs, and the fifth piece which escapes me because I am tired).

Here is the guy who can make you carbon fiber watershields for your K&N.

carbonjoe@attbi.com


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post Jul 25 2003, 02:50 PM
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We already buy from carbon Joe.. thanks !!


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post Jul 25 2003, 04:38 PM
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karl, i'd love to see your grin after your first drive!!

is carbon joe making the watershields again?!? has anybody been in contact with him??

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post Jul 25 2003, 05:01 PM
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Joe is SLOOOOW to respond, but he's making the watershields again. He's vacuum backing them new which pulls the resin through the CF better.

I think they are $125 a pair including shipping.

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post Jul 25 2003, 05:04 PM
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bagging... vacuum bagging them. Not trying to correct you.. just letting people know the process.

RogerS does this with all his fiberglass components. It makes them much much stronger (no air gaps..which is typically where it would crack when under stress)


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post Jul 25 2003, 05:43 PM
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The fan and fan shroud came back from the powder coater.

Too bad the shiny shroud will face the firewall and no one will see it (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)


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post Jul 25 2003, 05:47 PM
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Looking gooooooood!
If you're making the "latch" in the firewall for the fanbelt replacement/adjustment access, make it out of lexan (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

cheers,

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post Jul 26 2003, 12:46 AM
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Karl,

I polished my fan and then Alex said, "what are you doing that for" I says "so it'll look good" and he says "yeah, but who's gonna see it" I says "oh, I will until we install it" DOH.


It looks nice, and I would do it again!

Very nice Job!!
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