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Engine Lid Modification |
GregAmy |
Mar 21 2016, 07:44 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,412 Joined: 22-February 13 From: Middletown CT Member No.: 15,565 Region Association: North East States |
Very clever, thank you for the description and pics.
Since I have a hood pin holding down the rear of the engine lid, I'm wondering if I should just do that to the front, too...pull pins, lift out of car (I already do that with the rear trunk lid). I'm tempted to just leave the damned engine cover off the car entirely... Thanks again. |
Steve |
Mar 21 2016, 08:08 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,765 Joined: 14-June 03 From: Orange County, CA Member No.: 822 Region Association: Southern California |
I would also be interested in that mod
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McMark |
Mar 21 2016, 08:26 AM
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914 Freak! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,179 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
If I were going to pin something today, I would order these and see how they work.
http://www.quik-latch.com/black-anodized-m...quik-latch.html (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/www.quik-latch.com-419-1458570418.1.jpg) |
bandjoey |
Mar 21 2016, 12:09 PM
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bandjoey Group: Members Posts: 4,930 Joined: 26-September 07 From: Bedford Tx Member No.: 8,156 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Ok. This started as a quick remove engine lid thread and I'd like to have something work but simple. Here's my free idea gift to you.
A simple pocket attached to and below the firewall mount. Slide in the lid hinge, drop in a pin, close the lid. Pull the pin, slide the lid out and off. You make the pocket, add the pin, and sell the kit. It could attach to the firewall with jb weld, pop rivets, or some easy way to install the pocket. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smash.gif) Attached thumbnail(s) |
nein14 |
Mar 21 2016, 05:51 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 839 Joined: 6-February 03 From: USA Member No.: 262 |
If I were going to pin something today, I would order these and see how they work. http://www.quik-latch.com/black-anodized-m...quik-latch.html (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/www.quik-latch.com-419-1458570418.1.jpg) Just installed these in my GT front Getty front lid |
screenguy914 |
Mar 21 2016, 06:05 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 249 Joined: 6-July 09 From: So. Cal Member No.: 10,540 Region Association: Southern California |
Unless there's a simple add-on device to make this happen, I don't see many owners performing surgery on their lid (it's not a Honda).
The factory engine lid is too heavy to make everyday R&R convenient. Suggest a lightweight lid alternative; perhaps similar in appearance to the factory lid, with quick disconnect features. I'm surprised there already isn't a FG option. FWIW, I leave mine off because I'm in the engine compartment so often. Security-wise, the battery would be the most sought-after item in there (maybe the dipstick too). There are solutions for those scenarios. S |
Chris914n6 |
Mar 21 2016, 06:17 PM
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Jackstands are my life. Group: Members Posts: 3,423 Joined: 14-March 03 From: Las Vegas, NV Member No.: 431 Region Association: Southwest Region |
If I were going to pin something today, I would order these and see how they work. http://www.quik-latch.com/black-anodized-m...quik-latch.html (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/www.quik-latch.com-419-1458570418.1.jpg) There's the answer. Screw the pin into the chassis bracket nut, cut off the excess. Mount the black dish to the lid pivot. A little tricky if the spring rod is still active, and you don't have the rubber bumper anymore, but I would think doable. I've never used them so I'm assuming it has the holding power. |
914forme |
Mar 21 2016, 07:17 PM
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Times a wastin', get wrenchin'! Group: Members Posts: 3,896 Joined: 24-July 04 From: Dayton, Ohio Member No.: 2,388 Region Association: None |
Yes it has holding power, and optional springs to make it pop up. Either 10lbs or 20lbs.
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worn |
Mar 22 2016, 10:30 AM
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can't remember Group: Members Posts: 3,373 Joined: 3-June 11 From: Madison, WI Member No.: 13,152 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
Check out this rad engine lid modification Tim did on a project today. Ended up being a really quick mod. The lid only comes off when it's up all the way, so it's really secure when it's latched. I'll take some pictures tomorrow. I slotted the hinge hole and use bicycle fork cams as bolts. Open the hood, swing the two cams to loosen the bolt and slide back. One person job. Will try to post pics when I get home. It also works to slot the hinge and loosen the bolts just a bit. Your idea is going to work more easily, but mine retains the pop up, which isn't that big a deal. I am gonna bet someone else has posted a similar idea. |
GregAmy |
Mar 26 2016, 12:27 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,412 Joined: 22-February 13 From: Middletown CT Member No.: 15,565 Region Association: North East States |
I said "eff it" today, and after a quick trip to Lowe's to pick up some steel I did a front pin conversion on the race car. It was an easy fab, took a couple hours, including a beer or two while I mulled out exactly what I was going to do.
1-1/2" square perforated steel, bolted to the stock firewall bracket (so it can always go back easily). 1/2" hood pins through the holes. Removed the hinges from the decklid (used a drift to punch out the pins in 3-4 good whacks) and the front edge of the decklid rides right on the square steel at the right height. Couple holes in the decklid, adjustment of the pins, done. While I was doing this, I thought of a way you could do your removable decklid in semi-kit form. First, the end user can punch out the existing decklid pins easily, it really didn't take a lot for those splayed-out ends to give up. After that the only mod that has to be done to the decklid is to slot out the front of it to allow it to slide in, and you can provide a template for buyers to use to know where to cut. So in the end the buyer just needs a drift to get the slot out and some metal cutting tools for the slotting. You'll get a stack of the hinge brackets and mod them as needed (I can provide to you the first pair from the race car). You'll provide these modified brackets on a core/return basis so that you never run out. Along with that, you'll provide modified shank bolts that you've modified with the flat, and the user will install that with washers and Nylock lock nuts into the location where the hinge rod used to be (with instructions on the required orientation of the flats). Or maybe you fab up a specific threaded rod that could be inserted in its place? So, users buys hinge brackets and flattened rods from you (with a core charge for return of their hinge brackets). User drifts out the stock rods and removes the stock hinges. User grabs your template, places it correctly on the decklid and mods to your instructions. User bolts the two provided hinge brackets to the firewall and slides in their newly-removable engine decklid cover. Done. GA (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i1201.photobucket.com-15565-1459016874.1.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i1201.photobucket.com-15565-1459016874.2.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i1201.photobucket.com-15565-1459017083.1.jpg) |
Elliot Cannon |
Mar 26 2016, 06:03 PM
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914 Guru Group: Retired Members Posts: 8,487 Joined: 29-December 06 From: Paso Robles Ca. (Central coast) Member No.: 7,407 Region Association: None |
I said "eff it" today, and after a quick trip to Lowe's to pick up some steel I did a front pin conversion on the race car. It was an easy fab, took a couple hours, including a beer or two while I mulled out exactly what I was going to do. 1-1/2" square perforated steel, bolted to the stock firewall bracket (so it can always go back easily). 1/2" hood pins through the holes. Removed the hinges from the decklid (used a drift to punch out the pins in 3-4 good whacks) and the front edge of the decklid rides right on the square steel at the right height. Couple holes in the decklid, adjustment of the pins, done. While I was doing this, I thought of a way you could do your removable decklid in semi-kit form. First, the end user can punch out the existing decklid pins easily, it really didn't take a lot for those splayed-out ends to give up. After that the only mod that has to be done to the decklid is to slot out the front of it to allow it to slide in, and you can provide a template for buyers to use to know where to cut. So in the end the buyer just needs a drift to get the slot out and some metal cutting tools for the slotting. You'll get a stack of the hinge brackets and mod them as needed (I can provide to you the first pair from the race car). You'll provide these modified brackets on a core/return basis so that you never run out. Along with that, you'll provide modified shank bolts that you've modified with the flat, and the user will install that with washers and Nylock lock nuts into the location where the hinge rod used to be (with instructions on the required orientation of the flats). Or maybe you fab up a specific threaded rod that could be inserted in its place? So, users buys hinge brackets and flattened rods from you (with a core charge for return of their hinge brackets). User drifts out the stock rods and removes the stock hinges. User grabs your template, places it correctly on the decklid and mods to your instructions. User bolts the two provided hinge brackets to the firewall and slides in their newly-removable engine decklid cover. Done. GA (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i1201.photobucket.com-15565-1459016874.1.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i1201.photobucket.com-15565-1459016874.2.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i1201.photobucket.com-15565-1459017083.1.jpg) I'm liking this a lot. I've been threatening to do this for a long time. Thanks for the pics. Do you have any trouble lifting the cover off after you pull the pins? How do you grip the cover to lift it off? Nice install. |
johnpierre |
Mar 26 2016, 06:22 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 401 Joined: 11-September 12 From: culver city, ca Member No.: 14,913 Region Association: Southern California |
yep I want one as well...
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GregAmy |
Mar 26 2016, 06:23 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,412 Joined: 22-February 13 From: Middletown CT Member No.: 15,565 Region Association: North East States |
It's a PITA getting the lid initially cracked open. But once I have the aft edge lifted I can reach in the middle and lift it off. It's a bit awkward but not something I'm going to have to do all the time.
I'm going to rivet a strap or cable on the aft edge on the hood pin plate to assist with the initial lift. I'll probably toss some springs or rubber hose under there to help. I may also consider cutting out some of the understructure of the decklid to make it lighter. |
ahycaramba |
Jan 3 2020, 12:25 PM
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“I live my life a quarter mile at a time.” Group: Members Posts: 161 Joined: 17-March 15 From: Murrieta, California Member No.: 18,534 Region Association: Southern California |
Great ideal from a thread a few years back. What ever happened to this modification? Has this modification ever made production for a group buy? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif)
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