chassis number decoder, is this right? Options

[ClayPerrine]

Just a related side note...
I took a picture of the body tag on the Sounato GT at Rennsport.
It doesn't have a number on it, just the paint code.
"Curiouser and curiouser!" - Alice

@ClayPerrine
It's a /6 is it not? Them do not have a chassis number on the Karmann tag.
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I just looked at our six... and you are right. I never noticed that before.

I learned something new today.

[wonkipop]

Just a related side note...
I took a picture of the body tag on the Sounato GT at Rennsport.
It doesn't have a number on it, just the paint code.
"Curiouser and curiouser!" - Alice

@ClayPerrine
It's a /6 is it not? Them do not have a chassis number on the Karmann tag.
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I just looked at our six... and you are right. I never noticed that before.

I learned something new today.

so a 6 is pretty much as per a 911 in some way.
the chassis (or production number) would be there somewhere on the body - because its the build sheet number for the order.

those karmann tags on the 4 and the 6 would not have gone on until the car was virtually finished. they are like fancy little nameplate items. as they were building the cars they would have been going off the number where it is stamped in the metal in the trunk.
does the 6 have the number stamped there.

i forget where it was on 911s. i think it was in some obscure location on the floor pan or somewhere like that. the reutter plate or the karmann plate would have gone on pretty late in the piece of assembling the body before it got sent either across the road to the porsche assembly line or transported from karmann to the porsche assembly line.
(which for all intents and purposes during that era was a kind of hand assembly "garage".
it wasn't very big. i think porsche bought into reutter sometime in the early 60s but they did not have capacity to make all the porsche bodies. so karmann was always involved to some degree in porsche manufacture right through the 60s.

kind of puts paid to all the NARPOs who liked to look down their noses at 6s as if they were VWs when they might have been driving one of those VW built 911s themselves. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

[davep]

the karmann plate would be stamped with the porsche internal system numbers.
similar to the cars made at the ruetter body plant across the road from the porsche factory in stuttgart.

probably all the 911 and 912 bodies made at the karmann plant for porsche in the 1960s are similarly numbered as the 6. because karmann was making both the 911 and may have made all the 912s - or at least all the 912s for the USA.

The 914/6, AFAIK, only ever had the paint code on the Karmann tag. Initially they had the 2 digit paint codes used by Porsche in 1970 & 1971, but later changed to the VW codes as the 914/4 had.
Up until 1968 the 911 & 912 had the production # stamped as the VIN on the lower dash frame. Then in 1969 the production number took a new form and the 914/6 was included in that system as body type 3. The Karmann # on the 912 and 911 was similar to the VIN but usually slightly different; this changed in 1969 as well.
It is rather complicated so it is best to contact me directly with questions.

[JeffBowlsby]

DP

[JeffBowlsby]

Just a related side note...

I took a picture of the body tag on the Sounato GT at Rennsport.

It doesn't have a number on it, just the paint code.



"Curiouser and curiouser!" - Alice

Was the Sonauto GT yellow at some point?

@Maltese Falcon

[mate914]

My paint code tag says 849548
8th week 4th day #548?

It is a 1970

Thanks, Matt

[Gint]

@Maltese Falcon

@JeffBowlsby Fixed your member tag for Maltese Falcon Jeff. If you want to do that with user IDs that have spaces in them, you need to quote the entire user ID like so: "Maltese Falcon" You'll know if it's correct if the tag ends up in a bold font.

[76-914]

My paint code tag says 849548
8th week 4th day #548?

It is a 1970

Thanks, Matt

48th build of the day; the 5 indicates it is pre-75/76 build AFAIK. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

[mate914]

My paint code tag says 849548
8th week 4th day #548?

It is a 1970

Thanks, Matt

48th build of the day; the 5 indicates it is pre-75/76 build AFAIK. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

Thank you.

[Maltese Falcon]

Just a related side note...

I took a picture of the body tag on the Sounato GT at Rennsport.

It doesn't have a number on it, just the paint code.



"Curiouser and curiouser!" - Alice

Was the Sonauto GT yellow at some point?

@Maltese Falcon

Not sure Jeff, I don't plan to peel away the sail vinyl, etc to find out; but both cars sent to Sonauto Paris, France >> our Chassis #1020 (LM24 car) and Chassis #1017 (J. Duvall Daytona car) both arrived in light ivory. I did see some pics somewhere online of #40 in an assembly area and thought I saw a bit of red near the targa sails (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)
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[flat4guy]

not sure why mine is a low number but chassis 071953, so
7th week
1st day
karmann
pesky 5
3rd car

monday Feb 8th?
3rd car built that day?
it's a 1971

[wonkipop]

not sure why mine is a low number but chassis 071953, so
7th week
1st day
karmann
pesky 5
3rd car

monday Feb 8th?
3rd car built that day?
it's a 1971

i would say so. 3rd car for the day.
you would think they would write 03 instead of deleting the digit.
but they also did it with week at the start of the number sequence (at least for some years)
i have a 74 jan build and instead of writing 04 at the start of the number sequence its just 4.
so similarly i have a six digit production number instead of a 7 digits number.

it seems to be inconsistent.
they have chosen in your case to write 07 at the start instead of just seven.
then deleted the 0 from 04 instead.

certainly the 6 numbers fit inside the space on the plate better than 7! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

[76-914]

[76-914]

[chmillman]

Just checking in here, have now acquired a 914/4 in very good condition, and was curious about the date of manufacture...

The serial (VIN) number starts with 47429, so according to this site, it is listed as a 1974. However, according to the chassis number decoder, it was apparently manufactured in late-ish 1973. The chassis number is 4449600. As it was manufactured in 1973, I guess I take the 1973 calendar for the exact date? i.e.

44=week 44
4=Thursday
9=Karmann
600=100th car made on that day

By the 1973 calendar, Thursday in week 44 was the 1st of November.
Did I get that right?

[mate914]

Ok, I got the right number now.
1970 914-6
130641 So 13th week. 0 stands for what day? . 6 Porsche factory? 41 the number produced that day?

Thanks Matt

[SirAndy]

@chmillman
Production for a specific model year always starts during the latter half of the previous year.

In your case, since your car is a '74 model year, production for those started mid '73.
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[gms]

Ok, I got the right number now.
1970 914-6
130641 So 13th week. 0 stands for what day? . 6 Porsche factory? 41 the number produced that day?

Thanks Matt

@mate914 ,
The 914-6 has a serialized number not a combination key. You can only determine the sequence in which the cars were finished at Karmann by this number.
The VIN is the order in which they were finished at Porsche.