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Axles and CV Joints, Looking for source |
North Coast Jim |
Jun 13 2016, 12:12 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 331 Joined: 11-December 15 From: Northern Ohio Member No.: 19,450 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
After much time and expense I've thrown in the towel on rebuilding these high mileage units. Started with 4 axles and got it down to two what I thought serviceable units, actually they were what was left after inspecting the others. Trying today to assemble them has not produced anything except frustration. Watched Van Swenson U Tube posting on the subject and thought it possible. CV's cleaned and rebuilt properly and assembled on the axle. No amount of effort along with a large amount of foul language will get the C clip to stay within the groove. Arghhhhh !!!!! Tried it on two CV's with different components and the same result. Given up. So...................are there suppliers of finished 914 Axles with CJ Joints out there ??
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malcolm2 |
Jun 13 2016, 12:20 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,747 Joined: 31-May 11 From: Nashville Member No.: 13,139 Region Association: South East States |
Yes, several have done much R&D. I bought 2 CV joints from Tangerine Racing. There is another.... but the name escapes me.
http://www.tangerineracing.com/transmission.htm |
Mr. Olympic Blue 2 You |
Jun 13 2016, 01:01 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 134 Joined: 7-September 10 From: Puyallup, WA Member No.: 12,150 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Complete Oem axles are once again available from Porsche. Part # is 914.332.009.03. They are about $250 ea from Sunset Porsche in Oregon.
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Amphicar770 |
Jun 13 2016, 02:29 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,214 Joined: 20-April 10 From: PA, USA Member No.: 11,639 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Ordered mine from the Porsche dealer. Brand new and relatively inexpensive.
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theleschyouknow |
Jun 13 2016, 04:57 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 524 Joined: 4-June 13 From: Texas Member No.: 15,967 Region Association: None |
I thought I read somewhere (probably on this board) that the OEMs from a dealer (914-xxxx-xxxx-03 to replace 914-xxxx-xxx-01 and -02) use type one CVs, which, I think, does not have a machined lip/step to accommodate the gasket. I think tangerine mills this step into type 1 CVs, do those from the dealer have the same step?
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North Coast Jim |
Jun 13 2016, 07:14 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 331 Joined: 11-December 15 From: Northern Ohio Member No.: 19,450 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Complete Oem axles are once again available from Porsche. Part # is 914.332.009.03. They are about $250 ea from Sunset Porsche in Oregon. Andrew a Interesting input. Called my local Porsche dealer and got a price of $347 each. At least I now know there is an alternative, although expensive option path. I can have them in three days if I choose. Maybe I'll shop these around to the different dealers. |
iankarr |
Jun 13 2016, 09:00 PM
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The wrencher formerly known as Cuddy_K Group: Members Posts: 2,526 Joined: 22-May 15 From: Heber City, UT Member No.: 18,749 Region Association: Intermountain Region |
I got mine from Jim Ellis Porsche. $280 ea.
http://www.porscheatlantaperimeterparts.co...1433200903.html And an unboxing vid... http://youtu.be/3DGaHp-OAKo |
mepstein |
Jun 13 2016, 09:22 PM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,670 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
I thought I read somewhere (probably on this board) that the OEMs from a dealer (914-xxxx-xxxx-03 to replace 914-xxxx-xxx-01 and -02) use type one CVs, which, I think, does not have a machined lip/step to accommodate the gasket. I think tangerine mills this step into type 1 CVs, do those from the dealer have the same step? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) cjl Is that a fact or a guess? |
Mueller |
Jun 13 2016, 09:41 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 17,150 Joined: 4-January 03 From: Antioch, CA Member No.: 87 Region Association: None |
I got mine from Jim Ellis Porsche. $280 ea. http://www.porscheatlantaperimeterparts.co...1433200903.html And an unboxing vid... http://youtu.be/3DGaHp-OAKo Gave you a thumbs up! I'd have to say these are made correctly from the start and not reworked VW spec parts based on the coloring of the CVs and the feature in question. (I have a hard time thinking they would disassemble, machine, send out for black oxide and then reassemble them at that low of a price. . I know all about the machining of the type 1 since I did a few batches of Meyle CV's for a vendor here until he went with better parts and a more local source. (I still have the fixtures and 10mm drill I bought just for those (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) That being said I could be wrong (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
iankarr |
Jun 13 2016, 10:09 PM
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The wrencher formerly known as Cuddy_K Group: Members Posts: 2,526 Joined: 22-May 15 From: Heber City, UT Member No.: 18,749 Region Association: Intermountain Region |
I thought I read somewhere (probably on this board) that the OEMs from a dealer (914-xxxx-xxxx-03 to replace 914-xxxx-xxx-01 and -02) use type one CVs, which, I think, does not have a machined lip/step to accommodate the gasket. I think tangerine mills this step into type 1 CVs, do those from the dealer have the same step? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) cjl Is that a fact or a guess? The step is machined in on the new axles from Porsche. Check my unboxing vid and you'll see it when the cover comes off. |
Mueller |
Jun 13 2016, 10:12 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 17,150 Joined: 4-January 03 From: Antioch, CA Member No.: 87 Region Association: None |
I thought I read somewhere (probably on this board) that the OEMs from a dealer (914-xxxx-xxxx-03 to replace 914-xxxx-xxx-01 and -02) use type one CVs, which, I think, does not have a machined lip/step to accommodate the gasket. I think tangerine mills this step into type 1 CVs, do those from the dealer have the same step? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) cjl Is that a fact or a guess? The step is machined in on the new axles from Porsche. Check my unboxing vid and you'll see it when the cover comes off. No, he is questioning did they take an off the shelf CV joint and modify it? I say no, they gave the manufacture an engineering drawing with all the features to be made from scratch. |
Geezer914 |
Jun 13 2016, 11:46 PM
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Geezer914 Group: Members Posts: 1,803 Joined: 18-March 09 From: Salem, NJ Member No.: 10,179 Region Association: North East States |
PMB Performance.
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JoeD |
Jun 14 2016, 09:04 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 156 Joined: 19-July 15 From: Atlanta, GA Member No.: 18,973 Region Association: South East States |
I bought an OEM set from Jim Ellis in March. $280 per axle plus shipping and tax. Also got the correct schnorr washers and set of new CV bolts from them. They came greased and ready to go. Installed them last weekend; I can confirm that they are machined for the gasket, and they bolted right up.
Funny note- as I live in Atlanta, I happened to be in Jim Ellis recently to pick something up for the 911. Had a chance to chat with the parts manager there, who is a really good guy. He remembered my 914 axles coming through and expressed his surprised when he saw them... he was surprised himself that the parts were available again. |
stugray |
Jun 14 2016, 01:11 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,825 Joined: 17-September 09 From: Longmont, CO Member No.: 10,819 Region Association: None |
This place advertises $200 for each axle:
http://dcautocatalog.com/illustration/index/816066831 914.332.009.03 $200.00 Drive shaft complete, cleaned and inspected (2 recommended) In stock And the gaskets and new roll pins are right below |
mepstein |
Jun 14 2016, 02:05 PM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,670 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
This place advertises $200 for each axle: http://dcautocatalog.com/illustration/index/816066831 914.332.009.03 $200.00 Drive shaft complete, cleaned and inspected (2 recommended) In stock And the gaskets and new roll pins are right below That's his used part catalog. |
theleschyouknow |
Jun 14 2016, 02:09 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 524 Joined: 4-June 13 From: Texas Member No.: 15,967 Region Association: None |
I thought I read somewhere (probably on this board) that the OEMs from a dealer (914-xxxx-xxxx-03 to replace 914-xxxx-xxx-01 and -02) use type one CVs, which, I think, does not have a machined lip/step to accommodate the gasket. I think tangerine mills this step into type 1 CVs, do those from the dealer have the same step? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) cjl Is that a fact or a guess? The step is machined in on the new axles from Porsche. Check my unboxing vid and you'll see it when the cover comes off. Mark-neither, just a question. I'm not knowledgable enough to state many things as fact the bit about -03 to replace -01 and -02 came from a P dealer website- suncoast maybe? Cuddy-thanks for posting the vid doing a little more reading it is my understanding type 1's max angle of deflection (don't know if that's the right term almost positive it's not - there's that not enough knowledge again) is 17 degrees while the originals -type ?'s (see above) allow for 22 degrees. something about different size balls and cages can anyone comment on the 'angle of deflection' of the new units from Porsche? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) cjl |
Eric_Shea |
Jun 14 2016, 04:36 PM
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PMB Performance Group: Admin Posts: 19,289 Joined: 3-September 03 From: Salt Lake City, UT Member No.: 1,110 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Angle is proper if you use GKN/Loebro. All of the aftermarkets I've seen do not have the proper angle and, it "will" bite you in the @$$.
We're working on a new solution for the GKN/Loebro CV's which are 6-bolt. Should be pretty trick. Stay tuned. |
North Coast Jim |
Jun 15 2016, 06:01 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 331 Joined: 11-December 15 From: Northern Ohio Member No.: 19,450 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Bought a set of the newly released Porsche 91433200903 axles yesterday from Porsche North Olmsted (Ohio) for $300 each inclusive of shipping. Should have in a week max. Will keep you posted. Excellent peace of mind as the ancient axles I have are/were a concern.
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Darren C |
Jun 15 2016, 06:30 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 392 Joined: 26-December 14 From: Chichester UK Member No.: 18,255 Region Association: England |
Just bought a pair of rear axles complete with all parts from Porsche Main dealer here in UK. They were cheaper than all aftermarket suppliers I could find including some of your US ones previously mentioned (even without import taxes and shipping)
They are the correct fit, have the recess for gaskets and come with new roll pins which are real tight so give confidence on security when fitting. OEM was the best way I found for price and quality I also changed the bolt anti vibration washer/plates for peace of mind. Best bit is they have nice glossy white Porsche "Genuine Porsche Part Quality" stickers around the shiny new shafts ;-) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i265.photobucket.com-18255-1465994055.1.jpg) Just like cuddyk's :-) The reason Porsche main dealers can do them so cheap I found out when talking directly to the guys in Stuttgart who operate the Classic department when I visited them. They admitted Porsche hadn't reviewed the pricing structure for 914 parts in 20 years as it was low priority and low sales. Therefore any parts 914 specific are at 1996 prices, so go grab a deal at your main dealership while it lasts. I spent a good hour talking with the classic guy's and Porsche are really waking up to supporting older models. There's lots going on to re introduce 356 parts back to main dealers shelves as we speak and the 914 should eventually follow. But its all about supply and demand, if we as owners don't walk through the main dealer door to ask or buy parts it ain't going to happen. This is a golden opportunity to get OEM parts back in manufacture and circulation. |
ChrisFoley |
Jun 15 2016, 07:20 AM
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I am Tangerine Racing Group: Members Posts: 7,969 Joined: 29-January 03 From: Bolton, CT Member No.: 209 Region Association: None |
Good to know that Porsche has anted up with the correct assembly.
Previously we saw new axles sold by the dealer which had Type 1 CVs modified for the pin but not the gasket. If they start selling replacement CVs too I'm more than happy to stop dealing with the hassles of altering Type 1 units. |
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