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they weld it in because there is two versions.. early versus late.. handbrake recess
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Luke is correct. We carry AA passenger side inner long. It does not have the correct impressions like the original. The one from Hess is pretty nice. Aside from the fact that the depression for the ebrake is welded in after the part is stamped. I dont know why they are doing this, perhaps they were having trouble getting a nice part with that impression in the tooling to begin with. We do carry this part. The welded e-brake handle pocket I believe is an improvement in the design. We all know that area with the flex is fatigue prone to a crack over time. 1) The metal is not thinned nearly as much in the die stamping process if made in two parts . 2) Two pieces provide a termination point for fatigue. Whether intentional or not or simply ease of manufacture it works for me. |
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"I got blisters on me fingers" ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 11,005 Joined: 22-March 03 From: USofA Member No.: 453 Region Association: Pacific Northwest ![]() ![]() |
AA piece
Here is the Alternate offering (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) Note no oval holes in side, I also know from experience the F. top cutout for the heater tube protrusion is TOO SMALL, by a lot! As well as the step & stamping on the front bottom doesnt fit the floor pan contour as has been discussed (IMG:style_emoticons/default/icon8.gif) The Hess part is nice !! albeit spendy (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) |
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Just to update this. I received an email that the part has left Germany and is headed to the US. I can't wait to see it.
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Luke M |
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Look at what showed up today. Nicely made part I must say. There's several differences between the AA and the Hess part.
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Aside from the fact that the depression for the ebrake is welded in after the part is stamped. I dont know why they are doing this The original longs tend to crack at that point, maybe welding in the recess is stronger? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) |
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is the depth of the long the same?
I wonder why they left off the rear cut out? |
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that's what I do! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 20,065 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Port Hope, Ontario Member No.: 26 Region Association: Canada ![]() |
Since I went to the RD open house I'll give you my impressions.
RD is a top notch outfit. They are pumping out new dies as fast as they can, but the sheer amount of time that goes into a single die set is staggering, even with all their cool tools. Although some of their parts are small, something like the 914 trunk is carved out of not one but two 2500lbs chunks of steel. Even with the CNC mill once the it comes off the mill you are talking hundreds of hours of hand polishing. They must of have been a dozen new dies waiting to be polished. Some dies can have thousands of hours into them before it stamps a single part. Add to this the fact they also have to keep the 356 and 911 crowds happy, 914 parts alone won't keep the lights on. So they will also have to expand into other markets, in fact they already have with several BMW 2002 parts. There's more 914 parts in the pipeline, but I'll keep what I know under my hat, that's for Pete to announce when they are ready. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) |
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conclusion from the brain trust for the best long options?
Factory Having mad fab skills like McMark Mittlemotor Hess RD AA Considering most of us don’t have mad fab skills my money would be going down the Mittlemotor / Hess route (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) |
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914 Guru ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 6,580 Joined: 25-August 18 From: Woods of N. Idaho Member No.: 22,428 Region Association: Galt's Gulch ![]() ![]() |
conclusion from the brain trust for the best long options? Factory Having mad fab skills like McMark Mittlemotor Hess RD AA Considering most of us don’t have mad fab skills my money would be going down the Mittlemotor / Hess route (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) All depends on what YOU want. I'm biased. I've used both RD and AA parts on my driver quality build that has been in progress forever. Factory parts are largely NLA unless you can find someone with NOS parts and have $$ to pay the premium. Would be the way to go for 914/6 concours build IMHO. RD/AA parts are just fine for driver. However, they lack the OEM details. Doesn't matter for a driver. If you're OCD and/or concours oriented the Mittlemotor and Hess parts look nice but I'm sort of baffled by the shortness of the part. There isn't a lot of overlap between the engine long inner and the cabin long at that rear edge. Don't know why anyone would go shorter at that end? And then there is the the lack of the oval for the heater tube pass through which you'll have to cutout for yourself. Not a bid deal given the fab work invoved to be doing this work in the first place but that's another lost hour of my time to have to cut it myself. Also seems to be lacking seat belt attachment. Again, not a show stopper but more fab work for the installer. AA/RD parts are also made with Galvaneal. They ship without primer and don't surface rust easily due to the Galvaneal. Galvaneal can be a bit more difficult to weld but overall it is going to corrode more slowly than plain steel. Based on the presence of red primer on the other parts I'm going to assume they are plain steel and were primed to prevent corrostion. |
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914 Guru ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 8,108 Joined: 3-January 07 From: atlanta georgia Member No.: 7,418 Region Association: None ![]() |
Patrik Hess makes a good part.
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Luke M |
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,399 Joined: 8-February 05 From: WNY Member No.: 3,574 Region Association: North East States ![]() ![]() |
conclusion from the brain trust for the best long options? Factory Having mad fab skills like McMark Mittlemotor Hess RD AA Considering most of us don’t have mad fab skills my money would be going down the Mittlemotor / Hess route (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) Having held and inspected both the AA and Hess parts, I would go with the Hess part hands down. There's several issues with the AA part that would need to be addressed. Again up to your fab skills. I found a NOS long for my factory 6 repair. Good luck locating one and if you do be ready to drop $$$$. |
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