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> I gotta Go Wide, Should I convert my existing or start over?
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post Aug 6 2016, 07:44 PM
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It's been nearly a life long dream to have a GT. I've got an absolutely great car and with the exception of a narrow body, I'd be content. So, I'll add some more content later but the basic question is how do I go wide?



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post Aug 6 2016, 07:49 PM
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Ben, stop asking rhetorical questions.
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Obviously, there are a few options and what you end up choosing will probably be based upon your budget and time frame (and whether you can/want to do the work too). Definitely use your current car...do you have the skills, time and equipment to install flares yourself?

I have had both glass (I installed - riveted) and currently have steel - I like both but prefer the steel. The down side is that a full exterior paint is most likely necessary or at least easier when finished. Mo-money, mo time.

Glass can be installed and paint matched fairly easily. It took me about 30 hours to hand fit each panel (total time! LOL). The devils in the details to make a glass car look outstanding - fit & finish wise.

Best of luck!

PS: I do like blue..

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post Aug 6 2016, 08:10 PM
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Tony cracker, I love you man. Your dad is looking svelt.

Ben... it's just flares. You aren't seriously talking wide?
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post Aug 6 2016, 08:16 PM
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You're looking at about $1500 for flare bits, plus labor, plus a full respray, plus wide wheels, and likely a month of downtime.

Or you might score a flared chassis, in which you can build it up in your free time. Add the various parts to your liking. Then when it's done sell the 74 and at least break even, or it you get it done quick enough to catch the Porsche bubble actually make some moola.
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post Aug 6 2016, 11:58 PM
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Fiberglass with "dzus" fasteners. Unless of course your into that whole purity thing. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif)


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post Aug 7 2016, 08:00 AM
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If you have a good car, flare it. There is no reason to start over with something unknown. A good shop can match the paint. You already have five lug hubs. Find a good body guy and painter and get it done. The wheels should be an almost even swap for 7's and 8's. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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post Aug 7 2016, 08:12 AM
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Why not one of each.... narrow and a wide (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif)


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post Aug 7 2016, 08:42 AM
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Flare it as is.. Why try to sort 2 of them out. Unless you have endless time and money.
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post Aug 7 2016, 09:30 AM
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QUOTE(Reverend Troublemaker @ Aug 6 2016, 06:55 PM) *

Obviously, there are a few options and what you end up choosing will probably be based upon your budget and time frame (and whether you can/want to do the work too). Definitely use your current car...do you have the skills, time and equipment to install flares yourself?

I have had both glass (I installed - riveted) and currently have steel - I like both but prefer the steel. The down side is that a full exterior paint is most likely necessary or at least easier when finished. Mo-money, mo time.

Glass can be installed and paint matched fairly easily. It took me about 30 hours to hand fit each panel (total time! LOL). The devils in the details to make a glass car look outstanding - fit & finish wise.

Best of luck!

PS: I do like blue..

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post Aug 7 2016, 09:44 AM
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Hey Ben,

Contrary to the "I love 914-GT Flares" crowd on here, I've never personally been a fan of Porsche Racting's 1969-70 expedient & cost efficient GT solution of those blocky flares - IMHO it's not an elegant solution at all - as say compared to what Porsche did with the flared fenders for the 911 RS, 930, etc. of that era.

I'd suggest that you look at what Ethan Kuhl did on his excellent /4 to -6 conversion with a sleeker wide body look IMHO. His 914 was in Panorama last year IIRC (don't recall which), & I think he had some build pix of how he did them on here. You can PM or email him for them. I think that he'd sectioned out the fenders & welded in triangular patches, formed into a very nice extended curve flares on all 4 corners, which a competent body shop should be able to do for you.

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...=246895&hl=

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It's just another option for you to consider. BTW - it looks even better in person, & the width of the flares are much more obvious, vs. in the pic above it looks almost stock with a slightly rolled fender. I'm not sure if Ethan sold it for that 912 he was looking at a while back.

If you do go factory GT flare, then do them properly with the steel ones welded in - even if yours is a /4.

As for what you fill those flares with - I suggest that you be wary of having too much tire &/or unsprung weight on a +/- 80-110 HP /4, unless your motor has been built up with a lot more HP/TQ.

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post Aug 7 2016, 11:05 AM
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You are not THAT far from Kent...Billy did a great job on his! Get my drift? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif)

Tony

Tom T. - Although all of these type things are a matter of taste and highly subjective - what isn't is what Porsche choose to do, and how. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

I personally do not care for the subtle, non-flare but flared look...just me. I CAN, however appreciate someone else appreciating that style more. Good thoughts and ideas. Cheers!

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post Aug 7 2016, 05:12 PM
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These flares were created by slicing and adding in a bit of metal and then finishing them inside and out. I can get 9x16 Fuchs under them.

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QUOTE(db9146 @ Aug 7 2016, 07:12 PM) *

These flares were created by slicing and adding in a bit of metal and then finishing them inside and out. I can get 9x16 Fuchs under them.


If you do a search here there is a way to do this just banging it out by hanging a big purse filled with sand over the fender.
No cutting needed.
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post Aug 7 2016, 05:37 PM
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You can tell by his engine shot and his sig there is a stout 6 cyl in there. I'm sure it will handle the added flare weight just fine....


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If you do go factory GT flare, then do them properly with the steel ones welded in - even if yours is a /4.

As for what you fill those flares with - I suggest that you be wary of having too much tire &/or unsprung weight on a +/- 80-110 HP /4, unless your motor has been built up with a lot more HP/TQ.

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If you stick with Fuchs the 7 & 8's will weigh significantly less than stock steel 4 1/2 or 5 1/2 wheels.
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Nicely done.

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QUOTE(Mark Henry @ Aug 7 2016, 07:31 PM) *

QUOTE(db9146 @ Aug 7 2016, 07:12 PM) *

These flares were created by slicing and adding in a bit of metal and then finishing them inside and out. I can get 9x16 Fuchs under them.


If you do a search here there is a way to do this just banging it out by hanging a big purse filled with sand over the fender.
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That's a nice look, subtle but distinct. The wheels and tires complement the car perfectly.
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