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post Sep 16 2016, 02:10 PM
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So my dad is at a cross roads. He has had 356s,912s, 914s, 924turbos, mgs etc over the years.. He sold his 356sc about 5 years ago because he couldn't drive manual anymore and bought a boxster with a trip tronic in it.. He is now going stir crazy and is looking for a project and I ran across a 914 a friend has for a great deal and it's fairly solid.. He says he has a sporto trans for it and the actuator for it but nothing else to convert it.. The project will take my dad many years it could be a 10 year project for him.. Are there enough sporto parts out there to make the conversion happen?

Disclaimer my dad can't drive manual anymore for health reasonsso don't answer back don't do it. Budget will be low so 4k worth of parts probably makes it harder to happen for him.. I think for him it's about the dream of when he was younger.
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post Sep 16 2016, 02:18 PM
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When my dad could no longer handle a manual transmission, we found it more expedient to pick up an old Boxster with Tiptronic. 10 years is a long time for a project when he could be driving instead, plus Boxsters with Tiptronics aren't that expensive. Would a Boxster fulfill the dream?
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post Sep 16 2016, 02:24 PM
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He has a trip boxster already..he drives that he wants a project to spend his time on in retirement.. He has an 04 boxster s trip.
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post Sep 16 2016, 02:26 PM
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I don't think it's doable with that budget.

Maybe a Ghia or Bug sporto would be a more realistic option?
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post Sep 16 2016, 02:31 PM
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QUOTE(mb911 @ Sep 16 2016, 01:24 PM) *

He has a trip boxster already..he drives that he wants a project to spend his time on in retirement.. He has an 04 boxster s trip.


Well, then, the dream is about working on the car. I'm sorry that I don't have the experience to weigh in on a sportomatic conversion, but it'd be really neat to see it once done.
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post Sep 16 2016, 02:32 PM
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Buy the 914 and put the Boxster transmission in it ...
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post Sep 16 2016, 02:33 PM
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QUOTE(Ferg @ Sep 16 2016, 12:26 PM) *

I don't think it's doable with that budget.

Maybe a Ghia or Bug sporto would be a more realistic option?



I have a lead on one but I think he would much rather do the 914..

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post Sep 16 2016, 02:50 PM
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my 911 is a sport. i don't know much about them yet, but i have been told it is a 901 manual trans with a torque converter. from what i know you would need to supply oil to it in some fashion. i would think it is doable as there are allegedly one or two 914/6 sportos.
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post Sep 16 2016, 02:52 PM
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QUOTE(SirAndy @ Sep 16 2016, 01:32 PM) *

Buy the 914 and put the Boxster transmission in it ...
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I would swap the whole drivetrain and make it fun to drive!
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post Sep 16 2016, 04:45 PM
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Since the car has a sporto available with it.... Why not try..??

I'm pretty sure you need an oil tank with lines in it for transmission fluid, which should be no issue for you..
The actual shifter mechanism in the car could be the same as a 911, but the linkage
might be interesting.....
You might also need a different tail piece on the trans for the reverse position....??
Like the difference between a 911 and 914 transmission tail piece.
Can't say for sure since I haven't looked at a sportomatic transmission in a long time.....

The car was designed to hold a sporto originally...

Seeing a picture of a 914 sporto and linkage would make the decision easier..

If originality isn't an issue, there is a thread here somewhere about a 914 with an Audi automatic..
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post Sep 16 2016, 05:38 PM
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I would do the boxster tip in a 914. The sporto was a wimpy 4 speed designed for small sixes. There is nothing worse than a 4 speed on a small six. Well maybe a 4 speed with a wimpy 4 would be even worse. Lol
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post Sep 16 2016, 06:50 PM
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The car in essence would be free so that makes this even more interesting
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post Sep 16 2016, 08:51 PM
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Call AA ...they could make the budget $8K (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
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post Sep 16 2016, 09:52 PM
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The torque converter may actually help the four-speed work on a smallish engine. It does act as a torque multiplier, after all.

If you run the Sporto on a Six, then you can take advantage of all of the engineering that has been done by Porsche on the subject. Pick up a copy of the PET (official Porsche parts catalog) which should have drawings of the Sporto parts. Also dig up info on the 911 Sportos.

If you're running the Sporto on a -4, you'll have to figure out a way to pump the transmission fluid around, as well as fitting a tank for it and so on. The common dry-sump type pumps could work, but they usually foul the fan shroud so you need to do an upright conversion or find some other way of dealing with it.

Your best bet would be to find a wrecked 911 Sporto to raid for parts, but that may not be possible. And would probably bust your budget.

You might look into the early Audi FWD auto transmission; one of those has been done and seems to have worked reasonably.

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post Sep 16 2016, 10:32 PM
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I had the 4 speed tip on my 993. It was horrible. Unless you wound out every gear it was pretty gutless.
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post Sep 16 2016, 11:47 PM
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Question, I guess for Tom T... how many sporto 914s were built?
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post Sep 17 2016, 03:03 AM
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No 914 4 cyl Sporto is known to exist ....... 6 cyl, yes.
I have a NOS Sporto shift lever somewhere.
Get started
Someone here put a Audi 5000 auto in a 914
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post Sep 17 2016, 04:43 AM
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The guys a SubaruGears have a adaptor plate/flywheel to mount a type IV motor to a subaru manual transmission. The bolt pattern is the same for the automatic transmissions so the adaptor plate would work but I'm not sure what you would do about mounting the flex plate to the engine. You could email tom at SubaruGears and ask, great guy, awesome customer service. Of course you would also have to sort out the shifter.

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post Sep 17 2016, 08:12 AM
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Did a quick google search and found a few things..

Here are a couple of pictures of a 914-6 sportomatic.

Externally, the rear cover looks very similar,
so it may be the same ?????



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post Sep 17 2016, 10:02 AM
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I think it would be cool.. I don't think he is looking for speed per say but old school oil burning air cooled smells.. The Audi trans may be an option as well..
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