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| Yoei66 |
 Apr 22 2005, 11:29 AM
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My ride  Group: Members Posts: 168 Joined: 28-February 05 From: Portland, OR Member No.: 3,682  |
I drove to work today, and had a shifting problem at the end of my trip. It became hard to find the gear positions, and when in gear the stick stays very loose. I can actually wiggle it about 4 inches side to side while in gear. Could something be loose? Hopefully I can get home before totally loosing shifting ability.
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| Joe Ricard |
Apr 22 2005, 11:42 AM
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CUMONIWANNARACEU Group: Members Posts: 6,811 Joined: 5-January 03 From: Gautier, MS Member No.: 92 |
Sounds like you are losing a screw. The one at the firewall connection of the shift rod. Hopefully the hole is not stripped out. I have heard that you can helicoil the piece and be good to go again. I bit the bullet and bought new piece. $$$
What condition are all you plastic shift bushings in? might have dropped on of them out. |
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| smg914 |
Apr 22 2005, 11:48 AM
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Sahara Beige Steve Group: Members Posts: 1,965 Joined: 22-February 04 From: Tampa, FL Member No.: 1,695 Region Association: None  |
It's very possible that the shift rob bushing at the firewall just got old and dry and fell apart. Hopefully that is all it is because this is a easy fix.
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| Root_Werks |
Apr 22 2005, 11:56 AM
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Village Idiot Group: Members Posts: 8,341 Joined: 25-May 04 From: About 5NM from Canada Member No.: 2,105 Region Association: Pacific Northwest 
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Or the one back on the trans, or even the ball cup? (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/idea.gif) Both also easy and cheap fixes. Any one of those three and you should make it home no problem. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wink.gif) |
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| lapuwali |
Apr 22 2005, 12:13 PM
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Not another one! Group: Benefactors Posts: 4,526 Joined: 1-March 04 From: San Mateo, CA Member No.: 1,743  |
Hm. If it happened that quickly, I'd wonder if it were any of the bushings. The U-joint thing may have broken, or the cone screw backed out (and probably fell out and is gone), or a weld broke. In any case, you have a side-shifter, so do a search here on side-shifter repairs. The Haynes manual has a good diagram of the system (you have the "late" shifter). You'll really need to check everything. These things usually decay over time, they don't just suddenly have a problem.
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| Yoei66 |
Apr 22 2005, 12:39 PM
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My ride Group: Members Posts: 168 Joined: 28-February 05 From: Portland, OR Member No.: 3,682 |
The PO replaced the shift bushings, with a kit from PP last year. It was shifting quite accurately, till this morning. I’ve heard about the cone screw falling out on other 914’s before, and I know where it is. I’ll check this out when I get home, hopefully under my own power.
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| Yoei66 |
Apr 22 2005, 02:21 PM
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My ride Group: Members Posts: 168 Joined: 28-February 05 From: Portland, OR Member No.: 3,682 |
I pulled the boot at the firewall back, and two bushings droped out. Do these insert from the sides?
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| smg914 |
Apr 22 2005, 02:28 PM
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Sahara Beige Steve Group: Members Posts: 1,965 Joined: 22-February 04 From: Tampa, FL Member No.: 1,695 Region Association: None |
No, they install from the center (inside) of the coupler.
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| smg914 |
Apr 22 2005, 02:38 PM
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Sahara Beige Steve Group: Members Posts: 1,965 Joined: 22-February 04 From: Tampa, FL Member No.: 1,695 Region Association: None |
Here is a picture of the coupler showing the 2 bushings in place.
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| Sparky |
Apr 22 2005, 03:03 PM
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Mahna Mahna! Group: Members Posts: 1,134 Joined: 21-June 03 From: Spencer, MA Member No.: 847 |
Damn Steve thats too clean go get it dirty!!
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| Yoei66 |
Apr 22 2005, 03:18 PM
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My ride Group: Members Posts: 168 Joined: 28-February 05 From: Portland, OR Member No.: 3,682 |
OK, to get my butt home I've temporarily installed them from the outside. I have the full range of shifting again! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif)
Looking at Steve's picture, it should have been impossible for the bushings to pop out. The PO must have installed them backwards, the way I have them now. This would explain why they fell out. I'll be installing them correctly this weekend. Thanks everyone for the assistance!! Once again the 914Club forum has saved my ass! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/driving.gif) |
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| Rand |
Apr 22 2005, 03:27 PM
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Cross Member Group: Members Posts: 7,409 Joined: 8-February 05 From: OR Member No.: 3,573 Region Association: None |
Agree, looks like the flanges wouldn't let them fall out (unless they deteriorated and broke loose). The flanges were on the outside? Well at least that will keep them from falling into the middle (yeah right). (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/screwy.gif) Glad it's nothing more serious! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/clap.gif) |
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| Yoei66 |
Apr 22 2005, 03:47 PM
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My ride Group: Members Posts: 168 Joined: 28-February 05 From: Portland, OR Member No.: 3,682 |
Ha!
These things look brand new, and are urethane, I believe OEM is rubber. Not deteriorated, not even worn. These must be the shift bushings the PO told me he replaced. Hopefully my shifting improves even more, one they are installed in the correct orientation. |
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| merrill |
Apr 22 2005, 05:53 PM
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Dirt Pimp Group: Members Posts: 224 Joined: 25-January 05 From: Tahoe City, Ca Member No.: 3,505 Region Association: None |
Let us know how it works out.
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| Yoei66 |
Apr 23 2005, 09:28 PM
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My ride Group: Members Posts: 168 Joined: 28-February 05 From: Portland, OR Member No.: 3,682 |
OK, I made it home no problem, with the bushings re-installed backwards. I've put my car up on jackstands, and am working on trying to insert the bushing correctly. Anyone know how to get these flipin' things inserted? I think I understand why the PO inserted them from the outside, looks like some kind of magic trick is required to insert from the inside.
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| 9144guy |
Apr 23 2005, 09:33 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 253 Joined: 26-February 05 From: tulsa,ok Member No.: 3,672 |
if you have a vice, use a socket out of your tool box and press it in, then push the othersie in with smaller socket and a washer small id and big od
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| Yoei66 |
Apr 23 2005, 09:43 PM
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My ride Group: Members Posts: 168 Joined: 28-February 05 From: Portland, OR Member No.: 3,682 |
OK got that part. How do I remove the dowel which makes the "T" at the end of the from the inside of the casting. I don't see any set screw.
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| 9144guy |
Apr 23 2005, 09:45 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 253 Joined: 26-February 05 From: tulsa,ok Member No.: 3,672 |
punch and a hammer drive the pin through, will be tough, put bushings in the drive back in
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| Yoei66 |
Apr 23 2005, 09:59 PM
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My ride Group: Members Posts: 168 Joined: 28-February 05 From: Portland, OR Member No.: 3,682 |
Thanks 914Guy, I didn't realize that it was a press fit.
As someone has previously welded the union to the rod going back to the tranny, it looks like I'll have to remove that whole rod, before I start hammering the pin out. |
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| 9144guy |
Apr 23 2005, 10:03 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 253 Joined: 26-February 05 From: tulsa,ok Member No.: 3,672 |
yea, its common, i see it alot at work, when knocking that pin on it needs to be on something solid
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