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Reproducing the elusive rear fog light bracket., ORDER NOW! First post updated as orders come in. |
ConeDodger |
May 29 2017, 11:25 AM
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Apex killer! Group: Members Posts: 23,859 Joined: 31-December 04 From: Tahoe Area Member No.: 3,380 Region Association: Northern California |
Perhaps McMaster Carr sells a wedge washer that would work? No worries McMark & Rob. I'll make it work. I was thinking just that Rob. Just a "tip up". Thanks for the link. I was gonna put a little bead of weld on and rest the washer upon it. Didn't realize these washers existed. Thanks . If the washer works, it would probably need to be put into a drill press to redirect the hole, but might work. Mark hasn't sent me mine (or maybe ots at home and I haven't seen it yet), but this is what I'm going to try. If it works perfectly, I'll send a package to Mark to include in everyone's order. |
TJB/914 |
May 29 2017, 03:06 PM
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Mid-Engn. Group: Members Posts: 4,388 Joined: 24-February 03 From: Plymouth & Petoskey, MI Member No.: 346 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
This is the picture I'm referencing. M8 bolts, not tall enough -- assuming the PET drawing is correct. Oh and it's either bare, or silver zinc. All OEM parts should be cad plated (yellow). The rounding on the corners strikes me a non-original as well. A factory part usually doesn't have corners that round because it's harder to make the part for no benefit. Plus the factory would have die stamped these, the rounding on these corners isn't stamped, it's filed/sanded. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads/post-346-1482005961_thumb.jpg) This is the one Rob had the drawings made from. It's yellow cad, it's got M6 mounting holes, it's got 'hard' corners from stamping. But I don't like that the holes aren't completely round, or that there are sanding scratches. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads/post-3380-1494171719.jpg) Guys, The pic of my outer bracket in the photo is stainless steel and sourced from someone I can't remember who?? The outer bracket Rob has was included in an orig. Porsche Hella Fog Light pkg. that Rob got. I agree with Mark, don't do this stuff anymore:headbang: Tom |
sixnotfour |
May 29 2017, 03:29 PM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 10,698 Joined: 12-September 04 From: Life Elevated..planet UT. Member No.: 2,744 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
one bracket bolts directly to the fog light housing,, the other requires the swivel light...my guess
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TJB/914 |
May 29 2017, 03:38 PM
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Mid-Engn. Group: Members Posts: 4,388 Joined: 24-February 03 From: Plymouth & Petoskey, MI Member No.: 346 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
Guys,
The inside bracket is 100% correct since I purchased some direct from the Porsche dealer and they came from Porsche-Germany with part #'s. It was a no brainer installation since they fit on the ledge inside the trunk. The holes were drilled using the inner bracket holes. I am showing some photo's I used to locate the fog light hole location using the inner bracket (see photos of inside and outside for location). The inner bracket is Porsche correct from the factory. Tom Attached thumbnail(s) |
02loftsmoor |
May 30 2017, 06:27 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 577 Joined: 26-June 11 From: Ft. Worth TX Member No.: 13,243 Region Association: Southwest Region |
so in a nut shell these brackets are not going to work unless you cobble something up? yes or no
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McMark |
May 30 2017, 06:37 AM
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914 Freak! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,179 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
so in a nut shell these brackets are not going to work unless you cobble something up? yes or no What do you mean by work? They work, the light just points down a bit. The conversation is essentially realizing that nobody know what the rear fog light is supposed to look like. Most people who have mounted them before this group guy, using alternative mounting methods and brackets, have mounted them straight up and down (straight back). Nobody has a confirmed stock outer bracket. The mounting bracket that Rob (ConeDodger) had duplicated is the most likely candidate of any I've seen. And it's likely that it is original. But it makes the rear fog point down at an angle. So it's not really about works or doesn't work -- it's about straight back or angled down. |
02loftsmoor |
May 30 2017, 07:25 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 577 Joined: 26-June 11 From: Ft. Worth TX Member No.: 13,243 Region Association: Southwest Region |
so in a nut shell these brackets are not going to work unless you cobble something up? yes or no What do you mean by work? They work, the light just points down a bit. The conversation is essentially realizing that nobody know what the rear fog light is supposed to look like. Most people who have mounted them before this group guy, using alternative mounting methods and brackets, have mounted them straight up and down (straight back). Nobody has a confirmed stock outer bracket. The mounting bracket that Rob (ConeDodger) had duplicated is the most likely candidate of any I've seen. And it's likely that it is original. But it makes the rear fog point down at an angle. So it's not really about works or doesn't work -- it's about straight back or angled down. if it's pointing down it not going to work. I bought a useless part. unless I want cobble something up, the whole idea is a direct fit, maybe a little tweaking. |
McMark |
May 30 2017, 09:48 AM
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914 Freak! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,179 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
As I said, send it back and get your money back. Done.
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McMark |
May 30 2017, 10:06 AM
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914 Freak! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,179 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
I need someone post a picture with the lens. Without a picture, I don't know whether to pursue trying to fix it, or just issue refunds to everyone. I need someone to help me out.
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ConeDodger |
May 30 2017, 10:49 AM
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Apex killer! Group: Members Posts: 23,859 Joined: 31-December 04 From: Tahoe Area Member No.: 3,380 Region Association: Northern California |
Mark,
Mine came, along with all the WCR stuff you sent. I'll get a picture when I get back home. Did you see the wedge washer solution? |
ConeDodger |
May 30 2017, 10:53 AM
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Apex killer! Group: Members Posts: 23,859 Joined: 31-December 04 From: Tahoe Area Member No.: 3,380 Region Association: Northern California |
Better yet, I'll send you a lens!
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McMark |
May 30 2017, 10:53 AM
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914 Freak! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,179 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
Mark, Mine came, along with all the WCR stuff you sent. I'll get a picture when I get back home. Did you see the wedge washer solution? I saw the wedge washer. I don't have a lens/light, so I can't test anything. So I'm completely blind here. All I know is what people have said. It would be REALLY nice to see WTF people are talking about. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) |
McMark |
May 30 2017, 11:00 AM
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914 Freak! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,179 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
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02loftsmoor |
May 30 2017, 11:05 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 577 Joined: 26-June 11 From: Ft. Worth TX Member No.: 13,243 Region Association: Southwest Region |
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02loftsmoor |
May 30 2017, 04:15 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 577 Joined: 26-June 11 From: Ft. Worth TX Member No.: 13,243 Region Association: Southwest Region |
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jd74914 |
May 30 2017, 04:22 PM
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Its alive Group: Members Posts: 4,819 Joined: 16-February 04 From: CT Member No.: 1,659 Region Association: North East States |
Perhaps McMaster Carr sells a wedge washer that would work? No worries McMark & Rob. I'll make it work. I was thinking just that Rob. Just a "tip up". Thanks for the link. I was gonna put a little bead of weld on and rest the washer upon it. Didn't realize these washers existed. Thanks . If you search Metric Leveling Washers on McMaster there is another option, assuming you need <5 degrees of rotation. |
Larmo63 |
May 30 2017, 11:11 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,267 Joined: 3-March 14 From: San Clemente, Ca Member No.: 17,068 Region Association: Southern California |
In my original picture, the fog light (sourced from England) is bolted to the bracket and facing down at that shown angle.
It is the light/Hella kit mentioned in the thread above, chrome back. |
ConeDodger |
May 30 2017, 11:32 PM
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Apex killer! Group: Members Posts: 23,859 Joined: 31-December 04 From: Tahoe Area Member No.: 3,380 Region Association: Northern California |
As I said, send it back and get your money back. Done. don't worry about it. I didn't give that much for a raw bracket.. but instead of shimming under the light could a shim under the bracket and the body work, just tossing that out there It could, but I'd guess it would be more obvious than a shim under the light... |
ConeDodger |
May 30 2017, 11:33 PM
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Apex killer! Group: Members Posts: 23,859 Joined: 31-December 04 From: Tahoe Area Member No.: 3,380 Region Association: Northern California |
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simonjb |
May 31 2017, 01:34 PM
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KiwiMan Group: Members Posts: 563 Joined: 18-October 16 From: Stamford, Connecticut Member No.: 20,505 Region Association: North East States |
Damn - And I already purchased the wiring harness....
Oh Well.... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sheeplove.gif) |
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