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Reproducing the elusive rear fog light bracket., ORDER NOW! First post updated as orders come in. |
ConeDodger |
May 31 2017, 01:59 PM
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Apex killer! Group: Members Posts: 23,859 Joined: 31-December 04 From: Tahoe Area Member No.: 3,380 Region Association: Northern California |
Damn - And I already purchased the wiring harness.... Oh Well.... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sheeplove.gif) It looks easy enough to solve. I wouldn't worry about it yet... |
ConeDodger |
May 31 2017, 03:22 PM
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Apex killer! Group: Members Posts: 23,859 Joined: 31-December 04 From: Tahoe Area Member No.: 3,380 Region Association: Northern California |
I might have it figured out.
I think Hella "superseded" a part number. If they did, and it looks possible, the mounts are correct, the lights are wrong, sort of... If you hold the light up to the mount and then rotate it so the positioning is correct you see what I'm saying. What I'm going to try, is taking the light apart and seeing if I could re drill the hole for the mount stud and seal the old hole. Yopu tells me I definitely want to take her shopping right now or I would do it right away and take pics. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) |
Firstcar |
May 31 2017, 05:05 PM
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Obsessive amateur mechanic Group: Members Posts: 98 Joined: 17-March 11 From: MA -South Shore Member No.: 12,831 Region Association: North East States |
Brackets look fine to me - Light mounting post angle is wrong.
This link appears to be the correct light - right p/n, illustrations show correct post angle: http://www.sierramadrecollection.com/Hella...ies-p29020.html No affiliation with vender no figment guarantee, just an observation |
raynekat |
May 31 2017, 05:37 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,167 Joined: 30-December 14 From: Coeur d'Alene, Idaho Member No.: 18,263 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Brackets look fine to me - Light mounting post angle is wrong. This link appears to be the correct light - right p/n, illustrations show correct post angle: http://www.sierramadrecollection.com/Hella...ies-p29020.html No affiliation with vender no figment guarantee, just an observation This is the exact light I have and she's no good with the bracket that was fab'd up. |
Firstcar |
May 31 2017, 06:15 PM
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Obsessive amateur mechanic Group: Members Posts: 98 Joined: 17-March 11 From: MA -South Shore Member No.: 12,831 Region Association: North East States |
Ah, now I see. I was getting confused by the picture of the yellow car- that bracket looks more like a 45 degree angle. Yup, the GB bracket has a shallower angle. Sorry to add to the confusion.
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jkb944t |
Jun 1 2017, 10:40 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 464 Joined: 17-January 05 From: Canton, OH Member No.: 3,459 Region Association: None |
Does anyone have this version of the fog light?
http://www.sierramadrecollection.com/356A-...-89-p21436.html It looks like you could remove the adjustable bracket from the back of it and then the hole might be in the right location. Jeff B |
7TPorsh |
Jun 1 2017, 12:00 PM
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7T Porsh Group: Members Posts: 2,691 Joined: 27-March 06 From: Glendale Ca Member No.: 5,782 Region Association: Southern California |
Does anyone have this version of the fog light? http://www.sierramadrecollection.com/356A-...-89-p21436.html It looks like you could remove the adjustable bracket from the back of it and then the hole might be in the right location. Jeff B Is there a lens difference between the brake and fog lights? |
Larmo63 |
Jun 4 2017, 04:51 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,267 Joined: 3-March 14 From: San Clemente, Ca Member No.: 17,068 Region Association: Southern California |
Rob (ConeDodger) and I talked about the rear fog light bracket angle issues at this weekend's WCR. I came home and solved the problem using Rob's advice. I drilled out a new hole 15mm higher, (there is a round circle boss there on the inside, probably for different fitment/manufacturing) and now it fits fine. Just drop in a correct size 3/8" grommet in the old/existing hole, run your wiring out there, and you're good to go. I drilled the outside of the housing, and started with a small bit, stepping up a few times. This housing is a tough piece, it was much more difficult to get through than I would have thought.
Drilling out the back of a convex chrome light is a bit of a trick, but I did it on my bench here. Make sure you use a punch as a starter, or it's not going to happen. |
Dion |
Jun 4 2017, 04:58 PM
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RN Group: Members Posts: 2,805 Joined: 16-September 04 From: Audubon,PA Member No.: 2,766 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Nice going Lawrence. I'll give that a go.
Nice shirt btw! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) |
Larmo63 |
Jun 4 2017, 05:05 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,267 Joined: 3-March 14 From: San Clemente, Ca Member No.: 17,068 Region Association: Southern California |
If you really want to do it trick, you could offset the hole a tiny bit so that when installed, the light points perfectly perpendicular to the car. The back of a 914 has a slight curve which makes the light shine a bit askew and not exactly straight back although it is now level.
I'm just being overly pedantic in mentioning that, but I thought of it AFTER I drilled and mounted the light to the bracket. |
ConeDodger |
Jun 4 2017, 05:16 PM
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Apex killer! Group: Members Posts: 23,859 Joined: 31-December 04 From: Tahoe Area Member No.: 3,380 Region Association: Northern California |
Ah, now I see. I was getting confused by the picture of the yellow car- that bracket looks more like a 45 degree angle. Yup, the GB bracket has a shallower angle. Sorry to add to the confusion. The group buy bracket IS correct. The Hella light part number is a superseded #... |
ConeDodger |
Jun 4 2017, 05:21 PM
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Apex killer! Group: Members Posts: 23,859 Joined: 31-December 04 From: Tahoe Area Member No.: 3,380 Region Association: Northern California |
Great job Lawrence! Great meeting you this weekend too. Pity you couldn't have brought the car. It looks good in that picture!
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ConeDodger |
Jun 5 2017, 10:02 AM
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Apex killer! Group: Members Posts: 23,859 Joined: 31-December 04 From: Tahoe Area Member No.: 3,380 Region Association: Northern California |
So here is what I discussed with Lawrence and as you can see, it worked.
Here inside is a boss with the text "21W" If you center punch right in the middle of that and step-drill a hole in the same size as the other, the angle is perfect. I would then get a rubber plug for the original hole, but Lawrence's method obviously works. I would get your order in to McMark before he gets disgusted and mails the hole lot to me. He has a really low tolerance for things that keep him out of his welding helmet! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/WTF.gif) Attached thumbnail(s) |
ConeDodger |
Jun 6 2017, 10:08 AM
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Apex killer! Group: Members Posts: 23,859 Joined: 31-December 04 From: Tahoe Area Member No.: 3,380 Region Association: Northern California |
Problem solved! Get 'em!
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ConeDodger |
Jun 17 2017, 02:16 PM
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Apex killer! Group: Members Posts: 23,859 Joined: 31-December 04 From: Tahoe Area Member No.: 3,380 Region Association: Northern California |
Well, as I said, the Group Buy bracket is correct. You see above that Lawrence did the modification to the light housing as he and I discussed at WCR17. Today, I had my first chance to do it myself.
As you can see, it works perfectly. When mounted, the light will point at the right angle. Instead of step-drilling, (couldn't find my step-drill bit) I drilled a pilot hole big enough for a Dremel and opened up the hole, then I just drilled it to the proper size. Attached image(s) |
ConeDodger |
Jun 17 2017, 02:35 PM
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Apex killer! Group: Members Posts: 23,859 Joined: 31-December 04 From: Tahoe Area Member No.: 3,380 Region Association: Northern California |
And here it is mocked up. I'll mount it in a bit, Just got to get Yopu out of the garage so I have room to work. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/evilgrin.gif)
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ConeDodger |
Jun 24 2017, 11:55 AM
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Apex killer! Group: Members Posts: 23,859 Joined: 31-December 04 From: Tahoe Area Member No.: 3,380 Region Association: Northern California |
Hey guys! As you can see, the problem has been solved! Get your rear fog light mount parts while they last!
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02loftsmoor |
Jun 25 2017, 09:07 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 577 Joined: 26-June 11 From: Ft. Worth TX Member No.: 13,243 Region Association: Southwest Region |
I there any measurements on where to mount on the cars body? or is it where you want it ?
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ConeDodger |
Jun 25 2017, 09:16 AM
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Apex killer! Group: Members Posts: 23,859 Joined: 31-December 04 From: Tahoe Area Member No.: 3,380 Region Association: Northern California |
I there any measurements on where to mount on the cars body? or is it where you want it ? That depends. If Hans was working, and it was before lunch it was one measurement. If Franz was working and it was after lunch slightly different. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) Eric Shea tells me 112mm or 4.4" from the plastic edge of the outside taillight housing to the center of the outboard hole. This measurement puts our outside the hold down for our lids. Non-GT cars would be closer to the taillight. I think it is easier to use the inside as the mount rests on the lip so if you'll wait a couple days, I'll give you those measurements. I've got today and tomorrow left on my 7 day sentence at work... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
ConeDodger |
Jun 25 2017, 09:29 AM
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Apex killer! Group: Members Posts: 23,859 Joined: 31-December 04 From: Tahoe Area Member No.: 3,380 Region Association: Northern California |
I stole these from Eric's Facebook GT build pictures folder. He won't mind. It's better than me pestering him for them by text message...
See how the outside mount doesn't rest on the lip of the body? I'll get the inside measurement and post it here... Attached image(s) |
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