 My 73 Suby drivetrain conversion upgrade!, Added a quick video on page 25 |
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| JRust |
 Jan 30 2017, 11:19 PM
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914 Guru  Group: Members Posts: 6,310 Joined: 10-January 03 From: Corvallis Oregon Member No.: 129 Region Association: Pacific Northwest 
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Okay this has been a long time coming. I am finally going to pull my incredible, reliable, powerfully awesome 158 hp NA 2.5 Subaru Drivetrain. In goes my new 2.5 Subaru Turbo motor out of a 2009 Forester XT. I will be pushing 220 plus depending on if I upgrade my turbo over the stock one. Pretty sure I am sticking with stock to start. That is a pretty easy bolt on upgrade later. I have a 2004 WRX 5speed tranny to mate up to it. Will be doing a firewall engine mount connecting to a Small car motor mount. Tranny ears for the back. Using Outfront header to move the turbo around the front of the motor. Outfront Wiring harness to the Stinger ECU. Still need to figure out the intercooler but staying in the engine bay under a GT grill. More details to follow but plan to pull my old drivetrain this weekend.
Okay so plans have changed & I am going to be putting in this 2005 WRX motor with 55k on it. My 2.5 will go in eventually but my plans are to build it out a little more. Going to get a larger turbo for it & other odds & ends to push 400hp with it. So this 2.0 motor will be pushing 220 easy & looks great Attached image(s) 
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| Krieger |
Jan 30 2017, 11:55 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,766 Joined: 24-May 04 From: Santa Rosa CA Member No.: 2,104 Region Association: None
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That will be a very nice bump in power!
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| matthepcat |
Jan 31 2017, 12:03 AM
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Meat Popsicle Group: Members Posts: 1,462 Joined: 13-December 09 From: Saratoga CA Member No.: 11,125 Region Association: Northern California |
Close to 300 with just a Cobb tune and a bell mouth down pipe. About 15-16 Psi
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| mgp4591 |
Jan 31 2017, 12:17 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,501 Joined: 1-August 12 From: Salt Lake City Ut Member No.: 14,748 Region Association: Intermountain Region
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You've been thinking about this for awhile I know - great to see you finally getting to it!
I agree with Matt. The downpipe you'll need to do anyway and the Cobb Accessport is the way to go! For as often as you'll use full boost, upgrading the turbo may not be necessary where you build your exhaust around the downpipe. Just don't starve out your fuel ratio and you're good to go - congratulations! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/aktion035.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/aktion035.gif) |
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| Andyrew |
Jan 31 2017, 12:39 AM
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Spooling.... Please wait Group: Members Posts: 13,377 Joined: 20-January 03 From: Riverbank, Ca Member No.: 172 Region Association: Northern California
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What are you going to do for the intercooler?
Will it be done for the WCR? This will be fun! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
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| Front yard mechanic |
Jan 31 2017, 07:00 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,239 Joined: 23-July 15 From: New Mexico Member No.: 18,984 Region Association: None
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That is a good looking car! Worth the effort (IMG:style_emoticons/default/pray.gif)
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| 76-914 |
Jan 31 2017, 09:11 AM
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Repeat Offender & Resident Subaru Antagonist Group: Members Posts: 13,646 Joined: 23-January 09 From: Temecula, CA Member No.: 9,964 Region Association: Southern California
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I get everything your doing except starting this at the beginning of the 914 season. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) Come to think of it, I began my conversion in the Spring as well. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif)
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| A&P Mech |
Jan 31 2017, 09:21 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 401 Joined: 10-September 13 From: United States Member No.: 16,371 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Jamie, I read your add in the classifieds and it appears your offering everything that is needed for a swap except the radiator and axels. I have a set of Coldwater 914 axles that I would be willing to sell to help someone complete the conversion.
Ray |
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| Chris H. |
Jan 31 2017, 09:43 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 4,048 Joined: 2-January 03 From: Chicago 'burbs Member No.: 73 Region Association: Upper MidWest
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So you got it. Nice. Still going back and forth with that Vanagon dude (don't ask y'all...I'll post it in my Van thread if it works out (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) ).
Hey if anyone is looking for a good NA engine Jamie's has some nice upgrades. It's got extra oomph but nothing that would affect reliability at all. I talked to the PO before he sold the car just to ask what was up with it. Perfect starter engine. Jamie I'd stick with the stock turbo since it's free anyway. Then turn it up when you get used to the power and want more. What ECU are you running it with? EMS again or the stock ECU? There are a lot of solutions for the electronics. NASIOC is probably the best place for that. |
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| JRust |
Jan 31 2017, 01:12 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 6,310 Joined: 10-January 03 From: Corvallis Oregon Member No.: 129 Region Association: Pacific Northwest
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QUOTE(Andyrew @ Jan 30 2017, 10:39 PM)  What are you going to do for the intercooler? Probably rolling with the stock setup but I know jack about intercoolers. I need to look into this more than any other part of the conversion at this point (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif) Will it be done for the WCR? #Yesmabyeihopethehellso This will be fun! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Most definately (IMG:style_emoticons/default/evilgrin.gif) Thanks for the heads up on axles Ray. That would be perfect. Trying to make the conversion as easy as possible for the next person. As close to turn key as I can make it without doing the conversion for them anyway. My current drive train will be an easy conversion for someone. All of the hard work is done already. I am super psyched about finally doing the motor upgrade. It has been a long time coming for me. I plan to get the A/C setup finished with this as well. May just have to make a weekend trip down to see you Kent to do my lines. |
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| rhodyguy |
Jan 31 2017, 01:20 PM
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Chimp Sanctuary NW. Check it out. Group: Members Posts: 22,193 Joined: 2-March 03 From: Orion's Bell. The BELL! Member No.: 378 Region Association: Galt's Gulch |
I wish I had known you were going to sell the 2.5 3 months ago. I would have held on to the legacy instead of basically giving it away.
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| Andyrew |
Jan 31 2017, 01:33 PM
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Spooling.... Please wait Group: Members Posts: 13,377 Joined: 20-January 03 From: Riverbank, Ca Member No.: 172 Region Association: Northern California
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If you put an external water mister that activates on boost you should be fine with the stock intercooler for moderate boost levels.. You can also go with W/M injection post intercooler which would do a lot of good but the expense level is higher.
Or you can go with an air to water intercooler log if you plan on keeping the power at or under 300hp. Should be plenty of cooling for that power level. |
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| 914forme |
Jan 31 2017, 02:31 PM
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Times a wastin', get wrenchin'! Group: Members Posts: 3,896 Joined: 24-July 04 From: Dayton, Ohio Member No.: 2,388 Region Association: None
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Stock IC is fine even with out the mister. I would do a water to air though. Frozen Boost makes some kist for this, not sure why your limited to 300HP, just get a bigger sized unit.
It has been discussed several times thou, and well every one has done them a bit different. PorSTI uses an air to air intercooler, Scott says he gets temp creep if sitting a long time. It cools right back down once he is rolling. Spending some time in that car, I know it can move. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif) Gray Matter is a water to Air unit, we will see how that one turns out. Good luck with the build and engine sale |
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| arne |
Jan 31 2017, 02:33 PM
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Serial Rescuer of old vehicles... Group: Members Posts: 770 Joined: 31-January 17 From: Eugene, Oregon Member No.: 20,799 Region Association: None |
Starting this weekend, Jamie? I guess we won't see any 'teens at coffee in Eugene this Saturday, either. I don't think we've had any show up since that time you and your buddies drove down.
Will be interesting to watch progress in this thread. I like seeing this kind of thing when I have seen the car in person before. |
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| JRust |
Jan 31 2017, 03:02 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 6,310 Joined: 10-January 03 From: Corvallis Oregon Member No.: 129 Region Association: Pacific Northwest
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QUOTE(arne @ Jan 31 2017, 12:33 PM) Starting this weekend, Jamie? I guess we won't see any 'teens at coffee in Eugene this Saturday, either. I don't think we've had any show up since that time you and your buddies drove down. Will be interesting to watch progress in this thread. I like seeing this kind of thing when I have seen the car in person before. When is it Arne? I might be up for coming down before I tear into it. I wanted to do a video of it running & driving anyway. |
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| arne |
Jan 31 2017, 03:49 PM
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Serial Rescuer of old vehicles... Group: Members Posts: 770 Joined: 31-January 17 From: Eugene, Oregon Member No.: 20,799 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(JRust @ Jan 31 2017, 01:02 PM) QUOTE(arne @ Jan 31 2017, 12:33 PM) Starting this weekend, Jamie? I guess we won't see any 'teens at coffee in Eugene this Saturday, either. I don't think we've had any show up since that time you and your buddies drove down. Will be interesting to watch progress in this thread. I like seeing this kind of thing when I have seen the car in person before. When is it Arne? I might be up for coming down before I tear into it. I wanted to do a video of it running & driving anyway. 10:00 Saturday, same location as before. Means you wouldn't be able to start the drop until after lunch. Love to see you and the car again, though. And I'd also like to pick your brain a bit as I get ready to start my own 914 project in a few weeks. |
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| JRust |
Jan 31 2017, 08:41 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 6,310 Joined: 10-January 03 From: Corvallis Oregon Member No.: 129 Region Association: Pacific Northwest
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QUOTE(arne @ Jan 31 2017, 01:49 PM) 10:00 Saturday, same location as before. Means you wouldn't be able to start the drop until after lunch. Love to see you and the car again, though. And I'd also like to pick your brain a bit as I get ready to start my own 914 project in a few weeks. I'll drive down as long as the weather is decent. I added a few video's of a quick drive tonight to my classifieds add. I'll make a better one on saturday but wanted to get something up. |
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| Andyrew |
Jan 31 2017, 08:57 PM
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Spooling.... Please wait Group: Members Posts: 13,377 Joined: 20-January 03 From: Riverbank, Ca Member No.: 172 Region Association: Northern California
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You should do some performance runs. 20-60, 40-80 ect. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
Torque app on your phone will do it just on location alone if you dont have an obd port. |
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| JRust |
Jan 31 2017, 09:05 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 6,310 Joined: 10-January 03 From: Corvallis Oregon Member No.: 129 Region Association: Pacific Northwest
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QUOTE(Andyrew @ Jan 31 2017, 06:57 PM) You should do some performance runs. 20-60, 40-80 ect. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Torque app on your phone will do it just on location alone if you dont have an obd port. Good plan. Actually my speed hut gauge will do a 0-60 come to think of it. I need to look up how to do that. Only know that because Ray mentioned they do it. LOL didn't even know my gauges had the capability |
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| 76-914 |
Feb 1 2017, 09:51 AM
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Repeat Offender & Resident Subaru Antagonist Group: Members Posts: 13,646 Joined: 23-January 09 From: Temecula, CA Member No.: 9,964 Region Association: Southern California
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QUOTE(JRust @ Jan 31 2017, 07:05 PM) QUOTE(Andyrew @ Jan 31 2017, 06:57 PM) You should do some performance runs. 20-60, 40-80 ect. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Torque app on your phone will do it just on location alone if you dont have an obd port. Good plan. Actually my speed hut gauge will do a 0-60 come to think of it. I need to look up how to do that. Only know that because Ray mentioned they do it. LOL didn't even know my gauges had the capability Push the little black knob on the face until it reads 0-60 time. It will start automatically as soon as you take off. Check out your fastest recorded speed while your in there. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) |
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