 My 73 Suby drivetrain conversion upgrade!, Added a quick video on page 25 |
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| JRust |
 Oct 11 2019, 07:51 PM
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914 Guru  Group: Members Posts: 6,310 Joined: 10-January 03 From: Corvallis Oregon Member No.: 129 Region Association: Pacific Northwest 
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Okay here is a kinda short pull. Which ends with my tranny breaking. My luck continues
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| Andyrew |
Oct 11 2019, 08:16 PM
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Spooling.... Please wait Group: Members Posts: 13,377 Joined: 20-January 03 From: Riverbank, Ca Member No.: 172 Region Association: Northern California
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QUOTE(JRust @ Oct 11 2019, 06:51 PM)  (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) Looks like something else was going on before the trans locked up.... Did the motor lock up? |
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| 76-914 |
Oct 11 2019, 08:43 PM
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Repeat Offender & Resident Subaru Antagonist Group: Members Posts: 13,646 Joined: 23-January 09 From: Temecula, CA Member No.: 9,964 Region Association: Southern California
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The run up sounded good Jamie. Is the transmission, clutch, etc. stock? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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| PanelBilly |
Oct 11 2019, 08:54 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,863 Joined: 23-July 06 From: Kent, Wa Member No.: 6,488 Region Association: Pacific Northwest
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Don’t leave us hanging. This is like an episode from Dallas.
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| JRust |
Oct 11 2019, 09:29 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 6,310 Joined: 10-January 03 From: Corvallis Oregon Member No.: 129 Region Association: Pacific Northwest
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QUOTE(Andyrew @ Oct 11 2019, 07:16 PM) QUOTE(JRust @ Oct 11 2019, 06:51 PM) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) Looks like something else was going on before the trans locked up.... Did the motor lock up? I don't think so on the motor. The tranny is bound up good. Even trying to shift it from the back end on the rod couldn't budge it. They will pull it Monday. If it did something to the motor as well. I will phucking lose it |
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| Chris H. |
Oct 12 2019, 10:24 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 4,049 Joined: 2-January 03 From: Chicago 'burbs Member No.: 73 Region Association: Upper MidWest
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Holy hell man...
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| Robarabian |
Oct 12 2019, 11:24 AM
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914 A Roo Group: Members Posts: 653 Joined: 11-February 19 From: Simi Valley, Kalifornia Member No.: 22,865 Region Association: Southern California
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Stay positive man.. you're in it to win it!
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| JRust |
Oct 12 2019, 11:36 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 6,310 Joined: 10-January 03 From: Corvallis Oregon Member No.: 129 Region Association: Pacific Northwest
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Looking for an 04 forester XT tranny. The 4.11 gearing will work much better for my setup. Though my freeway cruising will be. a bit high on the rpm. Still looking through tranny stuff. Also going to do the limited slip while I am doing it
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| Chris H. |
Oct 12 2019, 09:11 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 4,049 Joined: 2-January 03 From: Chicago 'burbs Member No.: 73 Region Association: Upper MidWest
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Saw this one in the classifieds on NASIOC. No affiliation at all so I can't vouch for it. From a 2005 Legacy GT but it's a 4:11
Link to Subaru Trans There are a couple of other ones on there that don't say what year. There is an 04 XT trans ad but it sold YESTERDAY. You could also do a WTB ad...there's a separate section for it. I keep watching your video to try and understand what happened. Does the clutch operate OK, as in does the clutch arm move at the trans when you push the clutch pedal in? |
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| JRust |
Oct 12 2019, 11:16 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 6,310 Joined: 10-January 03 From: Corvallis Oregon Member No.: 129 Region Association: Pacific Northwest
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QUOTE(Chris H. @ Oct 12 2019, 08:11 PM) There are a couple of other ones on there that don't say what year. There is an 04 XT trans ad but it sold YESTERDAY. You could also do a WTB ad...there's a separate section for it. I keep watching your video to try and understand what happened. Does the clutch operate OK, as in does the clutch arm move at the trans when you push the clutch pedal in? I think the drive he recommended was actually the 4.44 in that tranny. Still the 4:11 is better than what I have. So that might be a good option. I replied to the post but couldn't PM the guy because his box is full. On my car I don't know on the clutch. I was just to pissed off & dejected to look at much of anything. I should be able to get some more info on Monday when they pull the tranny. |
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| Chris H. |
Oct 13 2019, 08:26 AM
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QUOTE(JRust @ Oct 13 2019, 12:16 AM) I think the drive he recommended was actually the 4.44 in that tranny. Still the 4:11 is better than what I have. So that might be a good option. I replied to the post but couldn't PM the guy because his box is full. On my car I don't know on the clutch. I was just to pissed off & dejected to look at much of anything. I should be able to get some more info on Monday when they pull the tranny. Yeah that thing is fighting you every step of the way. You'll eventually tame that beast! |
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| 76-914 |
Oct 13 2019, 12:48 PM
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(IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif) Enough with the "Cliff Hanger's" Jamie. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) What were the torque numbers at the time it seized? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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| JRust |
Oct 13 2019, 01:34 PM
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QUOTE(76-914 @ Oct 13 2019, 11:48 AM) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif) Enough with the "Cliff Hanger's" Jamie. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) What were the torque numbers at the time it seized? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) I didn't get any of that. Was just getting to the point of really cranking things up. Was still at 10lbs of boost. I think I'll be in the 18lbs of boost when it's all said & done. |
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| 914forme |
Oct 14 2019, 01:06 PM
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Times a wastin', get wrenchin'! Group: Members Posts: 3,896 Joined: 24-July 04 From: Dayton, Ohio Member No.: 2,388 Region Association: None
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(IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) 18 PSI you gas guys crack me up. I start to worry when my diesels crank out 45-50 psi. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)
Jamie, I am sorry about the car, you have not caught a break yet. Hoping for the best expecting bits and pieces of the worst. BTW, check you CV joints they took a hammering on that sudden stop. Mass of the rollers, and the sudden lack of movement, I would expect the outer CVs to not have much left in them if they did not crack a cage. I am a sick-o and lots of people speculate, I would love to see carnage pictures, I know it is hard to do, yet it will help us understand the forces these see, and maybe that the 2WD version we build still has issues. Hopefully you don't find that your spool exploded or backed off the shaft with a nut jammed between a couple of gears. Hard to say until it is opened up. |
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| pploco |
Oct 14 2019, 01:19 PM
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Chief Toilet Flusher Group: Members Posts: 105 Joined: 15-June 18 From: boise, idaho Member No.: 22,225 Region Association: Rocky Mountains
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I'm not sure what gear it was in but at about the :18 second mark you can definitely hear the trans start making funny noises.
So sorry man, that's gotta be damn frustrating. I've seen lots of transmissions on the Facebook PNW Subaru Owners group - I'll keep my eyes open. |
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| Andyrew |
Oct 14 2019, 01:44 PM
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Spooling.... Please wait Group: Members Posts: 13,377 Joined: 20-January 03 From: Riverbank, Ca Member No.: 172 Region Association: Northern California
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QUOTE(914forme @ Oct 14 2019, 12:06 PM) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) 18 PSI you gas guys crack me up. I start to worry when my diesels crank out 45-50 psi. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) I plan to run about 35psi on the upper end on my setup... But thats a built motor... The diesels are also built for such a thing... Jamie, I forget, is this a new trans to the setup?? What trans did you used to run? |
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| 76-914 |
Oct 14 2019, 07:54 PM
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Repeat Offender & Resident Subaru Antagonist Group: Members Posts: 13,646 Joined: 23-January 09 From: Temecula, CA Member No.: 9,964 Region Association: Southern California
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That trans wasn't kicked that hard. When the 2 wheel conversion was done was it welded or was the nut cranked down. If the latter, I wonder if that nut could have dropped and locked up that tranny? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif)
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| Andyrew |
Oct 14 2019, 08:24 PM
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Spooling.... Please wait Group: Members Posts: 13,377 Joined: 20-January 03 From: Riverbank, Ca Member No.: 172 Region Association: Northern California
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QUOTE(76-914 @ Oct 14 2019, 06:54 PM) That trans wasn't kicked that hard. When the 2 wheel conversion was done was it welded or was the nut cranked down. If the latter, I wonder if that nut could have dropped and locked up that tranny? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif) I'm wondering the same thing. That's pretty much the only thing that gets modified in the internals and that's one serious failure. I bet you could remove the tail cover and get to the bottom of the issue really quick! |
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| JRust |
Oct 14 2019, 08:30 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 6,310 Joined: 10-January 03 From: Corvallis Oregon Member No.: 129 Region Association: Pacific Northwest
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The tranny I ran in my previous suby conversion was a like a 99 forester 5speed.
The tranny I had for this conversion was a 2002 WRX 5mt. It was a CL buy & I had no info on it. Seemed to go through all the gears fine. Had a bit of metal shavings on the drain plug but what used suby trans doesn't. I had another trans as well but it is locked in gear. I didn't do anything but remove the rear diff for the locking spool. I am buying a JDM transmission from a forester XT with the 4.44 gears. I'm also going to get a Limited slip put in. I doubt the locking spool backed itself off but I suppose it's possible. I put that on myself so it should be good (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) . I will check the CV's out. The new tranny is coming with some as well. So I can just swap those in or get some new ones. Haven't looked into upgraded suby cv's. I didn't get down to the shop today. I will go down tomorrow |
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| sixnotfour |
Oct 14 2019, 08:33 PM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 10,671 Joined: 12-September 04 From: Life Elevated..planet UT. Member No.: 2,744 Region Association: Rocky Mountains 
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cliff hanger...hoping for the best for you Man..its been a road well traveled..Best of Luck tomorrow... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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