1.7 rockers with swivel foot?, Opinions needed from those who have done the modification... |
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1.7 rockers with swivel foot?, Opinions needed from those who have done the modification... |
mtndawg |
Feb 5 2017, 12:28 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 414 Joined: 26-January 09 From: Granite Bay, Ca Member No.: 9,985 Region Association: None |
I currently have pauter rockers on my 2.0 L motor that I acquired. I'm considering going back to stock rockers or doing the 1.7 modification to the swivel foot. What is the benefit of using the 1.7?
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76-914 |
Feb 5 2017, 02:24 PM
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Repeat Offender & Resident Subaru Antagonist Group: Members Posts: 13,647 Joined: 23-January 09 From: Temecula, CA Member No.: 9,964 Region Association: Southern California |
Performance. They need to be taken down .060" and you need the spacers as they are offset differently but they can rev pretty high w/0 those spring spacers. Jake/Type 4 Store used to have the kit. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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RenoRoger |
Feb 5 2017, 03:10 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 95 Joined: 11-November 10 From: Reno, NV Member No.: 12,370 Region Association: Northern California |
I currently have pauter rockers on my 2.0 L motor that I acquired. I'm considering going back to stock rockers or doing the 1.7 modification to the swivel foot. What is the benefit of using the 1.7? I bought a VW Beetle engine with swivel foot rockers. Two of them failed within 5.000 miles. They were junk. I went back to originals. |
Montreal914 |
Feb 5 2017, 03:30 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,725 Joined: 8-August 10 From: Claremont, CA Member No.: 12,023 Region Association: Southern California |
I currently have pauter rockers on my 2.0 L motor that I acquired. I'm considering going back to stock rockers or doing the 1.7 modification to the swivel foot. What is the benefit of using the 1.7? I bought a VW Beetle engine with swivel foot rockers. Two of them failed within 5.000 miles. They were junk. I went back to originals. That is because they were cheap chinese parts. Use original 911 swivel. |
TheCabinetmaker |
Feb 5 2017, 03:39 PM
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I drive my car everyday Group: Members Posts: 8,325 Joined: 8-May 03 From: Tulsa, Ok. Member No.: 666 |
^ (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) I have real 912 adjusters. Over 60k. No problems
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Mark Henry |
Feb 5 2017, 05:25 PM
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that's what I do! Group: Members Posts: 20,065 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Port Hope, Ontario Member No.: 26 Region Association: Canada |
The reason for using them is they are needed on Stainless Steel valves, because the stem face is so soft the stock adjuster will mushroom the the valve stem/face.
Even a stockish engine with a carb cam or SS valves should have them. They are not needed on a bone stock engine with factory valves. I currently have pauter rockers on my 2.0 L motor that I acquired. I'm considering going back to stock rockers or doing the 1.7 modification to the swivel foot. What is the benefit of using the 1.7? I bought a VW Beetle engine with swivel foot rockers. Two of them failed within 5.000 miles. They were junk. I went back to originals. That is because they were cheap chinese parts. Use original 911 swivel. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) The china swivel feet are junk, so are the ford copy swivel ball (used on T1's) adjusters. Gene Berg used to have good swivel foot copies, but I don't know if they sell them any more. The best are the real 911 adjusters, but new they are not cheap for a set of 8. I don't care for the Paulter rockers, in my book they have very poorly designed oiling. |
malcolm2 |
Feb 5 2017, 05:39 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,747 Joined: 31-May 11 From: Nashville Member No.: 13,139 Region Association: South East States |
mine are 911 swivel feet. Came with my Cam from TIV store. pushing 30K miles.
the push rods spin during operation, I am sure the lifters do too, so the swivel foot spins too, not sure if it swivels, but I bet a nickel it spins. Increasing life of all the components. IIRC you need 1.7 rockers so the swivel foot adjusters fit. I also have Chromoly pushrods that need zero lash. to check the lash, I make sure the swivel foot spins and I can't get a gauge in. |
ottox914 |
Feb 5 2017, 10:41 PM
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The glory that once was. Group: Members Posts: 1,302 Joined: 15-December 03 From: Mahtomedi, MN Member No.: 1,438 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
The Porsche ones are going to be hella expensive, but better than throwing a motor away with cheep knock offs. I've built a couple motors and use the 911 ones every tine. Have had zero concerns or problems.
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bretth |
Feb 5 2017, 11:13 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 899 Joined: 23-June 15 From: Central TX Member No.: 18,882 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Back in 2000 I put swivel ball adjusters on my 68 Bus. Don't remember paying much then. 60,000 miles on them without issue. Back then I probably got them from Rocky Mountain Motor Works (Ecklers now?) Wish i knew if the same ones were still made now.
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Dave_Darling |
Feb 5 2017, 11:48 PM
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914 Idiot Group: Members Posts: 15,063 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Silicon Valley / Kailua-Kona Member No.: 121 Region Association: Northern California |
The reason you use 1.7 rockers is that the 1.8 and the 2.0 ones use larger-diameter adjusters. And so the holes in the rocker arms are too big for the 911 adjusters.
(I'm not sure about the 73 cars; I think the 1.7s may use the early-type rockers and the 2.0s may use the late-type, but I'm not certain of that.) --DD |
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