Is it just me...or have sixes climbed off the charts, nuts... Options

[Andyrew]

I think were going to see more subaru -6 engine conversions in the future. 30k? Geez... I could buy a nice conversion car and an old 50-60's wagon to flat tow it with for that much...

[Big Len]

Here's a 2.7 that doesn't have a lot of info, but cheap.
https://hudsonvalley.craigslist.org/pts/6031366735.html

[Unobtanium-inc]

Here's a 2.7 that doesn't have a lot of info, but cheap.
https://hudsonvalley.craigslist.org/pts/6031366735.html

That's not cheap for a 2.7, I wish they were worth $5000, I've got a bunch.

[porschetub]

Payed 1500 for my 2.2t engine 18yrs ago from my friends shop,it had been in a VW bus complete with custom adaptor flywheel that ran a 200mm HD clutch.
I remember having to borrow the cash,next day he was offered 2500 by a 911 owner....luck came my way as I got the money to him in time.
I guess we have the 911 hotrod craze to thank for engine prices atleast for the larger engines,you see more cars for sale as rollers for than reason too.
The last of the aircooled cars (964 993) have risen steeply in price as many purist 911 guys never excepted a watercooled 911.
The cost of rebuilding them has risen also ,I remember the times when you could buy a Mahle barrel/piston kit for a modest price,seen a few NOS kits on ebay for crazy $$$,these are a complex engine to rebuild so labour costs for machining and assembly amount to a big chuck of the cost these days.
My advice to anyone looking @ a motor for a good price is grab it now even if you dry store it for a while ,the PO of my car offered me his sorted European 3.0 for 5K 2.5years ago and sold it recently for 12.5K on our countries biggest auction site.

[rgalla9146]

I'm just waiting for the 2.7's to come up in price, I have a boatload of those. Right now there are just good for engine rodeo riding, I prefer the carbed ones for the rodeo, more to grab onto.

......that's a 2.2

[mb911]

The parts are crazy expensive that's the issue. I have 5k in parts alone in my 2.4 rebuild and I buy most of my stuff at wholesale. I could buy a pretty awesome gm ls engine for that money. Look at how much just fan housings are. 300-800 most times and people send me theirs for repairs which a few years ago was unheard of.

[Unobtanium-inc]

I'm just waiting for the 2.7's to come up in price, I have a boatload of those. Right now there are just good for engine rodeo riding, I prefer the carbed ones for the rodeo, more to grab onto.

......that's a 2.2

Indeed, which is why I said I prefer the carbed ones for the rodeo, more coffee Rory, get some more coffee.

[Mark Henry]

The parts are crazy expensive that's the issue. I have 5k in parts alone in my 2.4 rebuild and I buy most of my stuff at wholesale. I could buy a pretty awesome gm ls engine for that money. Look at how much just fan housings are. 300-800 most times and people send me theirs for repairs which a few years ago was unheard of.

My 3.0 I have over $10K in parts alone. Plus $2k for the core.
More if you factor in my NIB custom RS Mahle pistons and LN replated OE cylinders, in total I paid $2500, I could easily sell the set for $5K now.

That doesn't count the /6 conversion parts. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

[EdwardBlume]

The parts are crazy expensive that's the issue. I have 5k in parts alone in my 2.4 rebuild and I buy most of my stuff at wholesale. I could buy a pretty awesome gm ls engine for that money. Look at how much just fan housings are. 300-800 most times and people send me theirs for repairs which a few years ago was unheard of.

My 3.0 I have over $10K in parts alone. Plus $2k for the core.
More if you factor in my NIB custom RS Mahle pistons and LN replated OE cylinders, in total I paid $2500, I could easily sell the set for $5K now.

That doesn't count the /6 conversion parts. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

That's why if you take the trouble to build it, you keep it.

[mepstein]

Now that Ben is doing big engine heat exchangers, I decided my flaired car needs a 3.6. So now its time to hunt down a good running '95 - 993 engine. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif)

[pete-stevers]

Well I have some of my 3.0 left..It was all apart the day of the fire, so when the firemen came....the parts where blown all over by the water from the hoses and buried in ash. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) So I will have to piece it all back together...

[mepstein]

Here's a 2.7 that doesn't have a lot of info, but cheap.
https://hudsonvalley.craigslist.org/pts/6031366735.html

That's not cheap for a 2.7, I wish they were worth $5000, I've got a bunch.

I usually get $3500 retail or $3K wholesale for a complete 2.7 that needs a rebuild.

[Coondog]

Here's a 2.7 that doesn't have a lot of info, but cheap.
https://hudsonvalley.craigslist.org/pts/6031366735.html

That's not cheap for a 2.7, I wish they were worth $5000, I've got a bunch.

I usually get $3500 retail or $3K wholesale for a complete 2.7 that needs a rebuild.

Time for a price increase (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

[Unobtanium-inc]

Here's a 2.7 that doesn't have a lot of info, but cheap.
https://hudsonvalley.craigslist.org/pts/6031366735.html

That's not cheap for a 2.7, I wish they were worth $5000, I've got a bunch.

I usually get $3500 retail or $3K wholesale for a complete 2.7 that needs a rebuild.

That's more like what I see actually sell on the open market. The 2.7 is just the step child motor, not early enough for a long hood, and not big enough for a big 911. If set-up and re-built correct it's a great motor, but the reputation from new was soiled, head studs, etc. so it's hard to get good money for them. There are just too many of them around. Now that people are actually restoring mid-70s cars there will probably be a gradual increase in prices, that's what I'm banking on at least. Of course I thought with 914-6's being worth six digits now people would want an original 6 motor, I have two, but so far no one really seems to care. Luckily, like Mick Jagger, time, time, time, is on my side, yes it is.

[pete-stevers]

One way of looking at it is if you are sitting on parts or complete engines it is currency... unless you are a hoarder...In which case your wife will benefit when you kick off

[JmuRiz]

This is one of the reasons I am going to go with a bigger 4 (2.3). I mean, my mechanic told me that for everything you need to do to convert over to a 6 now, it pretty much would START around 30K

Bigger /4 is where the smart money is. Best bang for the buck is a Original Customs 2056 with FI, a 2270 is also super nice for the money.

Hind-sight would have made that a better option for me, but once I had the /6 mount and oil tank holes cut there was/is no turning back. Just try not to think too much about the money being spent (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

[mepstein]

One way of looking at it is if you are sitting on parts or complete engines it is currency... unless you are a hoarder...In which case your wife will benefit when you kick off

My wife assured me that other than running cars, it will all be given away or thrown in a dumpster. I better get to it.

[Mark Henry]

This is one of the reasons I am going to go with a bigger 4 (2.3). I mean, my mechanic told me that for everything you need to do to convert over to a 6 now, it pretty much would START around 30K

Bigger /4 is where the smart money is. Best bang for the buck is a Original Customs 2056 with FI, a 2270 is also super nice for the money.

Hind-sight would have made that a better option for me, but once I had the /6 mount and oil tank holes cut there was/is no turning back. Just try not to think too much about the money being spent (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

A 2270 is cheaper, but you're limited to about 150hp, done right I'd say $6K in parts, 2.7 with nickies 180hp with a quality exhaust and carbs $12K+ in parts alone. Add FI and the price just went up again.

Stroker cranks for the T4 are a questionable factor, good welded cranks aren't as good as they used to be and the chinese cranks I consider disposable after about 40k miles.