914 2.0 > 3.0 GT Conversion, On the road! |
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914 2.0 > 3.0 GT Conversion, On the road! |
defianty |
Mar 29 2018, 11:05 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 659 Joined: 9-August 06 From: Essex, UK Member No.: 6,621 Region Association: None |
Have you ever thought of something you wanted and then after a bit of research realised no one really offers that service and if they did the cost would be ridiculous? I do often and usually you forget about the idea, but occasionally you realise you know the right people and maybe you could make it happen. Well this is one of those instances when I had a very good friend in exactly the right place.
With the build being more of a Hot Rod, I guess, rather than an exact replica GT I wanted a badge to reflect that. Now I’m not the first person to make a custom 914-GT badge but I wanted a hand in making my own - just as I’ve done with the car itself. So a while back I drew this using my original 914 badge as a template. All measured out perfectly from the original. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/s6.postimg.org-6621-1522343139.1.png) That was simple enough, now it needed to be turned into a file that a CNC mill could read - so the following was created in Solidworks. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/s6.postimg.org-6621-1522343140.2.jpg) A quick 3D render. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/s6.postimg.org-6621-1522343141.3.png) Now I don’t have a CNC mill at home but I have a friend who owns a surgical instruments manufacturing company. Now was the time to take advantage of that (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) After a while a was presented with this billet of stainless steel and my badge had come to life. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/s6.postimg.org-6621-1522343141.4.jpg) This is the machine that was used to cut the badge from the billet. It uses a process called Wire Erosion. I'd never heard of this process before and found it quite fascinating. It's process actually takes place with everything totally submerged in distilled water. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/s6.postimg.org-6621-1522343142.5.jpg) The next step was back with me to clean them up, polish them and add the engraved detail between the digits as per the original badges. The first step was to get rid of the machine marks. This was done on a granite block with increasing grades of sandpaper. I won’t speak about how long this process took - let’s just say I won’t be doing it again (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/s6.postimg.org-6621-1522343142.6.jpg) The next step was to add the texture detail and then polish. I did these processes at the same time so these photos are a bit mixed. Polishing (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/s6.postimg.org-6621-1522343143.7.jpg) Engraving (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/s6.postimg.org-6621-1522343143.8.jpg) This shot shows the difference from the machined original. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/s6.postimg.org-6621-1522343144.9.jpg) Instead of cleaning them all myself I sent them back to my friend to be ultrasonically cleaned. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/s6.postimg.org-6621-1522343145.10.jpg) I couldn’t decide what colour finish I wanted for my car so being greedy I elected for one of each colour that the 914 would of had over its production. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) So one would be silver so I left one uncoated as I had already, Black as the original plastic badge that was on my 73 and Gold as the early cars. The process used to coat the badges was PVD (Physical Vapour Deposition). The black was Nitron MC coated and the gold, Titanium Nitride. Here’s the samples of the black and gold. The sample are a matt finish as the base metal was media blasted. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/s6.postimg.org-6621-1522343145.11.jpg) Today I got word that the badges were ready to collect…. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/s6.postimg.org-6621-1522343146.12.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/s6.postimg.org-6621-1522343146.13.jpg) You could say I was rather pleased with them. Huge thanks goes to my friend for doing these for me and swallowing the entire cost. I could not have done this without his help. Cheers Jay. This is certainly a process I won’t be repeating and these are certainly one offs! I do however have one spare Gold one and if anyone’s interested I’ve decided to auction it off with 100% of the top bid going to charity, DDK Macmillan of course. I'll send out more information about the auction soon when I work out the best way to do it. |
tygaboy |
Mar 29 2018, 11:36 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,501 Joined: 6-October 15 From: Petaluma, CA Member No.: 19,241 Region Association: Northern California |
As the Most Interesting Man in the World might say:
I don't usually use curse words in my posts, but when I do, they are: Get the fuck out of here! I love how so many of us seem to have friends with crazy jobs and how often we can talk them into helping with our wonderful little cars. Thanks for posting... that is so f-ing cool! |
mepstein |
Mar 29 2018, 11:40 AM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,730 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Awesome!
The earlySregistry has a thread labeled - Show me satanic details. http://www.early911sregistry.org/forums/sh...ghlight=satanic I thought we should start a similar thread. This certainly qualifies as one. |
pete000 |
Mar 29 2018, 11:47 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,886 Joined: 23-August 10 From: Bradenton Florida Member No.: 12,094 Region Association: South East States |
You should have 914 Rubber make a mold and make plastic ones. Your metal master is perfect.
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bbrock |
Mar 29 2018, 12:01 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,269 Joined: 17-February 17 From: Montana Member No.: 20,845 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
As the Most Interesting Man in the World might say: I don't usually use curse words in my posts, but when I do, they are: Get the fuck out of here! I love how so many of us seem to have friends with crazy jobs and how often we can talk them into helping with our wonderful little cars. Thanks for posting... that is so f-ing cool! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif) I'll ask the same question I asked Ben, did you play this music while they were being made? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vu2T85LNlrQ Love the satanic details idea and agree this qualifies. To repeat - f-ing cool! |
defianty |
Mar 29 2018, 12:34 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 659 Joined: 9-August 06 From: Essex, UK Member No.: 6,621 Region Association: None |
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif) I'll ask the same question I asked Ben, did you play this music while they were being made? I didn't but I wish I had! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif) |
mb911 |
Mar 29 2018, 03:30 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 7,473 Joined: 2-January 09 From: Burlington wi Member No.: 9,892 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
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defianty |
Mar 29 2018, 04:02 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 659 Joined: 9-August 06 From: Essex, UK Member No.: 6,621 Region Association: None |
Yeah I think they're one and the same thing Ben, just different names as you say.
Love the crest! |
jd74914 |
Mar 29 2018, 05:20 PM
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Its alive Group: Members Posts: 4,834 Joined: 16-February 04 From: CT Member No.: 1,659 Region Association: North East States |
Very cool! Especially cutting it off the block with EDM. I was wondering how you were going to get it off when I saw the big block and was thinking it'd be a white knuckle bandsaw cut. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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Phil Plummer |
Mar 30 2018, 01:35 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 120 Joined: 7-January 12 From: Edmonton Ab Canada Member No.: 13,973 Region Association: Canada |
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif) Hello: Im going to have to drop out my 3.0 911 engine out of the 914 /6 conversion run great etc but i didnt have tin i havent driven the car but felt with a good oil cooling system and exhaust wrap id have the engine oil cool enough. So i bought tin out of Porsche restoration design and would like to know where one can get hardware and or instruction to install tin or do I have to Fabricate the harware?
If anyone knows pls help. Regards Phil Plummer |
Cairo94507 |
Mar 30 2018, 02:19 PM
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Michael Group: Members Posts: 10,204 Joined: 1-November 08 From: Auburn, CA Member No.: 9,712 Region Association: Northern California |
Absolutely incredible work on the 914-GT emblems and the Porsche wall art. Just crazy really. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_pokal.gif)
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altitude411 |
Mar 31 2018, 11:40 AM
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I drove my 6 into a tree Group: Members Posts: 1,306 Joined: 21-September 14 From: montana Member No.: 17,932 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
I just want to say thanks for taking the time to post this thread. Your work is fantastic and shows what is possible with some time and dedication to something you want to do. Respect for your self taught skills. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) Subscribed.
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mepstein |
Mar 31 2018, 12:38 PM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,730 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif) Hello: Im going to have to drop out my 3.0 911 engine out of the 914 /6 conversion run great etc but i didnt have tin i havent driven the car but felt with a good oil cooling system and exhaust wrap id have the engine oil cool enough. So i bought tin out of Porsche restoration design and would like to know where one can get hardware and or instruction to install tin or do I have to Fabricate the harware? If anyone knows pls help. Regards Phil Plummer Phil - the tin should just bolt on. I think I used 5mm allen head bolts. Get them in stainless steel when you determine the correct size. Just look on the internet for a picture of a six engine with tin and you will figure it out quickly. Some race cars forgo the tin but they are always moving air past the engine. For street drivung, you need the tin. You can bolt in the tin without removing the engine. It’s tricky but very doable. I couldn’t tell you the proper order to assemble but I’m thinking back (engine firewall) to front. The back will be the most difficult since the engine fan obscures some of the view. |
defianty |
Apr 2 2018, 11:21 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 659 Joined: 9-August 06 From: Essex, UK Member No.: 6,621 Region Association: None |
Thanks for the positive comments guys.
I busted out my crayons today and finished off this drawing I started months and months ago. The reason was partly after reading redrobin911's colour dilemma and because I'm getting close to having to make the final choice myself. In my head the car has been going to be 'boring ol' silver' for quite some time. Now although I'm almost certain this is the case, I wobble on the decision almost daily (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Part of my reason other than just liking it, I like the fact the various colours can be added to it for alternate looks. I already have a very nice set of chrome bumpers so they will be able to go on in rotation with a fibreglass set I'll be getting soon. The fibreglass ones I'll be able to play around with like the ones below. The green giving a nod to the 914-6 GT number three car that came second at the Marathon De La Route in 1970. So that's where I am at the moment. I may wake up tomorrow and decide on one of the other half a dozen colours I really like, last night I saw a picture of Dave Lyons GT finished in Alaska Blue Metallic and I almost drooled on my phone! After being around for a few years now I've followed many great restorations but only now do I really understand the pain in selecting the 'right' colour. I think it's easier to name a child! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/s6.postimg.org-6621-1522689660.1.png) |
bbrock |
Apr 2 2018, 12:02 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,269 Joined: 17-February 17 From: Montana Member No.: 20,845 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
In my head the car has been going to be 'boring ol' silver' for quite some time. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bootyshake.gif) Silver is not boring! It's the best! Fast like a bullet. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/silver914.jpg) Although Alaska Blue metallic and Marathon Blue are way up there in my book. QUOTE After being around for a few years now I've followed many great restorations but only now do I really understand the pain in selecting the 'right' colour. I think it's easier to name a child! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) That's the beauty of original restorations. No painful color decisions. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Whatever you decide, it will be epic! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cheer.gif) |
defianty |
Apr 4 2018, 05:55 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 659 Joined: 9-August 06 From: Essex, UK Member No.: 6,621 Region Association: None |
Some of you may remember this little incident I had with the trolley style axle stands I was using.
(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/s6.postimg.org-6621-1522842934.1.jpg) This could have been a disaster but luckily the damage was minimal and I wasn't under that car! With paint time approaching I needed something more secure to enable me to roll the car out of the garage, down a long driveway and up on to a trailer. So I set about adapting what I had. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/s6.postimg.org-6621-1522842936.2.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/s6.postimg.org-6621-1522842937.3.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/s6.postimg.org-6621-1522842937.4.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/s6.postimg.org-6621-1522842938.5.jpg) I did all this a few weeks ago with just £35 of steel and a days work. I should have done it sooner really. |
Dion |
Apr 4 2018, 07:14 AM
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RN Group: Members Posts: 2,815 Joined: 16-September 04 From: Audubon,PA Member No.: 2,766 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Stephen those GT emblems are epic. Nice rendition.
Of course I’m partial to Marathon Blue but silver & chrome are always going to be stunning on your fresh metal work. Whatever your choice, it will be tops. Looks fantastic & looking forward to seeing its completion. Your patience and attention to detail in this build shows. I do find it helpful to tackling mine. Again.. well done! |
defianty |
Apr 4 2018, 08:17 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 659 Joined: 9-August 06 From: Essex, UK Member No.: 6,621 Region Association: None |
Thanks Dion, appreciated.
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Lucky9146 |
Apr 4 2018, 09:49 AM
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Always Wanted A Bigger Go Cart Group: Members Posts: 1,671 Joined: 22-September 14 From: Poway California Member No.: 17,942 Region Association: Southern California |
Good fix on the dolly's, sure to be more stable. I too should have done things in the correct order like finally installing my lift AFTER pretty much finishing my car. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
I will post pics soon on my thread, just finished yesterday. What ever color you choose will be the best on all your great metal work (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/first.gif) looking forward to paint pics. Assembly is coming and is fun with clean/new parts. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/white914.jpg) |
mobymutt |
Apr 4 2018, 10:01 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 553 Joined: 16-December 13 From: Kingston, Ontario, Canada Member No.: 16,770 Region Association: Canada |
I love the note on your Solidworks drawing: "If in doubt, ask". I've never seen that before, but I think I should add it to all my title blocks!
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