 914-6 2.7 Euro RS Twin Plug Project, sleeper 914 with a twin plug surprise |
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| davehg |
 Sep 19 2017, 06:57 PM
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Member  Group: Members Posts: 183 Joined: 19-September 17 From: PNW Member No.: 21,443 Region Association: Pacific Northwest 
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New member, long time lurker here. I'll be posting another 914-6 conversion project shortly, but posting a thanks for now for all the great info I've come across here.
I took the easy way into 914-6 ownership - I bought a completed car that was a track car whose PO had done the hard work. This car has a 3.2L engine, injected, with large riveted composite flares, and a pretty austere race-friendly interior with racing seats, roll cage, and little else - not even side windows or carpeting or panels. This car I refer to as the Outlaw - it's a middle finger to the purists and I absolutely love it. But...I wanted a clean and pretty "cars and coffee" version. There's not a ton of value restoring the Outlaw. The Outlaw's body is fine, but it is purposely built. I had bought a project from a local Porschephile who had too many nice projects (356, pre-73 911). his goal was originally to do a big Raby 4. He had stripped, prepped, and beautifully painted a really nice shell, and spent a small fortune getting the original bumpers and details correct. He had a set of mint Fuchs 14" wheels, bits and pieces from 2 interiors, and was really only missing the engine and some trim/interior bits. A deal was struck, trailer was hitched, boxes moved, and now it's my problem. The conversion wisdom here seems to be to go big - 3.0l or more. But I have a big engine car. This is intended to be just a Sunday cruiser, no track time. Plus, I have access to perfectly nice prepped 2.7L that has case guards installed, a 911s cam, and the work mostly done, for a decent price, and it would sound just swell with PMOs. So I am heading this route. I am taking my time with the Pretty Car - not going to be concours but a great looking driver with super clean details, no flares, and more along the lines of an original -6 with a bit more oomph. I'll detail the suspension bits so it looks pretty on a lift, and I need to think through the oil cooling issues - it doesn't get super hot in the PNW but for a few days a year, and if I can avoid the expense of a front mounted cooler and running lines that would be just swell. At least that's my current plan. We'll see where my budget leads. I have a good start - great primed and painted rust free shell, all the expensive body work complete, an engine lined up, and a clear vision of where I want to go. Looking forward to the collective input and experience when I get started this winter. |
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| arne |
Sep 19 2017, 07:01 PM
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Serial Rescuer of old vehicles... Group: Members Posts: 732 Joined: 31-January 17 From: Eugene, Oregon Member No.: 20,799 Region Association: None |
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As you already know, there is a whole pile of help available here. Oh yeah... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/thisthreadisworthlesswithoutpics.gif) |
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| GeorgeRud |
Sep 19 2017, 07:08 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,725 Joined: 27-July 05 From: Chicagoland Member No.: 4,482 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
The 2.7 is a great engine for your conversion. Mine puts out 199 hp at the rear wheels, so no lack of grunt and a lighter, free revving engine. Sounds like yours has the right components to make it a good reliable engine.
However, figure on putting in a front oil cooler to properly cool anything larger than 2.4 liters. |
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| PanelBilly |
Sep 19 2017, 09:27 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,797 Joined: 23-July 06 From: Kent, Wa Member No.: 6,488 Region Association: Pacific Northwest
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I run my 3.0 with just the cooler on the engine. Works fine so far.
What part of the PNW are you in? |
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| davehg |
Sep 19 2017, 10:29 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 183 Joined: 19-September 17 From: PNW Member No.: 21,443 Region Association: Pacific Northwest
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QUOTE(PanelBilly @ Sep 19 2017, 08:27 PM)  I run my 3.0 with just the cooler on the engine. Works fine so far. What part of the PNW are you in? Just up the road from you near Issaquah. I hear differing thoughts on the oil cooler. I snagged a vellios 2 piece tank on eBay before deciding I may not need it. Also scored all the gauges for a true 914-6 cockpit, including a tach! Bypassing the cooler will save bucks! I still need various interior trim pieces. Pix of both to follow shortly. |
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| Larmo63 |
Sep 19 2017, 10:59 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,264 Joined: 3-March 14 From: San Clemente, Ca Member No.: 17,068 Region Association: Southern California |
There are a few of us here who have just crossed that happy bridge into /6 power. Read a few threads, look at some of the pics of what can be done, and......
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| aharder |
Sep 20 2017, 03:51 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,371 Joined: 6-September 11 From: Dallas Texas Member No.: 13,524 Region Association: Southwest Region
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| mepstein |
Sep 20 2017, 05:32 AM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,239 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region
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Try it without the cooler and add it if things get warm. Some engines run hotter than others. |
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| mb911 |
Sep 20 2017, 10:43 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 6,810 Joined: 2-January 09 From: Burlington wi Member No.: 9,892 Region Association: Upper MidWest
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Very nice let me know if I can help. Check out my 914-6 conversion thread if you need to feel good about your starting point.. Miles ahead of mine.. But along the way I developed 1-5/8" heat exchangers and oil tanks so I think I have an excuse
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| davehg |
Sep 20 2017, 09:59 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 183 Joined: 19-September 17 From: PNW Member No.: 21,443 Region Association: Pacific Northwest
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I love coming home to packages.
The Pretty Car came without gauges. Two weeks on eBay and I was able to separately source a 2 piece oil/fuel gauge, 150mph Speedo, and a 914-6 Tech that was new old stock, plus the bezel holding them all. Crossing my fingers the gauges don't require restoration. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i.imgur.com-21443-1505966377.1.jpg) |
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| Mikey914 |
Sep 20 2017, 10:08 PM
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The rubber man Group: Members Posts: 12,638 Joined: 27-December 04 From: Hillsboro, OR Member No.: 3,348 Region Association: None
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Welcome Dave,
Where in the PNW are ya? You may find Cary at Middlemotor a good resource as well as there are a few others I can point you at, Looking forward to seeing the project come together. |
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| IronHillRestorations |
Sep 21 2017, 11:37 AM
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I. I. R. C. Group: Members Posts: 6,714 Joined: 18-March 03 From: West TN Member No.: 439 Region Association: None
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Looks like a very worth chassis. I do engine harnesses for 6 conversions so let me know if I can help with that.
I've done a few 6 conversions, so hit me up any time for free advice. |
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| JOEPROPER |
Sep 21 2017, 12:19 PM
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The answer is "no" unless you ask... Group: Members Posts: 1,184 Joined: 21-November 15 From: White Plains New York Member No.: 19,387 Region Association: North East States
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QUOTE(Perry Kiehl @ Sep 21 2017, 01:37 PM) Looks like a very worth chassis. I do engine harnesses for 6 conversions so let me know if I can help with that. I've done a few 6 conversions, so hit me up any time for free advice. Good to know. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/flag.gif) |
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| davehg |
Sep 21 2017, 02:01 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 183 Joined: 19-September 17 From: PNW Member No.: 21,443 Region Association: Pacific Northwest
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Thanks Perry and Mikey. I am just outside of Seattle.
Here's where I am thinking about general gameplan - first by starting with a list of what I have and what I will need at various stages: 1. Get a working roller. This entails pulling the suspension bits off the body (they are just there for rolling the body). Take the 911 S front end suspension I got with the project and clean it up, same with the rears (trying to locate two rear 5 lug hubs - either aftermarket or if I can source a 911 rear). Nail down steering rack. Take those pieces and get them powder-coated/plated. Probably will stick with stock shocks/struts and not pursue coil overs. Clean and powdercoat fuel tank. 2. Simultaneously, work on getting the 2.7L ready. It needs top end work, and ditch the CIS for a set of PMOs tweaked to match the engine (it has an S cam). 3. Figure out the oil cooling system. I have a 2 part Vellios tank I got off ebay, but thinking to buck up for the Pelican tank or something similar. I need a complete system - lines, fittings, etc. Will hold off on a front oil cooler - for the drives and climate in the PNW, not sure it's worth the extra $$$. 4. Assemble the roller - suspension - steering - brake - pedal bits. Basically, a true roller. Install power train and connect fuel/oil/brake lines. Finish electrical wiring. Essentially, get a running roller with only interior to finish. 5. Finish interior/trim/glass/rubber. I'll need a new dash top, reupholster stock seats (tartan plaid inserts maybe!), and finish interior with RS style interior - new RS door panels, grey carpet, many misc. bits. Glass and trim finished too. I think I need lots of rubber. 6. Watch as this project sucks all my free cash, but smile when it's done! |
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| mb911 |
Sep 21 2017, 02:07 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 6,810 Joined: 2-January 09 From: Burlington wi Member No.: 9,892 Region Association: Upper MidWest
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The 2 piece tanks off ebay take some specialty tools. I have a few tanks I bought off folks who gave up on them and traded them in on my completed tanks. Plus they are really heavy.
I will have to look at pelican as they are supposed to be carrying my tanks now as well. |
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| davehg |
Sep 21 2017, 02:07 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 183 Joined: 19-September 17 From: PNW Member No.: 21,443 Region Association: Pacific Northwest
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QUOTE(mb911 @ Sep 20 2017, 09:43 AM) Very nice let me know if I can help. Check out my 914-6 conversion thread if you need to feel good about your starting point.. Miles ahead of mine.. But along the way I developed 1-5/8" heat exchangers and oil tanks so I think I have an excuse I may need to chat. Oil tank is on the short list. I am starting from ground zero on the oil tank and fittings. No front cooler at this point. Heat exchangers I need to revisit as part of the exhaust review - not sure what the 2.7 comes with. It gets cold in the PNW and windshields fog up, so heat is a necessity. |
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| Drums66 |
 Sep 21 2017, 02:39 PM
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914 Rudiments Group: Members Posts: 5,321 Joined: 15-January 03 From: Coronado,Cali Member No.: 151 Region Association: Southwest Region |
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| mb911 |
Sep 21 2017, 04:20 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 6,810 Joined: 2-January 09 From: Burlington wi Member No.: 9,892 Region Association: Upper MidWest
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QUOTE(davehg @ Sep 21 2017, 12:07 PM) QUOTE(mb911 @ Sep 20 2017, 09:43 AM) Very nice let me know if I can help. Check out my 914-6 conversion thread if you need to feel good about your starting point.. Miles ahead of mine.. But along the way I developed 1-5/8" heat exchangers and oil tanks so I think I have an excuse I may need to chat. Oil tank is on the short list. I am starting from ground zero on the oil tank and fittings. No front cooler at this point. Heat exchangers I need to revisit as part of the exhaust review - not sure what the 2.7 comes with. It gets cold in the PNW and windshields fog up, so heat is a necessity. I make both oil tanks and heatexchangers.. I actually listed a few oil tanks in the classifieds at a really good discount because I have a few too many in stock right now.. |
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| Cairo94507 |
Sep 22 2017, 07:03 AM
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Michael Group: Members Posts: 9,713 Joined: 1-November 08 From: Auburn, CA Member No.: 9,712 Region Association: Northern California
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