 914-6 2.7 Euro RS Twin Plug Project, sleeper 914 with a twin plug surprise |
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| RickS |
 Oct 26 2017, 09:14 AM
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Senior Member  Group: Members Posts: 1,408 Joined: 17-April 06 From: 'False City', WA Member No.: 5,880 Region Association: None  |
I live literally live across the river from Bernie and have been watching this phenomenal build from the get-go. His attention to detail is extraordinary and build quality can’t be bested. The car is getting close to delivery. Am hoping to ride shotgun on one of the shake down runs.
Bernie, worked tirelessly getting my 73 S back to factory condition on all the mechanicals prior to sale and made it run and look factory new. He also did the 3.0 conversion on my teener using as many genuine 6 parts as he had stashed away (tin work, oil tank and plumbing, heat exchangers and on and on. Added a front GT oil cooler but through magic and trickery managed to keep the front end looking stock. When done, he declared the car a “torque monster” and I couldn’t agree more. Any work done to Bernie standards will be work well done. QUOTE(davehg @ Oct 6 2017, 10:03 PM)  You guessed it, my project is “feeling the Bern.” He’s a pretty awesome builder. The 911S he did for the prior owner of my project was gorgeous! Thanks for the info on the exchangers, glad to know they will work. |
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| davehg |
Nov 13 2017, 01:52 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 205 Joined: 19-September 17 From: PNW Member No.: 21,443 Region Association: Pacific Northwest 
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I went to SoCal and had a chance to play with my black Outlaw 914 for a few days to get more inspiration for the current project. I drove with members of the SoCal RGruppe who had on hand about 50 various cool Porsche 911s and 912's. My friend with the 3.6 conversion and I were the only 914's on hand.
(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i.imgur.com-21443-1510602728.1.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i.imgur.com-21443-1510602728.2.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i.imgur.com-21443-1510602729.3.jpg) I love this car - especially the attitude. Driving through the ritzier parts of Palm Springs, it was like an upraised middle finger to all the Aston Martins, Bentleys, Ferraris and such. My favorite part was pulling up to a super fancy country club and having the car snort, rip, and smoke (yes, I discovered I need a top end job finally). (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i.imgur.com-21443-1510602729.4.jpg) We had a great drive with the RGruppe folks and then peeled off yesterday for some quicker runs up in the mountains. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i.imgur.com-21443-1510602729.5.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i.imgur.com-21443-1510602729.6.jpg) I closed the deal on the 2.7 and will have that shipped back for a rebuild, using 2.7RS pistons, Solex cams, and decided we will do the oil cooler in front. I check out Rick's 3.0 which uses the same cooler setup and it's really stealth, just a bit of the front bumper and valance rolled back slightly to increase the gap and that is plenty for cooling. Got home and my new stainless fuel lines were waiting for me. Can't wait to get busy! |
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| davehg |
Dec 11 2017, 02:37 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 205 Joined: 19-September 17 From: PNW Member No.: 21,443 Region Association: Pacific Northwest
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It's been raining parts lately - Appbiz sent over a set of RS door panels, and bits of stuff has been trickling in from 914rubber's black Friday sale.
I finally got the bushings and bars from Elephant racing, the stainless brake lines from PMB, and the fuel lines from Tangerine. The front and rear suspension is now ready for install as we got the powdercoated front bits back, and mated to a set of Bilsteins. These go on this week: (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i.imgur.com-21443-1513024643.1.jpg) |
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| mb911 |
Dec 11 2017, 02:49 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 7,473 Joined: 2-January 09 From: Burlington wi Member No.: 9,892 Region Association: Upper MidWest
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Awesome.. You should have heat exchangers by now and muffler this week. Here is a picture of your heat exchangers mounted on my engine..
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| davehg |
Dec 16 2017, 11:00 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 205 Joined: 19-September 17 From: PNW Member No.: 21,443 Region Association: Pacific Northwest
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Woohoo!! I finally have a roller!
Front and rear suspension installed and looking great with the PMB brakes! I need to do the POR15 a bit better though as there are some bare spots. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i.imgur.com-21443-1513486807.1.jpg) Note the shiny new brake lines! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i.imgur.com-21443-1513486807.2.jpg) Bolted on the 14" fuchs - geez they are small! I'll live with them a while before looking at 15"s: (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i.imgur.com-21443-1513486807.3.jpg) Before and after: (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i.imgur.com-21443-1513486808.4.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i.imgur.com-21443-1513486808.5.jpg) One odd thing - I was missing the guard for the front of the A-arm on the passenger site. Anyone have a spare? Here's the part: (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i.imgur.com-21443-1513486808.6.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i.imgur.com-21443-1513486808.7.jpg) As I post this, headed down to SoCal to pick up the 2.7. Ben's exhaust bits are in the shop waiting an engine, along with Rich Johnson's motor mounts and throttle linkage kit. Fingers crossed the engine doesn't need too much work before assembly. I've decided to drill the heads for a twin plug arrangement too. |
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| Mark Henry |
Dec 17 2017, 03:46 PM
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that's what I do! Group: Members Posts: 20,065 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Port Hope, Ontario Member No.: 26 Region Association: Canada |
QUOTE(davehg @ Sep 19 2017, 11:29 PM) QUOTE(PanelBilly @ Sep 19 2017, 08:27 PM) I run my 3.0 with just the cooler on the engine. Works fine so far. What part of the PNW are you in? I hear differing thoughts on the oil cooler. I snagged a vellios 2 piece tank on eBay before deciding I may not need it. Also scored all the gauges for a true 914-6 cockpit, including a tach! Bypassing the cooler will save bucks! The cooler issue some are rabid about it, but you have to remember that they're often the southern boys who run their cars in some serious heat and bumper to bumper traffic. Or they're racers running high RPM constantly. In cooler climates you may be able to run just a stock cooler. So it depends and you won't know till you get it on the road. My conversion is a mid/hi performance carbed 3.0, so far my temps seem normal, but it's a fresh build with only a month driving time and I haven't pushed it real hard yet. |
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| davehg |
Jan 19 2018, 12:33 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 205 Joined: 19-September 17 From: PNW Member No.: 21,443 Region Association: Pacific Northwest
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Long time since I last updated. I brought the 2.7 home and my engine builder looked it over. It needs...lots of machining. Sending off to Ollie's next week for about $3k in machine work - shuffle pin, oil return and other stuff for the case, port and machine heads, valves, guides, for the heads, media tumble etc. I have the case certs and studs, so I did manage to save some $$. Also, the cylinders were Mahles in mint shape, ready for a new set of RS pistons.
Decided now is the time to go Twin Plug. I am having the heads drilled to accommodate a twin plug and trying to steel myself for the significant extra costs of adding a distributor, CDI boxes, and the wiring and bits. I might go single plug to start if my budget doesn't allow, but how much more cool to launch as a twin plug! While the engine is being rebuilt, I need to source some engine tins, and hoping Ben comes through on the cast oil lines! I located the spare part depicted above, and managed to score a brand new Engleman and Jwest fuseboxes to upgrade. Leaning towards the Engleman simply because it looks better. I also said goodbye to the Z4M Coupe which is being consigned for sale to finance completion of this build. I think I made the right choice but will likely add the Z4M to the list of cars I wish I still had. I don't plan on making that mistake with the 914 however.... |
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| mepstein |
Jan 19 2018, 07:37 AM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,731 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region
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The Engleman had an issue with shorting to the chassis. Just make sure that is worked out before you power up the car.
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| tygaboy |
Jan 19 2018, 12:04 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,501 Joined: 6-October 15 From: Petaluma, CA Member No.: 19,241 Region Association: Northern California
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Off topic but I have a buddy looking for a Z4M Coupe! I'll PM you for details.
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| davehg |
Jan 19 2018, 12:48 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 205 Joined: 19-September 17 From: PNW Member No.: 21,443 Region Association: Pacific Northwest
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QUOTE(mepstein @ Jan 19 2018, 05:37 AM) The Engleman had an issue with shorting to the chassis. Just make sure that is worked out before you power up the car. Hmmm, thanks for this info. Was there a specific fix? I did find the following discussion on another old thread: "The "Y" splitters can touch the metal fuse panel frame when bolted in place. Mine were very tight after the Engman/JWest upgrade. I had to loosen the factory wrap on the harness to allow for extra wire movement above the panel. Shrink tubing on the bare brass bits will help also. NOTE: The constant power to the fuse panel and ignition switch is UN-FUSED at the battery. If you short the large red wires to ground/earth, the wire will melt everything from the battery to the short. It may cause a fire. Add 4 inline fuses at the battery 20 amps will due for each. Now that you have modified the electrical system with the new fuse panel, this is an important issue for you. 40 years ago when the 914 rolled off the assembly line, the unfused wires were not a big deal. 40 years later, old insulation, previous owners, radio installs, hacked wiring, etc... Your electrical system is at risk." |
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| mepstein |
Jan 19 2018, 01:05 PM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,731 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region
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QUOTE(davehg @ Jan 19 2018, 01:48 PM) QUOTE(mepstein @ Jan 19 2018, 05:37 AM) The Engleman had an issue with shorting to the chassis. Just make sure that is worked out before you power up the car. Hmmm, thanks for this info. Was there a specific fix? I don't have one but I think it was the way it was mounted, some part on the back touched the dash. |
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| mb911 |
Jan 20 2018, 04:41 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 7,473 Joined: 2-January 09 From: Burlington wi Member No.: 9,892 Region Association: Upper MidWest
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Dave here is a teaser for you..
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| davehg |
Jan 15 2019, 12:29 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 205 Joined: 19-September 17 From: PNW Member No.: 21,443 Region Association: Pacific Northwest
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Another update. Car is back at Bernie’s and Rich Johnston’s motor mounts are fitted and will be spot welded shortly. Oil lines, cooler, and fittings are beings installed. Them comes engine rebuild.
(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i.imgur.com-21443-1547533791.1.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i.imgur.com-21443-1547533791.2.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i.imgur.com-21443-1547533791.3.jpg) |
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| davehg |
Jan 15 2019, 12:46 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 205 Joined: 19-September 17 From: PNW Member No.: 21,443 Region Association: Pacific Northwest
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Engine back from Ollie’s. Case was media blasted, shuffle pinned, decked, with oil bypass mods. Heads ported, Valves installed, extra spark plug hole drilled. Pistons coated.
(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i.imgur.com-21443-1547534758.1.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i.imgur.com-21443-1547534759.2.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i.imgur.com-21443-1547534759.3.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i.imgur.com-21443-1547534759.4.jpg) |
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| PanelBilly |
Jan 15 2019, 09:45 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,868 Joined: 23-July 06 From: Kent, Wa Member No.: 6,488 Region Association: Pacific Northwest
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So many great looking parts. The engine is just around the corner.
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| jd74914 |
Jan 15 2019, 10:23 AM
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Its alive Group: Members Posts: 4,834 Joined: 16-February 04 From: CT Member No.: 1,659 Region Association: North East States |
QUOTE(davehg @ Jan 19 2018, 01:33 AM) Decided now is the time to go Twin Plug. I am having the heads drilled to accommodate a twin plug and trying to steel myself for the significant extra costs of adding a distributor, CDI boxes, and the wiring and bits. I might go single plug to start if my budget doesn't allow, but how much more cool to launch as a twin plug! If you don't mind the look (or lack of dizzy), it might be more cost effective to go crankfire. Certainly allows more spark tuning opportunities. Clewett Engineering makes a pretty nice complete package system for ~$1500-$1800 depending on options and there are lots of less expensive more-DIY options too. |
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| davehg |
Jan 15 2019, 12:06 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 205 Joined: 19-September 17 From: PNW Member No.: 21,443 Region Association: Pacific Northwest
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QUOTE If you don't mind the look (or lack of dizzy), it might be more cost effective to go crankfire. Certainly allows more spark tuning opportunities. Clewett Engineering makes a pretty nice complete package system for ~$1500-$1800 depending on options and there are lots of less expensive more-DIY options too. Too late now - I've already purchased a modified Bosch distributor and cap/rotor with Pertronix, as well as the MSD box. I think the all-in cost was probably another $1k over the Clewett package, when I factored in the parts, machine work, and extra wires. |
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| Lucky9146 |
Jan 15 2019, 12:57 PM
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Always Wanted A Bigger Go Cart Group: Members Posts: 1,671 Joined: 22-September 14 From: Poway California Member No.: 17,942 Region Association: Southern California
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QUOTE(davehg @ Jan 15 2019, 10:06 AM) QUOTE If you don't mind the look (or lack of dizzy), it might be more cost effective to go crankfire. Certainly allows more spark tuning opportunities. Clewett Engineering makes a pretty nice complete package system for ~$1500-$1800 depending on options and there are lots of less expensive more-DIY options too. Too late now - I've already purchased a modified Bosch distributor and cap/rotor with Pertronix, as well as the MSD box. I think the all-in cost was probably another $1k over the Clewett package, when I factored in the parts, machine work, and extra wires. Too cool on the twin plug! Very jealous (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wub.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/white914.jpg) |
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