Clutch arm position ?, correct or not... Options

[porschetub]

Based on what I have studied I seem to think this is not right,new pressure plate/disk,new cable,rebuilt pedal assembly etc ,etc and unknown flywheel in good condition,thinking it has been heavily machined,pedal adjustment is by the book...my idea is the lever is hitting the trans case when pedal fully down...help please before I pull the g/box again.

TIA guys.
P.S.clutch cable tube is fine.

[mobymutt]

Mine was doing the same thing -- I adjusted the clutch pedal stop bar (under the clutch pedal). But I'm a newbie, so hopefully somebody else will chime in.

Is that nut/stud in the pic some kind of clutch arm stop? I don't remember seeing that on mine.

[ndfrigi]

Mine was doing the same thing -- I adjusted the clutch pedal stop bar (under the clutch pedal). But I'm a newbie, so hopefully somebody else will chime in.

Is that nut/stud in the pic some kind of clutch arm stop? I don't remember seeing that on mine.

[Larmo63]

I think he meant the silver nut at the edge of the clutch arm.

[mobymutt]

I did, but I suspect it's just the back end of a housing bolt.

Sorry, back on topic now...

[r_towle]

You can shim the clutch release fork pivot ball to compensate for the flywheel difference from the spec , you can also heat and bend the release fork towards the front of the car.
Lastly, get a new flywheel.

[porschetub]

You can shim the clutch release fork pivot ball to compensate for the flywheel difference from the spec , you can also heat and bend the release fork towards the front of the car.
Lastly, get a new flywheel.

Yes obviously that's my next step,just thinking someone may say the release arm is a little too far towards the rear,living on my own in the country I have no one to push the pedal,I do know a really nice girl down the road 5km's away...food for thought or just (IMG:style_emoticons/default/drooley.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/drooley.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif) .
I will jack the car up further and check for a contact point on the release arm meanwhile.

[ndfrigi]

You can shim the clutch release fork pivot ball to compensate for the flywheel difference from the spec , you can also heat and bend the release fork towards the front of the car.
Lastly, get a new flywheel.

Yes obviously that's my next step,just thinking someone may say the release arm is a little too far towards the rear,living on my own in the country I have no one to push the pedal,I do know a really nice girl down the road 5km's away...food for thought or just (IMG:style_emoticons/default/drooley.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/drooley.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif) .
I will jack the car up further and check for a contact point on the release arm meanwhile.

Sir Dean, is your clutch now working well and is the engage just around 1/4 when releasing the pedal? It might just need tightening a little more?

[rhodyguy]

Put some washers under the cable nut. If that's a nyloc nut on the cable you might want to back it Up with a jam nut.

[porschetub]

You can shim the clutch release fork pivot ball to compensate for the flywheel difference from the spec , you can also heat and bend the release fork towards the front of the car.
Lastly, get a new flywheel.

Yes obviously that's my next step,just thinking someone may say the release arm is a little too far towards the rear,living on my own in the country I have no one to push the pedal,I do know a really nice girl down the road 5km's away...food for thought or just (IMG:style_emoticons/default/drooley.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/drooley.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif) .
I will jack the car up further and check for a contact point on the release arm meanwhile.

Sir Dean, is your clutch now working well and is the engage just around 1/4 when releasing the pedal? It might just need tightening a little more?

Noel thanks,nah its a machined flywheel no question...bought it off a key player on here and he got it wrong...not throwing stones as the price was right.
I checked and have a contact point on the arm to gearbox so all isn't great ,box is getting ready to come out now,time for a pivot ball washer.
Hope you are well my friend,thanks.

[mgphoto]

Adding washers or extending anything to compensate for the issue of the resurfaced flywheel will only cause the arm to contact the transmission body and you will break the welds and pull out the clutch cable tube, that is the weakest point.
New flywheel or shims under the pivot ball.

[porschetub]

Adding washers or extending anything to compensate for the issue of the resurfaced flywheel will only cause the arm to contact the transmission body and you will break the welds and pull out the clutch cable tube, that is the weakest point.
New flywheel or shims under the pivot ball.

Exactly ,that's why I'am stuck under the car pulling to trans (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) ,been there and done all that sh#t,think I have the same issue forresthaag had with his setup.
Have a noticeable contact point on one of the diff side cover nuts,easy to see.
Will report back but I'am slow @ these jobs (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) .

[r_towle]

Cut a board to fit sideways in front of the seat to protect the seat. Cut a board to push against the clutch pedal and the other board to hold the pedal down.

Or
Pack around the clutch release fork with clay
Push pedal
Go measure clay

You should feel it hit the tranny case at the back if the condition you believe actually exists.

[porschetub]

Cut a board to fit sideways in front of the seat to protect the seat. Cut a board to push against the clutch pedal and the other board to hold the pedal down.

Or
Pack around the clutch release fork with clay
Push pedal
Go measure clay

You should feel it hit the tranny case at the back if the condition you believe actually exists.

Thanks but no need ,confirmed the lever was hitting....too much "lost motion" on the arm besides.
How the hell do I remove the pivot ball, (IMG:style_emoticons/default/WTF.gif) who was the moron that designed that (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) .

[Lucky9146]

Cut a board to fit sideways in front of the seat to protect the seat. Cut a board to push against the clutch pedal and the other board to hold the pedal down.

Or
Pack around the clutch release fork with clay
Push pedal
Go measure clay

You should feel it hit the tranny case at the back if the condition you believe actually exists.

Thanks but no need ,confirmed the lever was hitting....too much "lost motion" on the arm besides.
How the hell do I remove the pivot ball, (IMG:style_emoticons/default/WTF.gif) who was the moron that designed that (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) .

You can put a shim under the shift ball bushing in the shift arm. See my thread post #181
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=261197
Gook luck
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[mark04usa]

Clearance is an issue. I use a 1/4" drive deep Snap-On socket...only one I found with thin enough wall to fit. IIRC its a 13mm (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

[porschetub]

Cut a board to fit sideways in front of the seat to protect the seat. Cut a board to push against the clutch pedal and the other board to hold the pedal down.

Or
Pack around the clutch release fork with clay
Push pedal
Go measure clay

You should feel it hit the tranny case at the back if the condition you believe actually exists.

Thanks but no need ,confirmed the lever was hitting....too much "lost motion" on the arm besides.
How the hell do I remove the pivot ball, (IMG:style_emoticons/default/WTF.gif) who was the moron that designed that (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) .

You can put a shim under the shift ball bushing in the shift arm. See my thread post #181
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=261197
Gook luck
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Thanks Jim,would do but don't have a replacement,can't see a way to remove the (new) one that's in there without busting it (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) .
Mark thanks got the jist of removing it ...just venting cause I wanted to refit it and had the time.
Not sure about the size of the hex on it ? looks like 14mm ,anyway will overcome this issue.
Decided this morning not to rush it cause will do a few job's "while I'am in there",will
replace rear engine tin seal and fix a few other minor issues, (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer.gif) .

[porschetub]

Mongreled a thin wall cheapo $1 socket ,bored it out with 14mm drill to get clearance over the ball on the pivot,worked a treat.

When I removed the pivot I noticed a strong smell of gearoil,appears the mounting hole is a steel threaded insert going into the case but open ended.
PET shows a washer underneath of 8mm x 4mm...not what I found,more like 1.5 thick so added another washer 1.5mm as the one I found.
Resealed and put it back in fingers crossed for a result.

More to follow (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer.gif) .

[r_towle]

Measure the flywheel to see how much was ground off.
Spec is here somewhere in a diagram. Search for flywheel, should be easy to find.
Adding two washers is not unheard of. After two it's time for a new flywheel.

[porschetub]

Measure the flywheel to see how much was ground off.
Spec is here somewhere in a diagram. Search for flywheel, should be easy to find.
Adding two washers is not unheard of. After two it's time for a new flywheel.

Never found a spec on flywheel resurface ,one I found didn't meet my engine build number,had a Haynes manual but lost it sometime ago bugger it.
Pretty happy and that this will sort my main issue.
Box is all back together ,hopefully back in car very soon.