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> Games with Stub Axles, (insert grumbling here)
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post May 22 2005, 05:45 PM
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QUOTE (skline @ May 22 2005, 05:35 PM)
Rusty, if I were there, I could have them out in like 15 minutes. Fly me out there and I will take care of it for you. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif)

Make him take you to Aggyville... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/cool_shades.gif)
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post May 22 2005, 05:45 PM
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QUOTE (skline @ May 22 2005, 04:35 PM)
Rusty, if I were there, I could have them out in like 15 minutes. Fly me out there and I will take care of it for you. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif)

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post May 22 2005, 05:46 PM
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Well, I would love to come back and see my old Alma mater but I have to go to work at the port tomorrow and hopefully get 1840 hours as quick as possible. When I said use a puller, find a large 3 or 4 claw that will fit over the hub. Then push on the middle like you are removing the hub. The hub wont come out but the stub axle will push in. You can probably rent one from a local FLAPS. I have one here and it worked great for me. When you go to put it in is where it will get tricky. With any luck, you wont have to replace your wheel bearings. It can be done, I have done it a few times.
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post May 22 2005, 05:46 PM
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Let me know of you need a new stub axle. I can have one there in two days for $7.70 (flat rate box).
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post May 22 2005, 05:49 PM
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Is that where they grow "Eggplants" errrrrr Aubergines?
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post May 22 2005, 06:06 PM
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Stubs, hubs, schlubs.

I meant to say hubs, but on my keyboard the 'st' key is right next to the 'h'.

Thanks for the good eye Eric. And you are of course right about hammering the bearing, though I think I meant the light 'tappity, tappity' style. I also like your tip about using the old bearing as a drift. That never occured to me. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/unsure.gif)
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post May 22 2005, 07:05 PM
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I took the easy way out when replacing my rear bearings. I dropped the trailing arms and had Perry Kiehl fix me up a set with bearings, hubs and bushings already assembled. That was after I had wasted a stub axle and nut and decided I was in over my head.
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post May 22 2005, 07:30 PM
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QUOTE (Eric_Shea @ May 22 2005, 05:38 PM)
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Hey Look Everybody!! Somebody "wants" to go to Kansas!! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/w00t.gif)

BTDT..... Colder than $hit in January, but Rusty is a good cook. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/chowtime.gif)


If you need a stub, I can send it next day air. I also have the special tool to pull and reinstall the bearings i can send too....


If you have a press at the base shop, just pull the trailing arm and take it to the press. A little hydraulic pressure will have that stub axle out in no time.
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post May 22 2005, 07:59 PM
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I'm really dragging my feet about pulling the entire trailing arm.

The car rides pretty nice, and I don't trust the monkeys in BFK to do a decent alignment.

Besides... ever snap one of the trailing arm mounting bolts? (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/ohmy.gif)
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post May 28 2005, 04:26 PM
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I got the stub axle out! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smile.gif)

It took one whack with a 5 pound hammer to knock it loose. Maybe it was all the soaking with PB Blaster, too. Now that I have it out, I see that there was a bit of rust holding it in place. What I don't see, however, is how my bearings can be f'd up.

It's like those little wooden Chinese dolls (no, not you, Jenny... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif) )

My visualization of the assembly is... Bearing inside trailing arm. Hub snugly inside bearing. Stub axle inside hub. Rapping on the stub axle shouldn't have caused the bearing assembly to move.

Or is this just one of those things I won't understand and should just take on faith?

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post May 28 2005, 04:45 PM
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Is that where they grow "Eggplants" errrrrr Aubergines?

No, that's where there is an abundance of intoxicated college age women... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wub.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/beer3.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/pray.gif)
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post May 28 2005, 05:46 PM
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Take our word for it. It's trash. Get a new one from www.europeanautomotive.com, something like $43 shipped to your door in two days.
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post May 28 2005, 08:03 PM
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Rusty....stick your hand in there and rotate the bearing....if it feels rough at all, replace it. You can also look with a light and see if the seal is disturbed. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/cool_shades.gif)
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post May 29 2005, 09:18 AM
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The rear bearing on a 914 is made with 2 roller surfaces. Inside it has a split inner race. When the drive flange fits inside of it, the stub axle presses against the inboard half of the inner race. When you pull the stub axle, you probably disloged the inner race. That would cause the bearing to become loose. The only way to make sure that you don't have a bearing failure in a very short period is to replace the bearing.

Get a big assed slide hammer (O'Reilley here will loan you one. You just have to have a credit card for the security deposit) and use it to pull the hub. Most likely there will be half of the inner race left on it. You may have to have that pressed off.

Then pull the bearing retainer plate and use the slide hammer and a big thick washer to pull the bearing. Or you can crawl under and hammer it out with a big punch.

Then put the bearing back into the trailing arm (freezing it overnight will shrink it and help to make it easier to install). Bolt the retaining plate back on. Use the big assed washer and a long bolt to pull the hub into the bearing. MAKE SURE THAT YOU SUPPORT THE INBOARD END OF THE BEARING WHEN PULLING THE DRIVE FLANGE INTO THE OUTBOARD END OF IT.

Sorry to shout, but I didn't want you to miss that. The bearing will be ruined if you dont support it. What I have is a couple of big thick washers and a picece of an old ball screw from a milling machine (A ball screw is precision machined tool steel piece of all thread). Two mounting nuts from a milling machine retaining bolt package make the rest of it.

Order of parts from inboard to outboard, all hooked over the ball screw.

Big nut --Big washer --- Bearing -- hub -- big washer-- big nut.

Tighten the nuts to pull the hub into the bearing.

Remove the ball screw and the washers. Put some anti-seize on the splines of the stub axle and install it into the hub.


Hope that helps.

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post May 29 2005, 10:10 AM
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Good news/bad news.

Good news: The axle is in good shape. This morning I pressed off the CV. I cleaned, inspected & repacked them, put new boots on and pressed the CVs back in place.

Bad news: I know I bought a set of rear wheel bearings... but I sure as hell seem to have lost them. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/mad.gif) I hate it when I lose perfectly good parts.

I'll tear apart the garage one more time to see if they haven't grown legs or something.

More later.
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post May 29 2005, 05:40 PM
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Good news! I've now got my wheel bearings... let's just say they were in a garage in Des Moines, Iowa. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/idea.gif)
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post May 29 2005, 06:47 PM
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Oh no...let's say more. Let's say how wonderful your toolwench is for driving six hours round trip to bring you your wheel bearings after allowing you to store them in her garage for years....

On the bright side - there were lots of yellow flags in the NASCAR race so I'm home in plenty of time to watch the finish.

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post May 29 2005, 06:54 PM
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