Over Flow Tank and Charcoal Canister 914-6 |
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Over Flow Tank and Charcoal Canister 914-6 |
Mike Fitton |
Oct 12 2017, 07:40 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 609 Joined: 13-May 11 From: Chicago Area Member No.: 13,069 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
I have researched on this forum for a couple of days trying to figure out if the 914-6 came with an expansion tank and charcoal canister, I do not have either on my '70 # 2604. My 6 has the brackets for the expansion tank so that seems logical but I have seen a lot of posts saying the 6's did not have a canister, does anyone have an original 6 that could comment on this. Thanks!
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SirAndy |
Oct 12 2017, 07:43 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,894 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
No canister on a '70 /6 ...
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Mike Fitton |
Oct 12 2017, 08:18 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 609 Joined: 13-May 11 From: Chicago Area Member No.: 13,069 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
So no canister then does the expansion hose just route out through the bottom of the car? |
toolguy |
Oct 12 2017, 08:54 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,275 Joined: 2-April 11 From: San Diego / El Cajon Member No.: 12,889 Region Association: Southern California |
I say wrong, Mine has a metal expansion tank and the metal charcoal canister. .
It's shown in the factory parts manual for 914-6 section 2-1 item 15 and 31. . same part number used on the early 4 cylinder as the 6. . |
SirAndy |
Oct 12 2017, 09:04 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,894 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
I say wrong, Mine has a metal expansion tank and the metal charcoal canister. . It's shown in the factory parts manual for 914-6 section 2-1 item 15 and 31. . same part number used on the early 4 cylinder as the 6. . I know of several unmolested '70 /6 that never had the charcoal canister ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif) |
johnhora |
Oct 12 2017, 09:18 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 873 Joined: 7-January 03 From: Derby City KY Member No.: 107 Region Association: None |
Mike..
Yes the hose from the expansion tank vents/goes to the over flow hose and attaches via a plastic adapter. 1970 914-6 expansion tank no charcoal canister 1..side view 2..top view John |
Socalandy |
Oct 12 2017, 09:26 PM
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Its got to be Yellow!!! Group: Members Posts: 2,432 Joined: 29-August 09 From: Orange Member No.: 10,742 Region Association: Southern California |
I’ve seen 70 -6’s with and without vapor recovery/charcoal cans. My didn’t have one and was also missing the two holes in the inner fender for the lines leading back to the engine compartment. Based on that and seeing many original cars I believe that is the deciding factor. I can post pictures showing original 1970 -6’s with and without if you’d like
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Cairo94507 |
Oct 12 2017, 09:46 PM
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Michael Group: Members Posts: 10,094 Joined: 1-November 08 From: Auburn, CA Member No.: 9,712 Region Association: Northern California |
My '71 had both and will have both again when reassembled. Sorry about the pictures size. I am a photo-sizing idiot. I just can't figure out how to reduce the size of the pictures.....why does Apple have to make it so hard? Or in the alternative, why is it that I am so stupid when it comes to this stuff?
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pete000 |
Oct 12 2017, 09:46 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,885 Joined: 23-August 10 From: Bradenton Florida Member No.: 12,094 Region Association: South East States |
My six was built in January 1970 and hs both.
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Cairo94507 |
Oct 12 2017, 09:52 PM
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Michael Group: Members Posts: 10,094 Joined: 1-November 08 From: Auburn, CA Member No.: 9,712 Region Association: Northern California |
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Cairo94507 |
Oct 12 2017, 09:53 PM
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Michael Group: Members Posts: 10,094 Joined: 1-November 08 From: Auburn, CA Member No.: 9,712 Region Association: Northern California |
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mepstein |
Oct 13 2017, 05:40 AM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,596 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
I've seen early 6's without and later with. One of the early ones was an origional owner who didn't change anything - ever- on his car. So I think it is one of those rolling changes from Porsche.
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gereed75 |
Oct 13 2017, 05:40 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,310 Joined: 19-March 13 From: Pittsburgh PA Member No.: 15,674 Region Association: North East States |
Mine is #379. Don't got neither. Original as far as I know. Hose looks original and routed out the bottom.
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mskala |
Oct 13 2017, 06:27 AM
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R Group: Members Posts: 1,926 Joined: 2-January 03 From: Massachusetts Member No.: 79 Region Association: None |
My early '70 does not seem to have ever had the charcoal canister.
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Jasfsmith |
Oct 13 2017, 06:37 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 556 Joined: 4-October 04 From: Bangor, ME Member No.: 2,882 Region Association: North East States |
My Euro 6 had neither. The brackets for the expansion tank are present though the paint condition would indicate that no tank was ever installed.
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Mike Fitton |
Oct 13 2017, 08:00 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 609 Joined: 13-May 11 From: Chicago Area Member No.: 13,069 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
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mountainroads |
Oct 13 2017, 08:35 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 210 Joined: 19-February 12 From: Seattle Member No.: 14,145 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Mine is #379. Don't got neither. Original as far as I know. Hose looks original and routed out the bottom. Same here (other than the VIN, obviously). I've owned two. One very original and the other not quite. Both 1970 and neither had the charcoal cannister. Just the overflow drain out the bottom. As others have noted - it seems to be one of those inconsistent things. Not an early-late or California-rest of country item. - MR |
gms |
Oct 13 2017, 09:27 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,706 Joined: 12-March 04 From: Chicagoland Member No.: 1,785 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
I cannot say for sure one way or another but I can give you examples of canisters installed on later 1970 914/6. I cannot tell you if they were installed by the factory.
I think looking at the overflow down tube and looking for the holes for hoses to the back will give you and idea about what was there. 914 043 2312 914 043 2317 914 043 2357 914 043 2567 914 043 2591 914 043 2664 |
IronHillRestorations |
Oct 13 2017, 10:12 AM
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I. I. R. C. Group: Members Posts: 6,777 Joined: 18-March 03 From: West TN Member No.: 439 Region Association: None |
All the un-touched 6's I've seen have had charcoal vapor cans
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gms |
Oct 13 2017, 10:58 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,706 Joined: 12-March 04 From: Chicagoland Member No.: 1,785 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
Doing a little research and thinking about the system the answer is simple, if you have the hoses that go back to the air cleaner in the engine compartment it was probably installed
An installation requires holes in the front trunk and under the relay board in the engine compartment. Here is an illustration from the shop manuals, air is circulated from the fan to the canister then it pushes fumes to the air cleaner on the engine. I know this is a diagram of a 4 cylinder car but the concept is the same for a six. |
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