Challenge to anyone who knows-Still struggling with turn signals, cancel ring tab, turn signal operation Options

[mzalanka]

I guess I wasn't clear enough, when the wheel is on the car the tab is at 3 o'clock, when it's upside down in your lap and you are attaching the ring it's 9 o'clock. Does that make sense?

Yup, guess I have it right after all. Appreciate the clarification. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif)

[domer914]

okay. I'm certain that in my original post I explained that I am an idiot. If I were inclined I would have explained how I always spend twice the time and twice the money that anyone would who is NOT an idiot. I learn all my lessons the hard and expensive way, it seems.

Anyway, my right signal would not cancel. My parts were old, and I decided to buy new washer arm and new turn signal stalk.

So I dick around with the wiper arm and end up breaking plastic pieces on it as I attempt to adapt it to my car (it was not identical to the one pulled off my car). So I decide to marry the new turn signal arm to the old wiper arm.

I hook it up. Horn doesn't work. It worked before. Signal still does not cancel. Furthermore, my wife calls me at work and she says she thinks the right rear brake light is on on my 914. I rush out of the office, get home and disconnect the wiring harness to the two stalks and the light goes out. Hook a trickle charger to the battery just in case, and I return to work.

Tonight I decide to ditch the new part and re-install the old parts.

Everything works. Turn signals cancel. Problem solved. No net changes (except perhaps the location of the cancelling tab on the wheel). $130 spent and probably 4 hours of my time. And I have essentially ruined $70 of the parts I acquired.

sigh.

sigh again.

I am grateful to the forum for all the input. It was helpful, and inspirational. People like me need inspiration.

[TheCabinetmaker]

I'm extremely pleased that you got it fixed, and even more pleased you published the end result. However, that does beg the question. In case I missed it before, why did you change the assembly to begin with?

[domer914]

I'm extremely pleased that you got it fixed, and even more pleased you published the end result. However, that does beg the question. In case I missed it before, why did you change the assembly to begin with?

You mean besides the idiot part?

I had the car blasted, metal work done, painted, engine and tranny rebuilt, and much of the interior replaced. The signal would not cancel, and my parts looked old. I had the wheel refurbished--it looks brand new, and the stalks just looked old. So I used the fact that the signal would not cancel on right turns as an excuse to light fire to money, something I have down to a science.

All that crap happened, or really I made all that crap happen, and here I am.

Usually when I "fix" something, I'm left wondering how it happened that I "fixed" it. This is one of those times, except I believe it was probably a poorly positioned cancel tab on the wheel hub. One of the posters here believed it needed to rest at 3 o'clock, and that was a position I don't think i had tried because that placed it right over the white signal tab. Alas, it must have worked.

I would prefer new parts, but now I'm afraid to try again, and the replacement parts are not identical to the originals. I am not good enough to make the proper alterations, I guess.

[theer]

Furthermore, my wife calls me at work and she says she thinks the right rear brake light is on on my 914. I rush out of the office, get home and disconnect the wiring harness to the two stalks and the light goes out. Hook a trickle charger to the battery just in case, and I return to work.

On my car, if I put turn signal switch in the "on" position with the key out, that side's lights (front & rear) stay on. It's very common on cars in Germany - & probably other countries - to have street-side-only parking lights on narrow side streets.

[mepstein]

Furthermore, my wife calls me at work and she says she thinks the right rear brake light is on on my 914. I rush out of the office, get home and disconnect the wiring harness to the two stalks and the light goes out. Hook a trickle charger to the battery just in case, and I return to work.

On my car, if I put turn signal switch in the "on" position with the key out, that side's lights (front & rear) stay on. It's very common on cars in Germany - & probably other countries - to have street-side-only parking lights on narrow side streets.

Yes. It’s on all 914’s.

[mepstein]

I'm extremely pleased that you got it fixed, and even more pleased you published the end result. However, that does beg the question. In case I missed it before, why did you change the assembly to begin with?

You mean besides the idiot part?

I had the car blasted, metal work done, painted, engine and tranny rebuilt, and much of the interior replaced. The signal would not cancel, and my parts looked old. I had the wheel refurbished--it looks brand new, and the stalks just looked old. So I used the fact that the signal would not cancel on right turns as an excuse to light fire to money, something I have down to a science.

All that crap happened, or really I made all that crap happen, and here I am.

Usually when I "fix" something, I'm left wondering how it happened that I "fixed" it. This is one of those times, except I believe it was probably a poorly positioned cancel tab on the wheel hub. One of the posters here believed it needed to rest at 3 o'clock, and that was a position I don't think i had tried because that placed it right over the white signal tab. Alas, it must have worked.

I would prefer new parts, but now I'm afraid to try again, and the replacement parts are not identical to the originals. I am not good enough to make the proper alterations, I guess.

Fixed is fixed. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

Put the new parts aside in case you have to go revisit in the future.

[domer914]

Furthermore, my wife calls me at work and she says she thinks the right rear brake light is on on my 914. I rush out of the office, get home and disconnect the wiring harness to the two stalks and the light goes out. Hook a trickle charger to the battery just in case, and I return to work.

On my car, if I put turn signal switch in the "on" position with the key out, that side's lights (front & rear) stay on. It's very common on cars in Germany - & probably other countries - to have street-side-only parking lights on narrow side streets.

Yes. It’s on all 914’s.

This is good information, and it supports my idiot theory. Just so you know, you guys cannot make me feel more inept. This is a great forum!

[Dave_Darling]

okay. I'm certain that in my original post I explained that I am an idiot. If I were inclined I would have explained how I always spend twice the time and twice the money that anyone would who is NOT an idiot. I learn all my lessons the hard and expensive way, it seems.

Do that for a few more years, then decide that everyone else can benefit from your opinions and experiences, and you can be a bona-fide 914 Expert!

... Welcome to the club, Domer. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

--DD

[domer914]

Furthermore, my wife calls me at work and she says she thinks the right rear brake light is on on my 914. I rush out of the office, get home and disconnect the wiring harness to the two stalks and the light goes out. Hook a trickle charger to the battery just in case, and I return to work.

On my car, if I put turn signal switch in the "on" position with the key out, that side's lights (front & rear) stay on. It's very common on cars in Germany - & probably other countries - to have street-side-only parking lights on narrow side streets.

Yes. It’s on all 914’s.

As it turns out, this is actually NOT the case on my car. No idea what makes the difference, of course.

[76-914]

Occasionally one of these NOS OEM turn signal assemblies pops up in the classifieds here. Usually about 100-135 a pop. Keep an eye out and grab one when one when it becomes available. FWIW, I believe everyone here has been made to feel an idiot, one time or another, by their 914. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

[76-914]

Occasionally one of these NOS OEM turn signal assemblies pops up in the classifieds here. Usually about 100-135 a pop. Keep an eye out and grab one when one when it becomes available. FWIW, I believe everyone here has been made to feel an idiot, one time or another, by their 914. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

[Larmo63]

If it works and you don't really know how you it got fixed, go burn sage at your 914 altar and say three "Hail Ferrys."

What? You don't have a 914 altar?

That may be the problem.......

[domer914]

If it works and you don't really know how you it got fixed, go burn sage at your 914 altar and say three "Hail Ferrys."

What? You don't have a 914 altar?

That may be the problem.......

I think a 914 altar is the same as my wife's checkbook. At least that's what it FEELS like.