 3.2 Conversion - outlaw Street and track car project, (Was “Would you do This 1400 mile road trip?) |
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| Unpretentious |
 Jul 24 2018, 10:46 AM
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Member  Group: Members Posts: 164 Joined: 23-June 14 From: Calif. Central Valley Member No.: 17,532 Region Association: Central California 
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| davehg |
Feb 2 2020, 08:56 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 205 Joined: 19-September 17 From: PNW Member No.: 21,443 Region Association: Pacific Northwest
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It's been a while since I posted on the black car after this trip. About six months ago, the transmission started getting really difficult to shift, and I decided the black car was due for its engine rebuild at the same time, as it was smoking at idle.
Out came the engine and transmission. It was filthy.\ (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i.imgur.com-21443-1580698606.1.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i.imgur.com-21443-1580698606.2.jpg) Heads were filthy and valves nicely carbonized. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i.imgur.com-21443-1580698606.3.jpg) The harness to the ECU was a spaghetti nest of wires and various parts butt crimped. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i.imgur.com-21443-1580698606.4.jpg) |
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| davehg |
Feb 2 2020, 09:12 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 205 Joined: 19-September 17 From: PNW Member No.: 21,443 Region Association: Pacific Northwest
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The transmission was cracked open. The gears and synchros were almost new, but the bushings were shot, and the shift rod was a home brew from the prior owner, who also put in a super short 5th gear. We put a tall 5th gear in, and added the Tangerine Racing shift kit. No slop!
(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i.imgur.com-21443-1580699562.1.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i.imgur.com-21443-1580699562.2.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i.imgur.com-21443-1580699562.3.jpg) Axles were cleaned and bearings repacked (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i.imgur.com-21443-1580699563.4.jpg) Soldered back the ends on the rats nest of wires to the ECU, so now everything is stock. Put back together and it's ready to bolt in next week...after we replace the ugly autometer tach with a 914-6 NOS one. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i.imgur.com-21443-1580699563.6.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i.imgur.com-21443-1580699563.7.jpg) |
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| RickS |
Feb 2 2020, 09:50 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,408 Joined: 17-April 06 From: 'False City', WA Member No.: 5,880 Region Association: None |
Dave, I have been to that shop. Grab your parts (no not Those parts) and get the he!! Out of there. Only bad things, like more horse power and reliability, will be the result. Now you can grab Those parts.
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| davehg |
Feb 2 2020, 09:53 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 205 Joined: 19-September 17 From: PNW Member No.: 21,443 Region Association: Pacific Northwest
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QUOTE(RickS @ Feb 2 2020, 07:50 PM)  Dave, I have been to that shop. Grab your parts (no not Those parts) and get the he!! Out of there. Only bad things, like more horse power and reliability, will be the result. Now you can grab Those parts. The only thing I have left to lose is my retirement account.... You should come over when we fire up the black car. I'll ring you. |
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| RickS |
Feb 2 2020, 11:25 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,408 Joined: 17-April 06 From: 'False City', WA Member No.: 5,880 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(davehg @ Feb 2 2020, 07:53 PM) QUOTE(RickS @ Feb 2 2020, 07:50 PM) Dave, I have been to that shop. Grab your parts (no not Those parts) and get the he!! Out of there. Only bad things, like more horse power and reliability, will be the result. Now you can grab Those parts. The only thing I have left to lose is my retirement account.... You should come over when we fire up the black car. I'll ring you. I am counting on it. I will get my boat ready. |
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| davehg |
Mar 5 2020, 09:28 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 205 Joined: 19-September 17 From: PNW Member No.: 21,443 Region Association: Pacific Northwest
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Woohoo! Engine and transmission are back in the car!
(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i.imgur.com-21443-1583465289.1.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i.imgur.com-21443-1583465289.2.jpg) Wiring still needs some clean up - so many odd things were found and corrected. Now to tackle the dash. I didn't want to pretty this up too much - that's for my 2.7 conversion, and anything I do to "pretty up" this outlaw makes other parts look worse. So I decided what was needed was to convert the ugly dash, first by swapping the oversize autometer tach with a stock 914-6 tack, then remove the racer boy push starter in favor of a proper keyed ignition, and replace the tacked on metal faceplates with a full aluminum dash face, which will be brushed once the gauges and switches are finished. Started with this: (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i.imgur.com-21443-1583465589.1.jpg) Made into this: (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i.imgur.com-21443-1583465289.3.jpg) Installed gauges: (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i.imgur.com-21443-1583465289.5.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i.imgur.com-21443-1583465289.6.jpg) I'm on the fence about doing the glove box or leaving it out, but I think I will have it cut in. Switches come in next, then stock gauges go back in, then finish off carpet kit. I decided to keep the "pony keg" which is not really needed here in the PNW, but it was in the car and I can't see spending another $1k for a tank and fittings when what I already have works great. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i.imgur.com-21443-1583466766.1.jpg) |
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| davehg |
Apr 1 2020, 01:50 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 205 Joined: 19-September 17 From: PNW Member No.: 21,443 Region Association: Pacific Northwest
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Finished up the dash. I had a large blank spot where the heater controls and ashtray once were, and it looked pretty bland. Watched some older videos of 914 rally cars and decided a set of vintage Heuer track stop watches would be a fun touch, so on they went. Note the glove box - decided it would be helpful to have.
(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i.imgur.com-21443-1585770620.1.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i.imgur.com-21443-1585770620.2.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i.imgur.com-21443-1585770620.3.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i.imgur.com-21443-1585770620.4.jpg) And now I have functioning turn signals, high and low beams, and wiring for the fog lights, plus all the switches were upgraded and all the lights for them and the gauges work! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i.imgur.com-21443-1585770621.5.jpg) Oil tank and lines were finished. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i.imgur.com-21443-1585770621.6.jpg) Engine fired up and it was awesome to hear it come to life again! Ben's GT muffler didn't seem as loud (didn't get a chance to drive it, only fire it up). I wonder if the cerra coat made things quieter. Will be interesting to see when I drive it, but damn his GT muffler looks great. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i.imgur.com-21443-1585770621.7.jpg) Thanks to 914Rubber, I have a complete door seal kit and was able to use the early glass off my other conversion project, which uses later doors. I now have a functioning set of windows!! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i.imgur.com-21443-1585770621.8.jpg) |
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| davehg |
Jan 16 2022, 12:40 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 205 Joined: 19-September 17 From: PNW Member No.: 21,443 Region Association: Pacific Northwest
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Lots of goodness with the Outlaw. I’m having the roll cage altered for better ingress, and finally upgraded the seats to something more period correct. Will also have an access panel cut for the firewall.
(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i.imgur.com-21443-1642315226.1.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i.imgur.com-21443-1642315226.2.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i.imgur.com-21443-1642315226.3.jpg) He’s looking pretty good (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i.imgur.com-21443-1642315287.1.jpg) |
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| Mayne |
Jan 16 2022, 07:06 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 254 Joined: 28-February 17 From: NM Member No.: 20,880 Region Association: None |
Car looks great, and what a fantastic read with my morning coffee!
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| Cairo94507 |
Jan 16 2022, 09:06 AM
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Michael Group: Members Posts: 10,204 Joined: 1-November 08 From: Auburn, CA Member No.: 9,712 Region Association: Northern California
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Wow, major improvements. Car is looking good and must drive great. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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| infraredcalvin |
Jan 16 2022, 11:41 PM
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Distracted Member Group: Members Posts: 1,593 Joined: 25-August 08 From: Ladera Ranch, CA Member No.: 9,463 Region Association: Southern California
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Looking great! Keep it coming!
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| Shivers |
Jan 17 2022, 12:16 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2,909 Joined: 19-October 20 From: La Quinta, CA Member No.: 24,781 Region Association: Southern California |
That's a beauty, and a beast, it just oozes fun. Nice job
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| davehg |
Feb 19 2023, 09:21 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 205 Joined: 19-September 17 From: PNW Member No.: 21,443 Region Association: Pacific Northwest
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It’s been a while since the last update. I decided to clean up the interior and found some grey perlon carpet. Also tired of the yoga poses I needed to strike just to enter and exit. So I had the roll bars reshaped on the sides and installed a rear harness bar, and had an access bay installed to the engine to make belt changes a bit easier. I scored a set of GTS seats that looked much better and were way more comfy than the aging Momo shells.
(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i.imgur.com-21443-1676820069.1.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i.imgur.com-21443-1676820070.2.jpg) The carpet kit turned out great, and I sourced some coin rubber mats to keep the floor from getting tatty and also give some grip. Since this is a street focused car, I also decided to wrap the roll bar surfaces with two piece safety pads to protect my head and arms. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i.imgur.com-21443-1676820228.1.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i.imgur.com-21443-1676820070.3.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i.imgur.com-21443-1676820070.4.jpg) The oil keg also spring a pinhole leak, and I had challenges getting the engine oil up to temp, so I had the thermostat replaced with an adjustable trout an unit and the tank welded tight. Works great and I’m seeing about 180-195 on average days. What’s left? The car looks great, and I’ve waffled on whether to paint or wrap. I chanced upon a set of OEM Porsche GT flares, but I love the look of the riveted flares, so I’m keeping them in case I damage the composite flares and then I’ll go whole hog on the full flare package. Until then, I’m likely to swap to a quieter GT muffler, but calling the car officially done for now. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i.imgur.com-21443-1676820070.5.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i.imgur.com-21443-1676820070.6.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i.imgur.com-21443-1676820070.7.jpg) Next up? Finishing the 2.7 twin plug conversion, which is in the home stretch. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i.imgur.com-21443-1676820741.1.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i.imgur.com-21443-1676820742.2.jpg) |
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| davehg |
Feb 19 2023, 10:07 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 205 Joined: 19-September 17 From: PNW Member No.: 21,443 Region Association: Pacific Northwest
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Epilogue
My oldest son and I still talk about this trip. He’s headed off to college, and my hope is to gift him the black car one day after he graduates and when he’s settled in and has a place to store and work on it. I had no idea when I first bought the black car that the journey would kick off another adventure, this time with his brother. My youngest son didn’t seem to be super interested in cars until about a year ago. But I think he’s always been a little envious of when I talk about the trip with his brother, sensing that we did something really special that will always be in our memory. So last April, I got the chance to give him a similar adventure. My pal who found me the black car found a mint, one owner silver 1974 911s, with a recently rebuilt, numbers matching engine and tranny. It was originally Harvey Weidman’s dealer demo, and Harvey sold it to the first owner, who loved it until he passed last year. Just like last time, I flew down to the desert, this time with my younger son, and we picked up the car and did a variation of the route I had done with his brother told in the first post. The drive was epic! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i.imgur.com-21443-1676822834.1.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i.imgur.com-21443-1676822835.2.jpg) A 911 is a far more comfy ride than the 914, but the trip was no less special for him. You can’t do a 1600 mile trip in an air cooled car and not finish that journey without being forever changed about how you think about cars. After we returned from the trip, he became a complete car nut, and he’s constantly bugging me to attend car shows, and go on rides. We recently attended a Radwood show, and on the way home we stopped by the BMW dealer and quickly spied a mint, one owner 1989 E30 that the owner was trying to trade in on a new BMW. She had the car originally delivered new in Europe, shipped it to the US, and had lovingly kept it 34 years. I offered her a better deal than the lowball offer from the dealer, and my kid’s eyes got bigger when he realized it was for him! He’s headed off to the Navy soon, and I figured this would be a great project when he lands at a base, to get him wrenching. We’ve already done a complete brake job, clutch cylinder, and radio install, and he’s learned to drive stick smoothly (also saving the Porsches from premature clutch wear). (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i.imgur.com-21443-1676822835.3.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i.imgur.com-21443-1676822835.4.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i.imgur.com-21443-1676822835.5.jpg) |
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| rhodyguy |
Feb 19 2023, 10:21 AM
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Chimp Sanctuary NW. Check it out. Group: Members Posts: 22,222 Joined: 2-March 03 From: Orion's Bell. The BELL! Member No.: 378 Region Association: Galt's Gulch |
Mad skills. Super job. I would not be brave enough to tackle this project.
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| davehg |
Nov 11 2023, 05:15 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 205 Joined: 19-September 17 From: PNW Member No.: 21,443 Region Association: Pacific Northwest
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I finally got around to swapping the muffler for a Dansk Sport Muffler. Ben's GT muffler looked the business, but I couldn't shake a persistent 2-3k rpm drone, and it was more aggressive tone than I wanted.
My son (and my fellow RGruppe pals) thought it sounded awesome, but missus didn't want to accompany me. OK then. Dansk makes two types of sport 2 in/2out mufflers and this one is the basic one. The higher end one costs quite a bit more and is also louder (and has wider diameter exit pipes. I love the look of the higher end one, but the goal here was to make it less loud. I had the Dansk cera-coated to match the headers and manage the heat. I also added a rear valence, makes it look more balanced. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i.imgur.com-21443-1699744530.1.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i.imgur.com-21443-1699744531.2.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i.imgur.com-21443-1699744531.3.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i.imgur.com-21443-1699744531.4.jpg) |
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