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Lock rekey part source? |
mepstein |
Sep 26 2019, 06:16 PM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,518 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
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914forme |
Sep 26 2019, 06:30 PM
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Times a wastin', get wrenchin'! Group: Members Posts: 3,896 Joined: 24-July 04 From: Dayton, Ohio Member No.: 2,388 Region Association: None |
Do you have a complete set of wafers? They could be reverse engineered, get the sheet in the proper thickness and just run them through a water jet, or laser cutter.
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mepstein |
Sep 26 2019, 06:55 PM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,518 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Do you have a complete set of wafers? They could be reverse engineered, get the sheet in the proper thickness and just run them through a water jet, or laser cutter. I like that idea but I only needed a couple. If someone does want to do it, I now have new ones to copy. I believe they are the same as 911 wafers. Seems like a no-brainer for 914rubber. @mikey914 |
Mikey914 |
Sep 26 2019, 11:09 PM
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The rubber man Group: Members Posts: 12,711 Joined: 27-December 04 From: Hillsboro, OR Member No.: 3,348 Region Association: None |
Ok,
Tweet has mentioned that he wants these also, so yes I will do these. Mark |
simonjb |
Oct 5 2019, 10:14 AM
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KiwiMan Group: Members Posts: 563 Joined: 18-October 16 From: Stamford, Connecticut Member No.: 20,505 Region Association: North East States |
I thought this might help others. Stupidly I sent my locks and only key to Tweets/Dan who never returned them. So I found some new door locks and wanted to align everything to the same key code. I removed the ignition tumbler and the wafers and emailed a picture of my wafers from the ignition in the correct order. See picture for sequence.
They decoded the wafers from the emailed picture and sent me back the correct Porsche key code (HPXXX to protect the innocent) along with new wafers and the correct sequence plus 3 new keys. This is for a 911, but I am sure its the same process Make sure key is in when you pull out the Tumbler Then remove and pull out existing wafers I have shown how the numbering sequence works If I ever need a new key I now have the correct Porsche code |
simonjb |
Oct 5 2019, 10:17 AM
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KiwiMan Group: Members Posts: 563 Joined: 18-October 16 From: Stamford, Connecticut Member No.: 20,505 Region Association: North East States |
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simonjb |
Oct 5 2019, 10:23 AM
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KiwiMan Group: Members Posts: 563 Joined: 18-October 16 From: Stamford, Connecticut Member No.: 20,505 Region Association: North East States |
You can see the small springs and also the wafer number number on the wafer.
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Rob-O |
Oct 5 2019, 02:35 PM
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914Sixer |
Oct 5 2019, 05:20 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 8,989 Joined: 17-January 05 From: San Angelo Texas Member No.: 3,457 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Please BEWARE NOT ALL Locks have Numbered wafers
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mepstein |
Oct 5 2019, 05:52 PM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,518 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Please BEWARE NOT ALL Locks have Numbered wafers (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) almost none of mine were numbered so I measured the lower tab on each one and posted it on my pic. With the measurements, you can easily measure them yourself and put them in numbered containers. Attached image(s) |
aharder |
Oct 5 2019, 06:32 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,511 Joined: 6-September 11 From: Dallas Texas Member No.: 13,524 Region Association: Southwest Region |
So I went and looked in my key stuff and I found one of these.
As you can see, I measure 1 side and it measures as a 4, the other measure as a 3. Who can tell us what this one is? I have 2 on them in my stash. |
bbrock |
Oct 5 2019, 06:44 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,269 Joined: 17-February 17 From: Montana Member No.: 20,845 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
So I went and looked in my key stuff and I found one of these. As you can see, I measure 1 side and it measures as a 4, the other measure as a 3. Who can tell us what this one is? I have 2 on them in my stash. That's a valet wafer. There should be one of those in each trunk lock and the glove box lock. It doesn't matter what position it goes in. It just replaces any random wafer. With the valet wafer in place, the black key will open the lock but the red (valet) key will not. |
914forme |
Oct 6 2019, 06:49 PM
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Times a wastin', get wrenchin'! Group: Members Posts: 3,896 Joined: 24-July 04 From: Dayton, Ohio Member No.: 2,388 Region Association: None |
If doing the production run you could laser etch the number in. At least it would help you when you get them mixed up before assembly. Depending on the wear location, it might not be there when you disassemble hopefully never.
the numbers in the pictures look struck, and I am guessing from the small raised section, the tolerances are not that critical. I would not want to be the poor soul who struck each one of those day in day out. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/screwy.gif) I would just use a markzalls and be done (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) |
Rob-O |
Oct 6 2019, 08:37 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,253 Joined: 5-December 03 From: Mansfield, TX Member No.: 1,419 Region Association: Southwest Region |
So I went and looked in my key stuff and I found one of these. As you can see, I measure 1 side and it measures as a 4, the other measure as a 3. Who can tell us what this one is? I have 2 on them in my stash. That's a valet wafer. There should be one of those in each trunk lock and the glove box lock. It doesn't matter what position it goes in. It just replaces any random wafer. With the valet wafer in place, the black key will open the lock but the red (valet) key will not. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) That’s exactly what that is. |
frostyf |
Nov 21 2019, 10:11 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 155 Joined: 27-March 14 From: VA 23455 Member No.: 17,168 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Hi All,
Not sure if 914 Rubber is going ahead with a run of the wafers? I'm trying to redo my barrels as my key only turns the ignition barrel. I must have replaced barrels (or complete doors) on my car and on the valet locks in the Front trunk pull and glovebox lock. After looking at an add on Parts Geek for new fuel tanks (was in the garage section) I spotted they also sell replacement ignition switches with two keys. Does anyone know if these have the same wafers in them and whether I might get enough spare wafers to sort out my existing barrels if I buy one - they're selling for either $12.95 (part no 17030-02554631) or a Febi/Bilstein one at $14.98 (part no W0133-1635820). Does anyone know if they're the same size as the wafers in the originals - wonder whether to take a punt and buy one to try it out. |
frostyf |
Nov 21 2019, 10:19 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 155 Joined: 27-March 14 From: VA 23455 Member No.: 17,168 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
I thought this might help others. Stupidly I sent my locks and only key to Tweets/Dan who never returned them. So I found some new door locks and wanted to align everything to the same key code. I removed the ignition tumbler and the wafers and emailed a picture of my wafers from the ignition in the correct order. See picture for sequence. They decoded the wafers from the emailed picture and sent me back the correct Porsche key code (HPXXX to protect the innocent) along with new wafers and the correct sequence plus 3 new keys. This is for a 911, but I am sure its the same process Make sure key is in when you pull out the Tumbler Then remove and pull out existing wafers I have shown how the numbering sequence works If I ever need a new key I now have the correct Porsche code Hi, What was the cost for the new wafers/tumblers?? I spotted further down the company Keys4Classics.com. Do you know if the wafers are the same as the original Porsche ones (in terms of thickness)?? |
914Sixer |
Nov 22 2019, 08:19 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 8,989 Joined: 17-January 05 From: San Angelo Texas Member No.: 3,457 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Hard to say about replacement ignition lock wafers. VW and Porsche early wafers are NOT interchangeable.
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TheCabinetmaker |
Nov 22 2019, 08:34 AM
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I drive my car everyday Group: Members Posts: 8,309 Joined: 8-May 03 From: Tulsa, Ok. Member No.: 666 |
914 and 911 share the same wafers. Vw wafers will not work. Too big. The kits shown on the eBay post appear to be the proper wafers. You might need to file the wafers if you have an old worn out key. I try to use a new cut key for rekeying. Not all wafers are marked. My service includes complete disassembly, cleaning, replacement of questionable or worn parts, and proper non oil based lubrication.
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frostyf |
Nov 25 2019, 10:32 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 155 Joined: 27-March 14 From: VA 23455 Member No.: 17,168 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
914 and 911 share the same wafers. Vw wafers will not work. Too big. The kits shown on the eBay post appear to be the proper wafers. You might need to file the wafers if you have an old worn out key. I try to use a new cut key for rekeying. Not all wafers are marked. My service includes complete disassembly, cleaning, replacement of questionable or worn parts, and proper non oil based lubrication. Hi Curtis, I've sussed out my wafer coding and wanted to ask how much you charge for your services. Will check to see if you're in the vendors forum now. I'd like to try and do this myself but its getting hands on some spare wafers. At the minute I need a no 4 but also need to check my other lock barrels. Thanks, Nick |
TheCabinetmaker |
Nov 26 2019, 07:54 AM
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I drive my car everyday Group: Members Posts: 8,309 Joined: 8-May 03 From: Tulsa, Ok. Member No.: 666 |
Pm sent, Nick
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