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mepstein
post Sep 26 2019, 06:16 PM
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QUOTE(type2man @ Sep 26 2019, 08:07 PM) *

If you have extra wafers but do not have the correct numbers, you can file down the wafers to make them work. You can either file the by hand, or install the key and file the excess to make it work in the cylinder.

That works but is the wrong way to do it.
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post Sep 26 2019, 06:30 PM
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Do you have a complete set of wafers? They could be reverse engineered, get the sheet in the proper thickness and just run them through a water jet, or laser cutter.
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post Sep 26 2019, 06:55 PM
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QUOTE(914forme @ Sep 26 2019, 08:30 PM) *

Do you have a complete set of wafers? They could be reverse engineered, get the sheet in the proper thickness and just run them through a water jet, or laser cutter.

I like that idea but I only needed a couple. If someone does want to do it, I now have new ones to copy. I believe they are the same as 911 wafers. Seems like a no-brainer for 914rubber. @mikey914
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post Sep 26 2019, 11:09 PM
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Ok,
Tweet has mentioned that he wants these also, so yes I will do these.
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post Oct 5 2019, 10:14 AM
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I thought this might help others. Stupidly I sent my locks and only key to Tweets/Dan who never returned them. So I found some new door locks and wanted to align everything to the same key code. I removed the ignition tumbler and the wafers and emailed a picture of my wafers from the ignition in the correct order. See picture for sequence.

They decoded the wafers from the emailed picture and sent me back the correct Porsche key code (HPXXX to protect the innocent) along with new wafers and the correct sequence plus 3 new keys. This is for a 911, but I am sure its the same process

Make sure key is in when you pull out the Tumbler
Then remove and pull out existing wafers
I have shown how the numbering sequence works

If I ever need a new key I now have the correct Porsche code

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post Oct 5 2019, 10:23 AM
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You can see the small springs and also the wafer number number on the wafer.


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post Oct 5 2019, 02:35 PM
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QUOTE(type2man @ Sep 26 2019, 04:07 PM) *

If you have extra wafers but do not have the correct numbers, you can file down the wafers to make them work. You can either file the by hand, or install the key and file the excess to make it work in the cylinder.


Or just leave that wafer out.
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post Oct 5 2019, 05:20 PM
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Please BEWARE NOT ALL Locks have Numbered wafers
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post Oct 5 2019, 05:52 PM
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QUOTE(914Sixer @ Oct 5 2019, 07:20 PM) *

Please BEWARE NOT ALL Locks have Numbered wafers

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) almost none of mine were numbered so I measured the lower tab on each one and posted it on my pic. With the measurements, you can easily measure them yourself and put them in numbered containers.


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post Oct 5 2019, 06:32 PM
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So I went and looked in my key stuff and I found one of these.
As you can see, I measure 1 side and it measures as a 4, the other measure as a 3.
Who can tell us what this one is? I have 2 on them in my stash.



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post Oct 5 2019, 06:44 PM
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QUOTE(aharder @ Oct 5 2019, 06:32 PM) *

So I went and looked in my key stuff and I found one of these.
As you can see, I measure 1 side and it measures as a 4, the other measure as a 3.
Who can tell us what this one is? I have 2 on them in my stash.



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That's a valet wafer. There should be one of those in each trunk lock and the glove box lock. It doesn't matter what position it goes in. It just replaces any random wafer. With the valet wafer in place, the black key will open the lock but the red (valet) key will not.
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post Oct 6 2019, 06:49 PM
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If doing the production run you could laser etch the number in. At least it would help you when you get them mixed up before assembly. Depending on the wear location, it might not be there when you disassemble hopefully never.

the numbers in the pictures look struck, and I am guessing from the small raised section, the tolerances are not that critical.

I would not want to be the poor soul who struck each one of those day in day out. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/screwy.gif)

I would just use a markzalls and be done (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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QUOTE(bbrock @ Oct 5 2019, 04:44 PM) *

QUOTE(aharder @ Oct 5 2019, 06:32 PM) *

So I went and looked in my key stuff and I found one of these.
As you can see, I measure 1 side and it measures as a 4, the other measure as a 3.
Who can tell us what this one is? I have 2 on them in my stash.



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That's a valet wafer. There should be one of those in each trunk lock and the glove box lock. It doesn't matter what position it goes in. It just replaces any random wafer. With the valet wafer in place, the black key will open the lock but the red (valet) key will not.



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That’s exactly what that is.
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Hi All,
Not sure if 914 Rubber is going ahead with a run of the wafers? I'm trying to redo my barrels as my key only turns the ignition barrel. I must have replaced barrels (or complete doors) on my car and on the valet locks in the Front trunk pull and glovebox lock.

After looking at an add on Parts Geek for new fuel tanks (was in the garage section) I spotted they also sell replacement ignition switches with two keys. Does anyone know if these have the same wafers in them and whether I might get enough spare wafers to sort out my existing barrels if I buy one - they're selling for either $12.95 (part no 17030-02554631) or a Febi/Bilstein one at $14.98 (part no W0133-1635820).

Does anyone know if they're the same size as the wafers in the originals - wonder whether to take a punt and buy one to try it out.



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QUOTE(simonjb @ Oct 5 2019, 04:14 PM) *

I thought this might help others. Stupidly I sent my locks and only key to Tweets/Dan who never returned them. So I found some new door locks and wanted to align everything to the same key code. I removed the ignition tumbler and the wafers and emailed a picture of my wafers from the ignition in the correct order. See picture for sequence.

They decoded the wafers from the emailed picture and sent me back the correct Porsche key code (HPXXX to protect the innocent) along with new wafers and the correct sequence plus 3 new keys. This is for a 911, but I am sure its the same process

Make sure key is in when you pull out the Tumbler
Then remove and pull out existing wafers
I have shown how the numbering sequence works

If I ever need a new key I now have the correct Porsche code

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Hi,
What was the cost for the new wafers/tumblers?? I spotted further down the company Keys4Classics.com. Do you know if the wafers are the same as the original Porsche ones (in terms of thickness)??

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Hard to say about replacement ignition lock wafers. VW and Porsche early wafers are NOT interchangeable.
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post Nov 22 2019, 08:34 AM
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914 and 911 share the same wafers. Vw wafers will not work. Too big. The kits shown on the eBay post appear to be the proper wafers. You might need to file the wafers if you have an old worn out key. I try to use a new cut key for rekeying. Not all wafers are marked. My service includes complete disassembly, cleaning, replacement of questionable or worn parts, and proper non oil based lubrication.
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QUOTE(TheCabinetmaker @ Nov 22 2019, 02:34 PM) *

914 and 911 share the same wafers. Vw wafers will not work. Too big. The kits shown on the eBay post appear to be the proper wafers. You might need to file the wafers if you have an old worn out key. I try to use a new cut key for rekeying. Not all wafers are marked. My service includes complete disassembly, cleaning, replacement of questionable or worn parts, and proper non oil based lubrication.


Hi Curtis,
I've sussed out my wafer coding and wanted to ask how much you charge for your services. Will check to see if you're in the vendors forum now.

I'd like to try and do this myself but its getting hands on some spare wafers. At the minute I need a no 4 but also need to check my other lock barrels.

Thanks,
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