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bkrantz |
Aug 4 2022, 07:38 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 8,154 Joined: 3-August 19 From: SW Colorado Member No.: 23,343 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Here's what I ended with, pretty much on target. Tomorrow I will check everything one more time, and then go for a drive.
I would say that doing this alignment is not too hard, but takes time--and the right attitude. Attached thumbnail(s) |
Lilchopshop |
Aug 5 2022, 04:53 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 75 Joined: 17-February 20 From: New York Member No.: 23,932 Region Association: North East States |
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Puebloswatcop |
Aug 5 2022, 05:22 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,401 Joined: 27-December 14 From: Mineola, Texas Member No.: 18,258 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Thanks for sharing this process Bob. I know when the time comes I will follow your proceedure and hope I can get close. At least with your guidance I feel a bit more confident.
Never having done it before though I think I will head over to a Porsche authorized alignment shop to have them double check my work. |
Cairo94507 |
Aug 5 2022, 06:52 AM
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Michael Group: Members Posts: 10,095 Joined: 1-November 08 From: Auburn, CA Member No.: 9,712 Region Association: Northern California |
A Porsche authorized alignment shop may not get it done for you. You might be better served finding a shop that has been doing suspension and alignments for decades and sees old Porsches on a regular basis.
I just had my car aligned for the 3rd time. I finally feel like they got it right. I went to a 1-man shop where he has been doing suspension and alignments for about 40 years and was recommended by Holleran's Performance. Guy spent almost 4 hours on the car and it drives much nicer. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) |
bbrock |
Aug 5 2022, 01:22 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,269 Joined: 17-February 17 From: Montana Member No.: 20,845 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Nice work! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_pokal.gif)
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bkrantz |
Aug 5 2022, 08:03 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 8,154 Joined: 3-August 19 From: SW Colorado Member No.: 23,343 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Thanks, guys. My original goal was to get a rough alignment done, and then let a shop fine-tune it. But the local shop that has old Porsche experience, including 914s, could not get their wheel-mounted equipment to clear my front fender lips.
This second home effort was a chance to see how precise I could work, and what kind of results are possible. I did get another digital camber gauge to try, and an offer from a friend with other home alignment expertise. |
bkrantz |
Aug 5 2022, 08:06 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 8,154 Joined: 3-August 19 From: SW Colorado Member No.: 23,343 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
I checked the toe measurements and camber (with my old bubble gauge) one more time, then took down the strings. I put the fuel evaporation tank back on, and closed it all up.
I then uploaded a new file to the Megasquirt ECU, since I had too many pops and a few backfires when the engine spun down. Then time for a drive! Attached thumbnail(s) |
bkrantz |
Aug 5 2022, 08:34 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 8,154 Joined: 3-August 19 From: SW Colorado Member No.: 23,343 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
While driving I tried the brake pad bedding procedure recommended by PMB: accelerate to 60 mph, brake hard to 10 mph, repeat about 6 times, then drive without braking to cool things down.
A post-drive report: The brakes are better, but still a bit spongy and not at all "grabby" The car drives straight, with the steering wheel centered, and no wandering. It responds nicely to steering input, but I have to get used to manual steering again. I also have to get used to my whopping 125 hp (actually, at the altitude around here, more like 100 hp). Acceleration is, um, leisurely, but steady. With a new correct angle drive, the speedometer works but seems to read fast. My tires are within 1% of original diameter, so it must be internal to the gauge. No odometer function. I stopped for gas on the way home. The gauge indicated a bit more than 1/4 tank. I put in 6.5 gallons, and it read about 3/4, so it seems to work. |
SKL1 |
Aug 5 2022, 11:18 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,637 Joined: 19-February 11 From: north Scottsdale Member No.: 12,732 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
Get back to work Bob, I noticed a speck of dust on a lower A arm on one of the pictures... we have standards here you know!
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Puebloswatcop |
Aug 6 2022, 07:38 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,401 Joined: 27-December 14 From: Mineola, Texas Member No.: 18,258 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Bob, I am impressed with the allignment you did. Maybe I'll just bring my car to you when it is time. If you are worried about the liesurely acceleration, you can always bring it down here to east Texas where we can give it a test drive for both acceleration and handling......lol
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930cabman |
Aug 6 2022, 02:27 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,701 Joined: 12-November 20 From: Buffalo Member No.: 24,877 Region Association: North East States |
While driving I tried the brake pad bedding procedure recommended by PMB: accelerate to 60 mph, brake hard to 10 mph, repeat about 6 times, then drive without braking to cool things down. A post-drive report: The brakes are better, but still a bit spongy and not at all "grabby" Tough to get all the air out The car drives straight, with the steering wheel centered, and no wandering. It responds nicely to steering input, but I have to get used to manual steering again. Are you running stock size tires? I have found 175/65 feel very good, not heavy like larger sizes I also have to get used to my whopping 125 hp (actually, at the altitude around here, more like 100 hp). Acceleration is, um, leisurely, but steady. With a new correct angle drive, the speedometer works but seems to read fast. My tires are within 1% of original diameter, so it must be internal to the gauge. No odometer function. I stopped for gas on the way home. The gauge indicated a bit more than 1/4 tank. I put in 6.5 gallons, and it read about 3/4, so it seems to work. I have found my gas gauge somewhat inaccurate, gets you in the ball park. Is your low fuel light working? Great project, thanks for documenting. Now she's going how will you be spending your free time? |
raynekat |
Aug 6 2022, 04:44 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,164 Joined: 30-December 14 From: Coeur d'Alene, Idaho Member No.: 18,263 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Bob, your alignment will be better than most shops.
If you are happy with it...I'd say drive it for a few thousand miles, recheck and go from there. Well done Mate! |
bbrock |
Aug 6 2022, 07:15 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,269 Joined: 17-February 17 From: Montana Member No.: 20,845 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Bob, your alignment will be better than most shops. If you are happy with it...I'd say drive it for a few thousand miles, recheck and go from there. Well done Mate! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) I have 6K miles on the string alignment I did on my car. Love how it handles and no sign of uneven tire wear. |
bkrantz |
Aug 6 2022, 08:07 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 8,154 Joined: 3-August 19 From: SW Colorado Member No.: 23,343 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Get back to work Bob, I noticed a speck of dust on a lower A arm on one of the pictures... we have standards here you know! Hey, Stu, give me a break. First I have to clean off the tiny humming bird poop on the frunk lid (no kidding, a hummer got trapped in my garage last night and left a present). |
bkrantz |
Aug 6 2022, 08:09 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 8,154 Joined: 3-August 19 From: SW Colorado Member No.: 23,343 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
While driving I tried the brake pad bedding procedure recommended by PMB: accelerate to 60 mph, brake hard to 10 mph, repeat about 6 times, then drive without braking to cool things down. A post-drive report: The brakes are better, but still a bit spongy and not at all "grabby" Tough to get all the air out The car drives straight, with the steering wheel centered, and no wandering. It responds nicely to steering input, but I have to get used to manual steering again. Are you running stock size tires? I have found 175/65 feel very good, not heavy like larger sizes I also have to get used to my whopping 125 hp (actually, at the altitude around here, more like 100 hp). Acceleration is, um, leisurely, but steady. With a new correct angle drive, the speedometer works but seems to read fast. My tires are within 1% of original diameter, so it must be internal to the gauge. No odometer function. I stopped for gas on the way home. The gauge indicated a bit more than 1/4 tank. I put in 6.5 gallons, and it read about 3/4, so it seems to work. I have found my gas gauge somewhat inaccurate, gets you in the ball park. Is your low fuel light working? Great project, thanks for documenting. Now she's going how will you be spending your free time? Thanks. I plan to try at least one more round of brake bleeding. Not sure yet about next. I promised to help my son with a restoration of his choice. We'll see. |
bkrantz |
Aug 6 2022, 08:11 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 8,154 Joined: 3-August 19 From: SW Colorado Member No.: 23,343 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
First Durango cars and coffee for the 914 today. Beautiful weather and a good turnout. And lots of positive comments.
In the cool morning, with the top off, I tested the heat--it works! Attached thumbnail(s) |
bkrantz |
Aug 6 2022, 08:13 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 8,154 Joined: 3-August 19 From: SW Colorado Member No.: 23,343 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
With my son watching his GPS app, we figured out that the speedometer reads consistently 5 mph too high.
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bkrantz |
Aug 6 2022, 08:15 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 8,154 Joined: 3-August 19 From: SW Colorado Member No.: 23,343 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
When we got home, I saw what looks like condensation inside the temp gauge. Strange, since this has been indoors for the past 3 years and not near water.
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930cabman |
Aug 7 2022, 06:02 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,701 Joined: 12-November 20 From: Buffalo Member No.: 24,877 Region Association: North East States |
Hate to say it, but this stuff will never go away. I have experienced the same thing with gauges and wondered if a small (tiny) pack of desiccant would help.
And the heat works, something to said for that |
iankarr |
Aug 7 2022, 08:27 AM
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The wrencher formerly known as Cuddy_K Group: Members Posts: 2,522 Joined: 22-May 15 From: Heber City, UT Member No.: 18,749 Region Association: Intermountain Region |
So awesome. Congrats on your first C&C! The brakes will get firmer with driving. I had the same sponginess after I was sure all air was out and Eric at PMB said that new piston seals in the calipers take a bit to relax. He was right. After about 100 miles or so the system really firmed up. Enjoy your stunning “new” car!
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