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post Nov 15 2020, 10:06 AM
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Damn. So many possibilities. Where is the origin of the oil leak? So many fouled plugs, too! Have you done a leak down test yet? Sounds like a head gasket leak between the water & oil passages but not between the cylinders. The odd thing is fouled plugs on both sides. 0 chance of blowing head gasket on both sides or cracked heads on both sides unless it overheated but you'd have noticed that. Looking forward to seeing what you find when you tear it down. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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post Nov 15 2020, 05:32 PM
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How is the front gap? It is possible to shift the door forward slightly, with a bit of persuasion of the B-pillar hinge mount spots (with a block and hammer and feeling brave).


I have always been one of those guys that over tightens, over bends, etc so to be honest I am afraid to try to push too much on the hinge side (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

With that said I have done some of that with a hydraulic ram and some lifting on the door but the front gap is pretty good so figured I would leave it alone...at least for now!
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post Nov 15 2020, 05:38 PM
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Damn. So many possibilities. Where is the origin of the oil leak? So many fouled plugs, too! Have you done a leak down test yet? Sounds like a head gasket leak between the water & oil passages but not between the cylinders. The odd thing is fouled plugs on both sides. 0 chance of blowing head gasket on both sides or cracked heads on both sides unless it overheated but you'd have noticed that. Looking forward to seeing what you find when you tear it down. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)


No leak down test yet but may once I get the engine and trans removed. I did a compression test before WCR and all were in the 150 psi area. Guessing that isn’t the case now (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif)

Here is the oil and coolant; kind of hard to tell which is which right?! The coolant was a nice green last I checked.

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post Nov 16 2020, 01:38 PM
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Your bulkhead seal is missing the flap that the factory seal has that actually contacts the trunk lid. It should help greatly with the blow by issue.
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post Nov 16 2020, 10:39 PM
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Damn. So many possibilities. Where is the origin of the oil leak? So many fouled plugs, too! Have you done a leak down test yet? Sounds like a head gasket leak between the water & oil passages but not between the cylinders. The odd thing is fouled plugs on both sides. 0 chance of blowing head gasket on both sides or cracked heads on both sides unless it overheated but you'd have noticed that. Looking forward to seeing what you find when you tear it down. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)


No leak down test yet but may once I get the engine and trans removed. I did a compression test before WCR and all were in the 150 psi area. Guessing that isn’t the case now (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif)

Here is the oil and coolant; kind of hard to tell which is which right?! The coolant was a nice green last I checked.

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The top pic is from the radiator and the lower from the oil pan?
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post Nov 17 2020, 02:52 PM
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Wow - Did you cross your oil cooler and water coolant return lines? Sorry, wish it was that simple... Good luck
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post Nov 17 2020, 03:17 PM
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Head gasket?
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post Jan 8 2021, 08:03 PM
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QUOTE(Chris914n6 @ Nov 16 2020, 11:38 AM) *

Your bulkhead seal is missing the flap that the factory seal has that actually contacts the trunk lid. It should help greatly with the blow by issue.


Yeah another lesson learned for me. When I did all the bodywork for the fiberglass hood and fenders I did many fit checks, but none with the seal on. After paint when reassembling the hood with the seal on, it pushed the hood up enough to make the lines unacceptable. Trimming it down solved the problem. May go back and do a better job making sure the seal fully contacts the hood.
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post Jan 8 2021, 08:05 PM
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QUOTE(76-914 @ Nov 16 2020, 08:39 PM) *

QUOTE(FL 000 @ Nov 15 2020, 03:38 PM) *

QUOTE(76-914 @ Nov 15 2020, 08:06 AM) *

Damn. So many possibilities. Where is the origin of the oil leak? So many fouled plugs, too! Have you done a leak down test yet? Sounds like a head gasket leak between the water & oil passages but not between the cylinders. The odd thing is fouled plugs on both sides. 0 chance of blowing head gasket on both sides or cracked heads on both sides unless it overheated but you'd have noticed that. Looking forward to seeing what you find when you tear it down. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)


No leak down test yet but may once I get the engine and trans removed. I did a compression test before WCR and all were in the 150 psi area. Guessing that isn’t the case now (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif)

Here is the oil and coolant; kind of hard to tell which is which right?! The coolant was a nice green last I checked.

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The top pic is from the radiator and the lower from the oil pan?


That’s funny, actually the top pic is from oil pan and bottom is the coolant. It was a mess.
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post Jan 8 2021, 08:11 PM
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Alright it turns out the heads were jacked up. Took it to my local machine shop and they went through them both. The said tons of carbon deposits on the intake valves. All the valves and guides checked good, so they basically just gave it a valve job and replaced the seals. I wouldn’t have thought valve seals alone could cause the oil consumption I was seeing, but I have a lot of confidence in the shop so assuming they are good now.

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Sure look nice all cleaned up.
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post Jan 8 2021, 08:18 PM
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So put my heads on tonight and adjusting the valves and this happens (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif)

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Yeah, rotating crank and engine literally falls off the stand without warning. Luckily didn’t land on me or my feet. Base of stand took initial impact and then it fell final few inches to the ground. Scary.

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Too upset to assess damage tonight so will get it in the air tomorrow. Just curious if this has happened to anyone else before?
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post Jan 8 2021, 09:13 PM
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WOW! That could have been a life changing event. Sorry for the hassle. It'll work out.
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post Jan 8 2021, 09:28 PM
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Holy Crap.
What brand is that stand?
Glad you still have both legs.
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post Jan 9 2021, 10:14 AM
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Holy Crap.
What brand is that stand?
Glad you still have both legs.


Harbor freight 1/2 Ton. Lightly used and never abused. Might be overkill but I think I will always use my crane as a backup from now on.
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post Jan 9 2021, 10:48 AM
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Glad your feet are ok! Hope the motor is ok too.

Was it pressed on? Or is that a little ring of broken weld?

Either way, I'm gunna have to check out my engine stand and make sure its welded all around, both sides! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welder.gif)
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post Jan 9 2021, 10:24 PM
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Aww Man. Sorry dude. I've got one of those but never put anything more than an aluminum 6 on it. It seemed it was at it's limits with the 6 on it, though. Hang tough. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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post Jan 10 2021, 01:29 AM
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You are lucky from the head situation and the accident. Get a edelbrock programmable fuel injection kit and you will be so happy.
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post Jan 10 2021, 01:33 AM
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Wow that is nuts with the engine stand! I have the same one. Looks like a failed weld or no welding at all... Makes we want to check mine...


Hopefully the damages are just the oil pan??

I had my first v8 engine fall over on me. But I still had a tire attached to it from when we grabbed it from a pick n pull....
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post Jan 10 2021, 01:39 AM
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Holy Crap.
What brand is that stand?
Glad you still have both legs.


Harbor freight 1/2 Ton. Lightly used and never abused. Might be overkill but I think I will always use my crane as a backup from now on.

I can’t even see a weld...
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post Jan 10 2021, 10:53 AM
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A couple more pics that may help some of you with a better eye than me. With the material still showing in the top one it does look like it was welded and broke there.

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And now here is my current setup. A little more difficult to work on it and flip over but not that big of a deal.

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