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Dr. Phil ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 5,769 Joined: 9-December 09 From: Bluffton, SC Member No.: 11,106 Region Association: South East States ![]() ![]() |
so I had an idea about this while searching for picture of gauges and placement and so on, and then on the thread about Classic AC's new center console AC unit, one member's biggest issue was just hating the center console and the "useless" gauges and distaste in general for the center console and it taking up space.
I can appreciate the simplicity of no console, but I do like the look of a nice clean console, and while I agree I really don't need a clock, I do like having functional gauges like my volt meter, Lambda gauge, and the new CHT temp gauge I just installed. AND even though I am fairly tall and have long legs I do not have an issue with it taking up room , in fact I kind of like resting my leg up against it on a long drive. But I digress! I would like to see how others have dealt with and oriented their gauges on the cluster, in the dash or center console. I have seen a few other pictures here and there but my search didn't pull up a thread that had put together a majority of those various approaches. I personally had to source an aftermarket center console because the original one ordered with the car's Appearance group package had been removed years ago. and now that I have customized this, I am also wanting to install AC in a way to not put the under dash unit it and would consider this Center console unit, BUT I have to figure out where else I would put the A/F meter gauge and the CHT and Volt meter at the very least I would want to retain those somewhere, not on the A-pillar, maybe in dash? Hmmmm--- post away!! Phil |
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I. I. R. C. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 6,735 Joined: 18-March 03 From: West TN Member No.: 439 Region Association: None ![]() ![]() |
Years ago my preference was console, but now I prefer no console. Here's a pic from a car I owned and did a 3.0 conversion on 25 years ago. 911 combo gauge, and a custom tach make from a 930 boost gauge tach, with the boost gauge converted to fuel gauge. Nothing under the dash. This car now belongs to a gentleman in middle TN, who painted the gauge panel silver. The red light is the brake warning, and the green is for fuel reserver or green means go get gas. The factory 930 steering wheel is a nice touch, I got a decent deal on it back in the day. No telling how much those are now.
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,612 Joined: 19-February 11 From: north Scottsdale Member No.: 12,732 Region Association: Upper MidWest ![]() ![]() |
I put two gauges where the ash tray way back in the early '70's on my '71. Later I added one in the dash.
On the '73 I had North Hollywood Speedometer put numbers on the oil temp gauge in the console and added a pressure gauge where the radio was since you really can't hear it anyway! Just have to get around to putting the dash vinyl on the face. ![]() ![]() |
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Dog is my copilot... ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,667 Joined: 28-January 03 From: VA Member No.: 207 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region ![]() ![]() |
Similar to a couple of the earlier pics in this thread.
I put VDO gauges in the ashtray hole back in the late 1970s. I later updated to these oil pressure and volt gauges from an old Audi GT or 4000 CS Quattro (can't remember for sure). I like these because the faces were a better match with the original silver dots. ![]() ![]() BTW, the "engine start" button is a heavy-duty Cole-Hersee switch from Waytek; less than $13. IIRC, it fits in the lighter hole pretty much without modification. Tied directly to a Ford-type starter relay, car starts more reliably now than when new. |
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It Looks Better In Person. . . ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 860 Joined: 17-September 03 From: Carlsbad, CA Member No.: 1,170 Region Association: Southern California ![]() ![]() |
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,408 Joined: 17-April 06 From: 'False City', WA Member No.: 5,880 Region Association: None ![]() |
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En Garde! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 13,475 Joined: 15-December 03 From: Dallastown, PA Member No.: 1,435 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region ![]() |
No pics at the moment, bu my car has a good amount of instrumentation, and does not have a center console.
I have my clock and volt meter on the A pillar. Oil temp, oil pressure, and head temp on the dash where the radio used to be. And my feet have plenty of room, 'cause no center console. Zach |
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914-6 GT in waiting ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 19,334 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region ![]() ![]() |
Even though I'm not a fan of the center console, I drove Oscar's car at WCR with one and once driving, I got used to it pretty quickly. I guess we adapt to most things if we have to. I have no trouble with a loose tail shifter trans even though it's not optimal.
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,408 Joined: 17-April 06 From: 'False City', WA Member No.: 5,880 Region Association: None ![]() |
My issue with console mounted gauges is that they take the drivers eyes exactly where they shouldn’t be, toward the floor. Back in the 70s, not many could even spell ergonomics no less know what it is.
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Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 181 Joined: 8-October 07 From: Cedar Park, Texas Member No.: 8,198 Region Association: Southwest Region ![]() ![]() |
Just curious if anyone has done a DIY quad gauge other than the guy who designed his own printed circuit boards with microcontrollers and such. I was thinking of using a stock temp and fuel gauge as a starting point and the quad gauge insert from a 944 gauge, plus a couple disassembled 2" VDO gauges, probably oil temp and volt meter.
Anyhow, just curious. Seems doable.. just haven't taken the parts...apart... yet to check it all out. |
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,648 Joined: 24-November 17 From: LA Member No.: 21,628 Region Association: Southern California ![]() ![]() |
Got these re-done by North Hollywood and I have to say they are pretty great.
They weren't in bad shape by any stretch but I had them replace all the plastic with glass - center 3 as well - other than the clock which is difficult due to the hole for the pin to set the time. They just polished that up and advised not to clean it with a paper towel. They replaced the low fuel red indicator, repainted all the needles, etc. and recallbrated the speedo for my specific tire size and dampened the tach so that it doesn't flop all over the place on acceleration/gear changes. I was a bit concerned when I put them back in as the speedo wasn't reading but both odometers were rolling. I few raps on the glass and the needle started to move and after about 50 miles it was per normal. Guess the lube just had to get loosened up a bit - and now it's dead on as checked with GPS. LEDs in everything other than the OIL and GEN indicators and it's a pleasure. My only thing is that the center 3 gauges don't dim with the headlight rheostat like the main 3 do - is that right? ![]() |
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Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 228 Joined: 14-September 19 From: US Member No.: 23,460 Region Association: None ![]() ![]() |
As I'm working on my 914 project (rust remediation), I'm thinking ahead about whether to keep/eliminate my center console.
Always liked the looks of the quad gauge...don't know if anyone is doing a "center button" quad gauge these days or if I should attempt to build one myself. Thoughts? Feedback would be appreciated! |
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,380 Joined: 8-February 05 From: WNY Member No.: 3,574 Region Association: North East States ![]() ![]() |
As I'm working on my 914 project (rust remediation), I'm thinking ahead about whether to keep/eliminate my center console. Always liked the looks of the quad gauge...don't know if anyone is doing a "center button" quad gauge these days or if I should attempt to build one myself. Thoughts? Feedback would be appreciated! Several years ago I purchased a kit from John and made my own. It wasn't too bad of a project but you would need 2 gauges if I recall. I'll post a pic of my gauge later today. |
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Times a wastin', get wrenchin'! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 3,896 Joined: 24-July 04 From: Dayton, Ohio Member No.: 2,388 Region Association: None ![]() ![]() |
Last count you can run 7 gauges in the stock area, and look like factory sold it that way. No extra drilling.
If you make a custom center dash section I ran in the race car, Tach, oil pressure, oil temp, two cylinder head gauges, fuel gauge, volt gauge, and a very small bike speedo, a pyrometer. All of these where in the stock instruments cans. Laid out so I could see them, with needles all straight up when running proper. None of it was useful in a 45 second run around the cones, maybe a minute depending on course length. I also ran a big Red light for low oil pressure. Yes I used a digital bike speedo, had a magnetic pickup, I mounted inboard on the passenger side CV. I originally did not have a speedo, as I could tell pretty much how fast I was driving on the highway. I needed it for one venue where the campus cops would give us tickets if we went over the posted parking lot speed limit once off the course. It was 10 MPH (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ar15.gif) That also leaves your center console for other things if you want to run it. Like a place to hide your A/C blower gives you vent locations. |
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,282 Joined: 19-March 13 From: Charleston SC Member No.: 15,673 Region Association: South East States ![]() ![]() |
I put oil pressure and cylinder head temp in a bracket just under dash, and replaced the lighter with a dual USB port/voltmeter.
Digital temp gage is fed by type J TC. Weather's a little cool here today so never saw over 180 temp ![]() Even with the image inverted in my files, it still shows here upside down sorry |
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 500 Joined: 27-February 17 From: Bellingham, WA Member No.: 20,876 Region Association: None ![]() |
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,380 Joined: 8-February 05 From: WNY Member No.: 3,574 Region Association: North East States ![]() ![]() |
It's going to be awhile for the install of my gauges but here's what I have.
Using the center console but having the center sections made in carbon fiber to fit my gauges. Also having the lower section modified to fit my rennshifter and 914-6 hand throttle. Attached image(s) ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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7T Porsh ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,691 Joined: 27-March 06 From: Glendale Ca Member No.: 5,782 Region Association: Southern California ![]() ![]() |
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Dr. Phil ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 5,769 Joined: 9-December 09 From: Bluffton, SC Member No.: 11,106 Region Association: South East States ![]() ![]() |
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Village Idiot ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 8,341 Joined: 25-May 04 From: About 5NM from Canada Member No.: 2,105 Region Association: Pacific Northwest ![]() ![]() |
I don't even get to pick up my 914-6 for another month. But, picked up a 911 combo gauge to swap out for the 914 fuel gauge. Dunno what I'll do about the fuel gauge. I've done the small 2 1/8" I think gauge in the dash. Keeps things pretty simple and clean looking.
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,734 Joined: 30-March 11 From: San Diego, CA Member No.: 12,876 Region Association: Southern California ![]() ![]() |
@raynekat wins, that's the coolest set up I've seen keeping in the stock 3 pod dash, seriously, well done (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wub.gif)
My new GT car has a Getty dash a'la Patrick Motorsports with a full set of 993 gauges: ![]() |
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