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post Aug 19 2021, 07:16 AM
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Pete, That is a really interesting thought. I have always thought about the application of an aviation style heat muff for our cars as a more simple alternative to the stock heat shrouds. The problem with that is they need an un-obstructed section of straight pipe to fit onto, and that does just not exist on the stock headers or on most other headers. See this

http://www.velocedge.com/Starduster/Projec...ter/Default.asp

But this configuration does provide that straight section. The issue would be getting the blown air routed back to this section and then returning it to the heat pipes.

I think maybe this deserves some further thought and its own thread so as not to detract from #40 worship.

Gotta say that #40 is the holy grail and Marty and crew are the perfect custodians. Sometimes life and karma do produce the perfect match!
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post Aug 19 2021, 07:45 AM
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QUOTE(gereed75 @ Aug 19 2021, 06:16 AM) *

Pete, That is a really interesting thought. I have always thought about the application of an aviation style heat muff for our cars as a more simple alternative to the stock heat shrouds. The problem with that is they need an un-obstructed section of straight pipe to fit onto, and that does just not exist on the stock headers or on most other headers. See this

http://www.velocedge.com/Starduster/Projec...ter/Default.asp

But this configuration does provide that straight section. The issue would be getting the blown air routed back to this section and then returning it to the heat pipes.

I think maybe this deserves some further thought and its own thread so as not to detract from #40 worship.

Gotta say that #40 is the holy grail and Marty and crew are the perfect custodians. Sometimes life and karma do produce the perfect match!


Agree with all your points—particularly that last one.

Those straight pipes really do provide for some interesting options, and small HEs would be one of the best of them. I would be interested in cats with HEs as I would love to have a cleaner 914—though I'd want to weigh that against the implications for engine oil temps and transaxle oil temps. The heat muffler you linked is very, very interesting—as is the flapper box in the pics, particularly if it seals better than the Porsche flappers. The new ones I bought years ago still bled heat from my SSIs, which was super annoying on hot days. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

Agree about the question on how to get the heat forward again, to the flapper boxes, but suspect fairly elegant heat return tubes could be made to work. One begins to wonder if the GT headers could also provide an easier way to do valve adjustments, if the straight pipes and muffler could be left in place? How cool would that be? Looking at some of those GT hangars/mounts with increased interest now, as I am wondering if they support the front of the straight pipes? Or if that is even necessary for a valve adjust?

Yes, a separate thread is probably warranted to avoid polluting this one—but this fantastic thread on #40, a 914 that has been inspiring me for more than 30 years and is prominently displayed in the 000 office, prompted the crazy thought. Which gets me back to your last point… (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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post Oct 6 2021, 10:39 PM
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Engine/ transaxle installed, and Dunpy has landed on the rear flares...been MIA for about 50 years !
I've had the Dunpy stickers professionally printed , and have a small stock on hand/ Dm me if you're interested (IMG:style_emoticons/default/number40_914.jpg)
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post Oct 6 2021, 10:52 PM
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dunpy!!!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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So cool to see.
Thanks for sharing and not turning it into jewelry.
Rennsport..... Laguna......mmmmmm
Great job Marty.
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post Oct 7 2021, 05:58 AM
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Sweet! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cheer.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/first.gif)
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I wonder if Lord Carnarvon felt like this peering at Tut's ride. Very cool Marty
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post Oct 11 2021, 06:55 PM
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Several months ago Marty took some measurements and made a drawing for me of the lower hood plates. Is there a chance he could make me a drawing for the upper plates too? @Maltese Falcon @MATTYLITE

Thanks! You guys are the best!!
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post Oct 11 2021, 07:09 PM
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dunpy!!!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)


How soon before those wheel wells get filled up?
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post Oct 12 2021, 09:13 PM
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QUOTE(IronHillRestorations @ Oct 11 2021, 05:55 PM) *

Several months ago Marty took some measurements and made a drawing for me of the lower hood plates. Is there a chance he could make me a drawing for the upper plates too? @Maltese Falcon @MATTYLITE

Thanks! You guys are the best!!


Def will pit this on the to-do list for you...sharpening up the #2 pencil !
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post Oct 12 2021, 09:16 PM
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QUOTE(wonkipop @ Oct 6 2021, 09:52 PM) *

dunpy!!!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)


How soon before those wheel wells get filled up?


Bouncing around on several projs' Marc, almost there.
Don't you just love cookies ¿ (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif)
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post Oct 13 2021, 09:51 PM
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QUOTE(Maltese Falcon @ Oct 6 2021, 09:39 PM) *

Engine/ transaxle installed, and Dunpy has landed on the rear flares...been MIA for about 50 years !
I've had the Dunpy stickers professionally printed , and have a small stock on hand/ Dm me if you're interested (IMG:style_emoticons/default/number40_914.jpg)


Your Welcome.

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post Oct 14 2021, 10:12 AM
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QUOTE(Martin Baker @ Oct 13 2021, 08:51 PM) *

QUOTE(Maltese Falcon @ Oct 6 2021, 09:39 PM) *

Engine/ transaxle installed, and Dunpy has landed on the rear flares...been MIA for about 50 years !
I've had the Dunpy stickers professionally printed , and have a small stock on hand/ Dm me if you're interested (IMG:style_emoticons/default/number40_914.jpg)


Your Welcome.

MB


And thank you Martin (in his #40) for your research into the long lost Dunpy, then forwarding us the graphics to get over to print. This 914World calender has not moved from March 2016, and we get an eyeful of it everytime we're in this room (IMG:style_emoticons/default/aktion035.gif)
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post Oct 17 2021, 05:21 AM
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Very special Marty! Can't believe I missed this whole thread.
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QUOTE(rick 918-S @ Oct 17 2021, 04:21 AM) *

Very special Marty! Can't believe I missed this whole thread.


Never enough projects Rick ! Are you finishing up the R-Gruppe 914 ? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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QUOTE(rick 918-S @ Oct 17 2021, 04:21 AM) *

Very special Marty! Can't believe I missed this whole thread.


Never enough projects Rick ! Are you finishing up the R-Gruppe 914 ? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)


It's on the Celette. I thought I had the perfect pats car but it may turn out to be too nice to be a donor.

I have been thinking a lot about your 928 headers though. Specially after reading through this thread. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/aktion035.gif)
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QUOTE(rick 918-S @ Oct 17 2021, 05:23 PM) *

QUOTE(Maltese Falcon @ Oct 17 2021, 07:13 PM) *

QUOTE(rick 918-S @ Oct 17 2021, 04:21 AM) *

Very special Marty! Can't believe I missed this whole thread.


Never enough projects Rick ! Are you finishing up the R-Gruppe 914 ? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)


It's on the Celette. I thought I had the perfect pats car but it may turn out to be too nice to be a donor.

I have been thinking a lot about your 928 headers though. Specially after reading through this thread. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/aktion035.gif)


... 928 headers now upgraded to newer Gen2 Merged Collector design / hand built and decent power bump (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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QUOTE(IronHillRestorations @ Oct 11 2021, 04:55 PM) *

Several months ago Marty took some measurements and made a drawing for me of the lower hood plates. Is there a chance he could make me a drawing for the upper plates too? @Maltese Falcon @MATTYLITE

Thanks! You guys are the best!!


Perry @IronHillRestorations , the upper plates just use the OE corner-pieces (where the rubber adjusters fit). The pin centers are 1.5" center-to-edge (weather-strip) channel...in red.
Hope this helps !
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Cleaned up the neglected Lamp wiring for the rear trunk "40" night illumination. It picks up its power from the (former) engine compartment light.
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QUOTE(Maltese Falcon @ Nov 17 2021, 09:37 PM) *

QUOTE(IronHillRestorations @ Oct 11 2021, 04:55 PM) *

Several months ago Marty took some measurements and made a drawing for me of the lower hood plates. Is there a chance he could make me a drawing for the upper plates too? @Maltese Falcon @MATTYLITE

Thanks! You guys are the best!!


Perry @IronHillRestorations , the upper plates just use the OE corner-pieces (where the rubber adjusters fit). The pin centers are 1.5" center-to-edge (weather-strip) channel...in red.
Hope this helps !
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@ Maltese Falcon Thanks Marty, but I was asking about the plate on the hood. You made a nice drawing of the lower hood plate, but I need the upper too.
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