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> I'm getting a RAT!!, MASSIVE TYPE4 in the worlds lightest 914
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post Jul 14 2005, 12:33 PM
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Yes, boys and girls. It's about to happen. Jake and I have struck a deal on his "loaner" engine. It is 2316 cc, 186 HP of pure power. As Jake explains it was used as a test engine for different set ups for his dyno tests and than loaned out to guys while thier engine's were being rebuilt.

Now I've got to fab up some wheelie bars for my car. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/happy11.gif)

Let see.... if a stock 914 had 90 hp and weighed 2200 pounds that is 24.44 pounds per HP.

My car will have 186 HP and weigh 1400 pounds or 7.52 pounds per HP.

So if I got this right, my car should be faster than a stock 914, right? (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/confused24.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/w00t.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/happy11.gif)

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post Jul 14 2005, 12:38 PM
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Sounds awesome! My tail dragger has an honest 190 hp at the wheels (i.e., dyno'ed), it's not significantly lighter than any other long hood 911, and it's scary fast within the powerband (3500 and up). Your car ought to be a screamer!
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post Jul 14 2005, 12:40 PM
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QUOTE (URY914 @ Jul 14 2005, 10:33 AM)
So if I got this right, my car should be faster than a stock 914, right? (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/confused24.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/w00t.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/happy11.gif)

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Yes, ANY stock 914, by a good margin.

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post Jul 14 2005, 12:41 PM
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Wowie! Your average V8 conversion is about 8 lbs per HP.. Not only will you be faster, but boy will you beat them in the corners! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smile.gif)
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post Jul 14 2005, 12:41 PM
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by my calculations...

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186 HP and weigh 1400 pounds or 7.52 pounds per HP.
will = '1 fast bitch!!!

I wish you had a passenger seat... I'd fly out for a ride! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smilie_pokal.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smilie_pokal.gif)


awesome man! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/beerchug.gif)
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post Jul 14 2005, 12:45 PM
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The long range plans do include a passenger seat. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wink.gif)

That's why I haven't cut the pass. side floor out.

I've got two stock 914 seat shells that I'm going to rework and install. If you've never seen a naked 914 seat, it just fiberglass and pretty light when stripped down.

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post Jul 14 2005, 12:47 PM
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QUOTE (URY914 @ Jul 14 2005, 12:33 PM)
Let see.... if a stock 914 had 90 hp and weighed 2200 pounds that is 24.44 pounds per HP.

My car will have 186 HP and weigh 1400 pounds  or 7.52 pounds per HP.

Paul, sorry, but that is WAY too much HP for a car as light as yours.

You're gonna put your eye out with it. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif)
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post Jul 14 2005, 12:47 PM
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Any plans to lighten the engine?

(a little filing here, a little filing there, lose a pound!)
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post Jul 14 2005, 12:51 PM
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QUOTE (bondo @ Jul 14 2005, 12:47 PM)
Any plans to lighten the engine?

(a little filing here, a little filing there, lose a pound!)

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(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wacko.gif) actually that's a good idea. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif)
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post Jul 14 2005, 12:53 PM
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QUOTE (bondo @ Jul 14 2005, 10:47 AM)
Any plans to lighten the engine?

(a little filing here, a little filing there, lose a pound!)

I was toying with the idea of a fiberglass fan housing and engine tin, but it would be a whole lot of work for little gain.

But, what I will do is grind off all the tabs, brackets, tits, etc that is on the cast aluminum fan housing.

I currently don't run the stock oil cooler but with the new engine I'll put it back on.

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post Jul 14 2005, 01:06 PM
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Yep!

Paul is gonna be kickin some serious ass with this power plant!

This isn't a "normal" RAT engine, this one was used as a test engine in my 914 for a year, then stripped down and some components swapped to create the 2316 Hybrid test engine thats in the 914 now.

4 different customers of mine have "Borrowed" or rented this engine from me and it has been freshened up before the current "Borrower" received it from me.

It is built with a crazy cam, a multitude of used parts from other engines but that has never impacted its performance or reliability!

I wish Paul luck with this beast- It may not have the typical "Jake Pedigree" but it damn sure doesn't need it, this one has suprised me over and over again with reliable power . Everyone who has ever driven it is blown away by it's performance and they never would have guessed that it was anything less than one of my best engines.

To lose 15 pounds he could install some Nickies......

Paul, find a blower housing from a 80-83 Vanagon and I'll share some tricks about what to do to it- Its also lighter and has better internal partitioning than the stocker.

Paul was the perfect person for this engine- Light car, Autocrosser and thats exactly what this powerband is great for. He also understood that it was a loaner engine and what comes with that.

Paul, you need a tach that goes to 10K, I have wrapped this baby over 8K on the dyno before!
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post Jul 14 2005, 01:19 PM
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SICK!!!!

Youve got a Rat Rod now!!!


Go paul, Go paul, Go paul....

Look out everyone... Pauls in town!
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post Jul 14 2005, 01:22 PM
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OK, Time to plan my road trip around the next event in FLA. and Hurricannes (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/blink.gif)

I wanna race Paul. Hey how about a new episode of Pinks. No drag race just Autocross. FTD wins....... Oh I get to bring my co driver Hassan. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/lol2.gif)

Nice score Paul should be one hell of a ride.
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post Jul 14 2005, 01:23 PM
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Oh my God! You found a way to make him even faster; Light Headed.

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Good deal man, looking forward to seeing a few speechless posts from you Paul!



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post Jul 14 2005, 01:25 PM
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I'm sure you'll see speechless posts...

The difference between this engine and a 2 liter is like night and day...

I'll see if I can find the dyno graph and upload it here for you guys to see..

It has almost perfectly flat torque to boot!
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post Jul 14 2005, 01:28 PM
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I guess Paul's new favorite smilie will be a "shit eatin grin"
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post Jul 14 2005, 01:31 PM
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Now I gotta pull my engine and finish all the little crap on my list to get it ready for this BAMF.

Than get the body ready to paint.

Oh it sounds so easy sitting here at my desk. No problem. I'll just quit my job. Cash in the 401K and finish my car. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/sad.gif)

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post Jul 14 2005, 01:37 PM
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Then move to the mountains and come work for me... I need an honest helping hand around here- too damn much for me and Brent to handle alone now... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/boldblue.gif)
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post Jul 14 2005, 01:46 PM
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QUOTE (Jake Raby @ Jul 14 2005, 11:37 AM)
Then move to the mountains and come work for me... I need an honest helping hand around here- too damn much for me and Brent to handle alone now... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/boldblue.gif)

Shit, working for you I'd never get time off to drive my car. It would be like working for Boyd Covington or Paul Tuttle. I've seen how you crazy car guys work your pepole like dogs. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/flipa.gif)

Actually, I'd love it (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif) . Maybe one day.....

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post Jul 14 2005, 01:53 PM
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How about a test pilot for all the hot rods you guys build?
I Seriously hate my job too. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/dry.gif)
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