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post Oct 17 2020, 01:15 PM
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My trans goes into all gears but pops out of 2nd. I don't know if it pops out of 4th as I haven't gotten that fast. 3rd 1st and reverse are no issues.

The other thing is I can actually push past 2nd and 4th, with car off and without much effort, and then this happens... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif)

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I can drive it in 2nd if I hold the shifter in place. I've adjusted again and again using all the techniques and it doesn't appear to change even the slightest. Is there something I'm missing or is it time for a rebuild. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/barf.gif)



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post Oct 17 2020, 01:44 PM
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QUOTE(BPic @ Oct 18 2020, 08:15 AM) *

My trans goes into all gears but pops out of 2nd. I don't know if it pops out of 4th as I haven't gotten that fast. 3rd 1st and reverse are no issues.

The other thing is I can actually push past 2nd and 4th, with car off and without much effort, and then this happens... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif)

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I can drive it in 2nd if I hold the shifter in place. I've adjusted again and again using all the techniques and it doesn't appear to change even the slightest. Is there something I'm missing or is it time for a rebuild. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/barf.gif)

You have the wrong part that holds the nylon ball cup,believe you have the shorter one,I would think all will come good when you change it .
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post Oct 17 2020, 01:47 PM
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QUOTE(porschetub @ Oct 17 2020, 03:44 PM) *

QUOTE(BPic @ Oct 18 2020, 08:15 AM) *

My trans goes into all gears but pops out of 2nd. I don't know if it pops out of 4th as I haven't gotten that fast. 3rd 1st and reverse are no issues.

The other thing is I can actually push past 2nd and 4th, with car off and without much effort, and then this happens... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif)

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I can drive it in 2nd if I hold the shifter in place. I've adjusted again and again using all the techniques and it doesn't appear to change even the slightest. Is there something I'm missing or is it time for a rebuild. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/barf.gif)

You have the wrong part that holds the nylon ball cup,believe you have the shorter one,I would think all will come good when you change it .
Good luck.


There's more than one size of those cast cups? I have 2 from 2 different transmissions and both the same. I'll start looking now.

Thanks.
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post Oct 17 2020, 02:13 PM
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I measured mine and both are 65 mm. Anyone know where to get a longer one?

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post Oct 17 2020, 02:28 PM
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Early ones for the tailshifter are shorter than the later ones for the sideshifter.
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post Oct 17 2020, 02:34 PM
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QUOTE(BPic @ Oct 18 2020, 08:47 AM) *

QUOTE(porschetub @ Oct 17 2020, 03:44 PM) *

QUOTE(BPic @ Oct 18 2020, 08:15 AM) *

My trans goes into all gears but pops out of 2nd. I don't know if it pops out of 4th as I haven't gotten that fast. 3rd 1st and reverse are no issues.

The other thing is I can actually push past 2nd and 4th, with car off and without much effort, and then this happens... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif)

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I can drive it in 2nd if I hold the shifter in place. I've adjusted again and again using all the techniques and it doesn't appear to change even the slightest. Is there something I'm missing or is it time for a rebuild. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/barf.gif)

You have the wrong part that holds the nylon ball cup,believe you have the shorter one,I would think all will come good when you change it .
Good luck.


There's more than one size of those cast cups? I have 2 from 2 different transmissions and both the same. I'll start looking now.

Thanks.

No problem,I would measure mine for you but my car is off the jackstands for a change (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif) .
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QUOTE(BPic @ Oct 17 2020, 12:15 PM) *

My trans goes into all gears but pops out of 2nd. I don't know if it pops out of 4th as I haven't gotten that fast. 3rd 1st and reverse are no issues.

The other thing is I can actually push past 2nd and 4th, with car off and without much effort, and then this happens... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif)

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I can drive it in 2nd if I hold the shifter in place. I've adjusted again and again using all the techniques and it doesn't appear to change even the slightest. Is there something I'm missing or is it time for a rebuild. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/barf.gif)


I'm looking at your pic, and I can't see the washer that goes on both sides of the shift housing and the lever. There should be one washer on both sides of the shift housing. We stock them, if they aren't there. Rich
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QUOTE(BPic @ Oct 17 2020, 01:13 PM) *

I measured mine and both are 65 mm. Anyone know where to get a longer one?

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ALL the side shift, 73-76 914-4 transmissions have the same parts. There are NOT two different lengths.
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QUOTE(mepstein @ Oct 17 2020, 01:28 PM) *

Early ones for the tailshifter are shorter than the later ones for the sideshifter.


The 1970-1972 tail shifter part is not the same at all.
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post Oct 17 2020, 02:43 PM
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that shift head looks correct, have you installed a better ball cup bushing? On the other hand, maybe someone at one time cut yours shorter for 911 and early 914 applications. The first thing I thought is that someone installed the earlier shift head in your car until I saw a picture of it


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I measured mine and both are 65 mm. Anyone know where to get a longer one?

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QUOTE(Rich Bontempi @ Oct 17 2020, 04:39 PM) *

QUOTE(BPic @ Oct 17 2020, 12:15 PM) *

My trans goes into all gears but pops out of 2nd. I don't know if it pops out of 4th as I haven't gotten that fast. 3rd 1st and reverse are no issues.

The other thing is I can actually push past 2nd and 4th, with car off and without much effort, and then this happens... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif)

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I can drive it in 2nd if I hold the shifter in place. I've adjusted again and again using all the techniques and it doesn't appear to change even the slightest. Is there something I'm missing or is it time for a rebuild. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/barf.gif)


I'm looking at your pic, and I can't see the washer that goes on both sides of the shift housing and the lever. There should be one washer on both sides of the shift housing. We stock them, if they aren't there. Rich


Rich do you mena the highlighted washer? I'll check.

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QUOTE(BPic @ Oct 17 2020, 12:15 PM) *

My trans goes into all gears but pops out of 2nd. I don't know if it pops out of 4th as I haven't gotten that fast. 3rd 1st and reverse are no issues.

The other thing is I can actually push past 2nd and 4th, with car off and without much effort, and then this happens... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif)

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I can drive it in 2nd if I hold the shifter in place. I've adjusted again and again using all the techniques and it doesn't appear to change even the slightest. Is there something I'm missing or is it time for a rebuild. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/barf.gif)


I hope you realize you need to pop the ball cup bushing on that round ball lever!
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QUOTE(dr914@autoatlanta.com @ Oct 17 2020, 04:43 PM) *

that shift head looks correct, have you installed a better ball cup bushing? On the other hand, maybe someone at one time cut yours shorter for 911 and early 914 applications. The first thing I thought is that someone installed the earlier shift head in your car until I saw a picture of it


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I measured mine and both are 65 mm. Anyone know where to get a longer one?

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Thanks Dr. No the head was not altered. I have two that are identical.
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QUOTE(BPic @ Oct 17 2020, 01:46 PM) *

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QUOTE(BPic @ Oct 17 2020, 12:15 PM) *

My trans goes into all gears but pops out of 2nd. I don't know if it pops out of 4th as I haven't gotten that fast. 3rd 1st and reverse are no issues.

The other thing is I can actually push past 2nd and 4th, with car off and without much effort, and then this happens... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif)

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I can drive it in 2nd if I hold the shifter in place. I've adjusted again and again using all the techniques and it doesn't appear to change even the slightest. Is there something I'm missing or is it time for a rebuild. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/barf.gif)


I'm looking at your pic, and I can't see the washer that goes on both sides of the shift housing and the lever. There should be one washer on both sides of the shift housing. We stock them, if they aren't there. Rich


Rich do you mena the highlighted washer? I'll check.

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Number 15 and number 18 are the washers!
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QUOTE(Rich Bontempi @ Oct 17 2020, 04:48 PM) *

QUOTE(BPic @ Oct 17 2020, 12:15 PM) *

My trans goes into all gears but pops out of 2nd. I don't know if it pops out of 4th as I haven't gotten that fast. 3rd 1st and reverse are no issues.

The other thing is I can actually push past 2nd and 4th, with car off and without much effort, and then this happens... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif)

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I can drive it in 2nd if I hold the shifter in place. I've adjusted again and again using all the techniques and it doesn't appear to change even the slightest. Is there something I'm missing or is it time for a rebuild. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/barf.gif)


I hope you realize you need to pop the ball cup bushing on that round ball lever!


Yes. Thats part of the issue it extends to far and pulls out just like in the pic. And the cup is new.
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QUOTE(Rich Bontempi @ Oct 17 2020, 01:50 PM) *

QUOTE(BPic @ Oct 17 2020, 01:46 PM) *

QUOTE(Rich Bontempi @ Oct 17 2020, 04:39 PM) *

QUOTE(BPic @ Oct 17 2020, 12:15 PM) *

My trans goes into all gears but pops out of 2nd. I don't know if it pops out of 4th as I haven't gotten that fast. 3rd 1st and reverse are no issues.

The other thing is I can actually push past 2nd and 4th, with car off and without much effort, and then this happens... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif)

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I can drive it in 2nd if I hold the shifter in place. I've adjusted again and again using all the techniques and it doesn't appear to change even the slightest. Is there something I'm missing or is it time for a rebuild. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/barf.gif)


I'm looking at your pic, and I can't see the washer that goes on both sides of the shift housing and the lever. There should be one washer on both sides of the shift housing. We stock them, if they aren't there. Rich


Rich do you mena the highlighted washer? I'll check.

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Number 15 and number 18 are the washers!

The washers keep the shifter from going too far!
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QUOTE(Rich Bontempi @ Oct 17 2020, 05:34 PM) *

QUOTE(Rich Bontempi @ Oct 17 2020, 01:50 PM) *

QUOTE(BPic @ Oct 17 2020, 01:46 PM) *

QUOTE(Rich Bontempi @ Oct 17 2020, 04:39 PM) *

QUOTE(BPic @ Oct 17 2020, 12:15 PM) *

My trans goes into all gears but pops out of 2nd. I don't know if it pops out of 4th as I haven't gotten that fast. 3rd 1st and reverse are no issues.

The other thing is I can actually push past 2nd and 4th, with car off and without much effort, and then this happens... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif)

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I can drive it in 2nd if I hold the shifter in place. I've adjusted again and again using all the techniques and it doesn't appear to change even the slightest. Is there something I'm missing or is it time for a rebuild. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/barf.gif)


I'm looking at your pic, and I can't see the washer that goes on both sides of the shift housing and the lever. There should be one washer on both sides of the shift housing. We stock them, if they aren't there. Rich


Rich do you mena the highlighted washer? I'll check.

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Number 15 and number 18 are the washers!

The washers keep the shifter from going too far!


Rich sending you a PM regarding washers.
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Have you tried shifting it to 2nd gear by hand on the rear tranny? Offcourse engine not running then push clutch to start engine and try if you release the clutch pedal will let the car run without popping.
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Is the pinkish stuff on the ball bushing material or grease? Is the ball cup hard plastic? When the white ones are on the ball it can be a pain to get them off.
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