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> Rust repair before paint, The quest for solid metal in the driver side Long - 73 narrow body/4 rebuild thread
Montreal914
post Oct 24 2020, 05:59 PM
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Edit: I might as well make this my rebuild thread...

Original post; I got side tracked on my Microsquirt build as I have decided, after 11 years of ownership, to finally get my car painted to get her ready for her upcoming 50th birthday. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
Knowing these endeavors can take a lot more time than initially planned, I hope to make it in time... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif)

Originally bahia red 73 1.7. The goal is a narrow body 2056 Microsquirt, VW Tornado red, 5 lugs conversion with 16" Fuchs.
Front: 914-4 A arms with rubber bushings, 911 3" pin struts, Bilstein inserts, Alfa Brembo, vented rotor, stock torsion bar, 19mm sway bar, turbo tie rods, and 19mm master cylinder.
Rear: Drilled hubs, 914 PMB stock calipers edit: 914-6 calipers replica, 914-6 solid rear rotors, 140lbs springs, stock sway bar, rubber bushings.

But before I get the pleasure of installing all of these beautiful fresh goodies, I need to tackle the not so fun stuff... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif)

I have already started fixing some of the rust issues and will share that progress in the near future but right now, I wanted to post some of the issues i have on the passenger side front fender. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) I have searched and read many of the builds here but I would like some inputs from the people who have gone through this mess.

I am trying to understand the construction of the rear part of the fender, more precisely the area joining the front cowling.

Below is a sketch of how I think it is made but i would like someone to confirm...

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Having removed the seam sealer in the upper rear area, I have discovered "this" (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) which is not really unusual, but clearly a pain to fix. I am not sure though what I am looking at. If my sketch is correct, I guess the inner rusted layer is from the fender rear bulkhead that actually becomes an inner layer on the rear upper point of the fender by the door and cowling junction.

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I might be able to cut this from the underside preventing me from cutting the outer surface of the fender. But I would like to better understand what is happening at the junction to the body.
How many layers are there from the fender, one or two?
Is the metal peeling off at the joint to the body the metal from the bulkhead/inner layer, or is it the outer fender layer?

As a reference, this if the situation of the channel, surface rust, but how bad? Is there a way to better know without destroying? Maybe poke with a screwdriver? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)

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Montreal914   Rust repair before paint   Oct 24 2020, 05:59 PM
rick 918-S   Got your text. I think I read at one time Chris Fo...   Mar 10 2023, 05:31 AM
930cabman   Great looking workmanship, keep it going. the thi...   Mar 10 2023, 10:57 AM
Superhawk996   Lots of good work going on here. :trophy:   Mar 10 2023, 11:36 AM
bkrantz   Your panel fit and alignment looks at least as goo...   Mar 10 2023, 08:21 PM
Montreal914   All, thank you for the compliment! :worship: ...   Mar 11 2023, 11:06 AM
Montreal914   Before I continue I need to take a few step back a...   Apr 8 2023, 06:40 PM
rick 918-S   That should work nicely :welder:   Apr 8 2023, 08:32 PM
ChrisFoley   I like that!   Apr 9 2023, 03:52 AM
Montreal914   Time to put the tub on the Jigster (Jeff Hail...   Apr 21 2023, 07:13 PM
Montreal914   So, as mentioned earlier, the car is currently set...   Apr 21 2023, 07:23 PM
930cabman   The lengths we go to save our 1/2 century entry le...   Apr 22 2023, 06:43 AM
Montreal914   Yeah... Spent the night thinking about a strategy ...   Apr 22 2023, 10:15 AM
Superhawk996   1st let’s answer your question. Suspension con...   Apr 22 2023, 11:10 AM
Superhawk996   What you have is worth saving. Don’t give up. ...   Apr 22 2023, 11:18 AM
Montreal914   Thank you Superhawk for the pointers. I am going t...   Apr 22 2023, 12:11 PM
Superhawk996   Give my regards to Vince. He provided front bulkh...   Apr 22 2023, 12:27 PM
rick 918-S   It is always hard to know when to stop. I mean you...   Apr 22 2023, 12:28 PM
altitude411   Am I mistaken or is this area in blue the only pla...   Apr 22 2023, 12:55 PM
Montreal914   Well, it was worth the trip to Vince's. :trop...   Apr 22 2023, 05:38 PM
Montreal914   Another month goes by... :blink: After a trip t...   May 28 2023, 09:11 PM
Montreal914   To address the rust on the driver's side long,...   May 29 2023, 10:30 AM
Montreal914   More pictures :D Here is the back side of the o...   May 29 2023, 10:54 AM
nivekdodge   Holy toledo. You are going to town on that. Kevin   May 29 2023, 07:05 PM
Mayne   Nice work! Are you going to coat the inside of...   May 30 2023, 09:40 AM
930cabman   This is great progress, thank you for documenting ...   May 30 2023, 12:15 PM
bkrantz   Nice surgical work. Keep going!   May 30 2023, 07:08 PM
Montreal914   The quest for solid metal continues... :headbang: ...   Jun 20 2023, 09:04 PM
930cabman   Will it ever end? Keep up the good work, there m...   Jun 21 2023, 07:32 AM
Montreal914   Right? When will I get to solid metal?? :wacko: ...   Jun 21 2023, 08:37 AM
930cabman   AT LAST, good metal Like finding water in the de...   Jun 21 2023, 09:30 AM
Montreal914   Next step, cleaning up the surface rust in the upp...   Jul 13 2023, 10:59 AM
Alain V.   Something really satisfying about dissolving rust ...   Jul 13 2023, 06:07 PM
930cabman   Very cool process :beer2: :beer2:   Jul 14 2023, 07:37 AM
Montreal914   Some progress to share: Before continuing the pre...   Aug 6 2023, 11:55 AM
Montreal914   After carefully trimming both piece, I set them in...   Aug 6 2023, 02:41 PM
nivekdodge   You are kickin a and taking names!!!...   Aug 9 2023, 08:31 PM
tygaboy   Super nice job you're doing. Great fit-up on t...   Aug 9 2023, 10:08 PM
Montreal914   Super nice job you're doing. Great fit-up on ...   Aug 10 2023, 01:34 PM
930cabman   Prior to welding new sections in place, have you b...   Aug 10 2023, 12:09 PM
Montreal914   Prior to welding new sections in place, have you ...   Aug 10 2023, 01:31 PM
tygaboy   [quote name='930cabman' post='3094762' date='Aug ...   Aug 11 2023, 07:12 AM
TRS63   Taking time to get the perfect fit is key to quali...   Aug 11 2023, 06:21 AM
Montreal914   @[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showu...   Aug 11 2023, 10:23 AM
tygaboy   @[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showu...   Aug 12 2023, 07:52 AM
Montreal914   Yikes... 11 months later... :rolleyes: Well not ...   Jul 13 2024, 12:34 PM
Montreal914   Continuation for post above... There are five of ...   Jul 13 2024, 01:58 PM
Montreal914   Next I wanted to remove some of the dents that wer...   Jul 13 2024, 02:30 PM
rick 918-S   That worked nicely. :thumbsup:   Jul 13 2024, 02:58 PM
930cabman   +1 with the dry ice, I recently used it to remove ...   Jul 13 2024, 05:56 PM
rick 918-S   I like the dry ice thing. I have never used it but...   Jul 14 2024, 05:56 AM
rick 918-S   Double post. :stooges:   Jul 14 2024, 05:56 AM
technicalninja   Just ran through your thread! So many little ...   Jul 14 2024, 11:58 AM
Montreal914   @[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showu...   Jul 14 2024, 02:21 PM
technicalninja   Thanks for the link! You did the whole puppy...   Jul 14 2024, 02:40 PM
Montreal914   Time for some overdue update. :) As mentioned i...   Aug 26 2024, 08:06 PM
friethmiller   @Montreal914 - good stuff here. I liked your app...   Aug 26 2024, 08:59 PM
Montreal914   @[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?show...   Aug 26 2024, 10:09 PM
Montreal914   Now that the triangle is welded in the engine bay ...   Aug 26 2024, 09:31 PM
Montreal914   Once the inside-inner layer piece composed of thre...   Aug 26 2024, 09:56 PM
friethmiller   Just looking through your latest post / pictures. ...   Aug 27 2024, 06:48 AM
dtmehall   Here are photos from the work in process on my car...   Aug 28 2024, 06:28 PM
dtmehall   btw, the body shop working on my car fabricated al...   Aug 28 2024, 07:23 PM
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