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Flywheel / crank end play, Did I do something wrong? |
adolimpio |
Apr 7 2021, 05:10 PM
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Art Group: Members Posts: 180 Joined: 10-March 10 From: Greenwood SC Member No.: 11,449 Region Association: South East States |
I finished building my engine, which uses a 2.0 crank in a 1.7 case.
My crank end play is 0.0125 without any shims. I've seen that you should use a minimum of 3 shims, but even a single smallest shim puts me at the edge of spec - 0.0125 - .00945 = 0.003. Is this OK? Did I do something wrong assembling? |
Bleyseng |
Apr 7 2021, 08:23 PM
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Aircooled Baby! Group: Members Posts: 13,034 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Seattle, Washington (for now) Member No.: 24 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Did you set the end play before installing the rear main seal?
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adolimpio |
Apr 7 2021, 09:19 PM
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Art Group: Members Posts: 180 Joined: 10-March 10 From: Greenwood SC Member No.: 11,449 Region Association: South East States |
Yes, seal is not installed yet.
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adolimpio |
Apr 8 2021, 04:35 PM
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Art Group: Members Posts: 180 Joined: 10-March 10 From: Greenwood SC Member No.: 11,449 Region Association: South East States |
Problem solve, it was caused by the DACO.
I'm always very organized when I disassemble something so that things remain together and don't get lost. When I removed the fan, I placed the 3 bolts through the spacer and inserted the bolts into the front of the fan, and that's exactly how I reinstalled it. Rather than the spacer being between the fan and the crank, it was in front of the fan causing the space between the fan and fan housing to be reduced, limiting the movement of the crank. I'm definitely a DA, and only hope that I did not make other stupid mistakes that are more serious! |
02loftsmoor |
Apr 8 2021, 08:47 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 577 Joined: 26-June 11 From: Ft. Worth TX Member No.: 13,243 Region Association: Southwest Region |
I'm replacing the Flywheel .
i have Three .010" shims in, and i have .012" end play. what do i need to change?? |
iankarr |
Apr 8 2021, 09:02 PM
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The wrencher formerly known as Cuddy_K Group: Members Posts: 2,471 Joined: 22-May 15 From: Heber City, UT Member No.: 18,749 Region Association: Intermountain Region |
The shims are available in a range of sizes. You'll need to calculate which thicknesses are needed to arrive a total end play of .003 - .005. Remember this is expressed in thousandths of an inch. It's confusing because the shims are sold by the dimension in mm. It's best to order a variety so you have them on hand when you're sorting it all out. You can always return the unused ones. They're not expensive regardless.
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02loftsmoor |
Apr 8 2021, 09:19 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 577 Joined: 26-June 11 From: Ft. Worth TX Member No.: 13,243 Region Association: Southwest Region |
The shims are available in a range of sizes. You'll need to calculate which thicknesses are needed to arrive a total end play of .003 - .005. Remember this is expressed in thousandths of an inch. It's confusing because the shims are sold by the dimension in mm. It's best to order a variety so you have them on hand when you're sorting it all out. You can always return the unused ones. They're not expensive regardless. where do get cheap shims? i saw some for $34 ,, $8 seems he going rate |
iankarr |
Apr 9 2021, 08:53 AM
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The wrencher formerly known as Cuddy_K Group: Members Posts: 2,471 Joined: 22-May 15 From: Heber City, UT Member No.: 18,749 Region Association: Intermountain Region |
Wow...just checked the type 4 store. You're right...7 bucks each. Sheesh. I wonder what happened to crank those up.
Alright then...Put two of your existing shims in and measure. Calculate the end play with those two shims and subtract .004 thou (your target play). If that number is less than .015 (or .38mm...which is the thickest one available), you may only need to buy one shim, depending on where that number falls in the available thicknesses. Make sense? Depending on what number you come up with, I may have one in my stash that you can have... |
Mark Henry |
Apr 9 2021, 09:56 AM
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that's what I do! Group: Members Posts: 20,065 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Port Hope, Ontario Member No.: 26 Region Association: Canada |
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02loftsmoor |
Apr 9 2021, 06:59 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 577 Joined: 26-June 11 From: Ft. Worth TX Member No.: 13,243 Region Association: Southwest Region |
I'm replacing the Flywheel . i have Three .010" shims in, and i have .012" end play. what do i need to change?? So you need .038" worth of shims to get .004" end play, a combo of shims like .012" + .012" + .014" = .038" will work. thank you for the tip!! shims on order |
Mark Henry |
Apr 10 2021, 06:13 AM
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that's what I do! Group: Members Posts: 20,065 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Port Hope, Ontario Member No.: 26 Region Association: Canada |
When you get the shims be sure to test fit first. You must be sure that your measuring and my maths are correct.
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02loftsmoor |
Apr 11 2021, 08:18 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 577 Joined: 26-June 11 From: Ft. Worth TX Member No.: 13,243 Region Association: Southwest Region |
When you get the shims be sure to test fit first. You must be sure that your measuring and my maths are correct. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) will do, I had a hard time wrapping my head a round this, thanks every one for the help .. |
02loftsmoor |
Apr 11 2021, 08:24 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 577 Joined: 26-June 11 From: Ft. Worth TX Member No.: 13,243 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Wow...just checked the type 4 store. You're right...7 bucks each. Sheesh. I wonder what happened to crank those up. Alright then...Put two of your existing shims in and measure. Calculate the end play with those two shims and subtract .004 thou (your target play). If that number is less than .015 (or .38mm...which is the thickest one available), you may only need to buy one shim, depending on where that number falls in the available thicknesses. Make sense? Depending on what number you come up with, I may have one in my stash that you can have... I didn't know about your videos , dang watching them now !! |
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