914 Electric Conversion, 914 electric conversion Options

[AmblerEV]

Ambler EV is going to officially unveil our full 914 electric conversion at our grand opening June 5, 207 & 211 South Main Street, Ambler PA. For those of you in the Philadelphia area, stop by and see the future. For those of you outside the Philadelphia area, follow our page on Facebook to see more teasers as the day get closer www.facebook.com/Amblerev. For those of you attempting this yourself, I am happy to talk end specs but questions about components used or design will not be answered (EV West is your source for that). If you are interested in buying a full electric 914 (or converting your 914 roller) so that it can handle level 2 charging, has a range over 200 miles, and will no longer contain any vacuum or 40 year old EFI electronics, stop by or email me at sam@amblerev.com.

[mepstein]

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[914forme]

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@AmblerEV

So 200 miles range.
Speed improvements?
Charing time, and requirements?
Weight added or subtracted from the chassis? How has the CG and distribution been moved?
Rear Wheel drive, AWD, 4 independent wheel motors. Do I loose the transmission?
Do I gain space, regenerative braking?
Can I run the wheels separate with input controls to make the car turn better, or in an odd case drive the wheels in opposite direction to build a spinning top 914? Won't need to back in or out of the garage anymore.
Everything fit with out cutting, odd welding, and none impressive design like some others I have seen?

So many questions come up with out me even wanting to build one.

What do you and your company really bring to this experience? What makes you better than an EV West or another shop doing this conversion?

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Even if it is a blurred out teaser shot

[JeffBowlsby]

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[914forme]

@AmblerEV good luck with your launch wish you the best with your new endeavor.

[Spoke]

They have a video on Youtube from a year ago.

They describe details of the 914 conversion:

Converting a classic 914 porsche
we are going for 60-70mph top speed, 200 miles of range , and to keep as much as possible stock incase we want to convert it back!
we are using an ME1003 motor alltrax 72500 controller , 44kw of chevy Bolt batteries an emus BMS and all stock gauges! AMBLER EV and DIYGUY

[nditiz1]

60-70 mph top speed??? This won't even be able to keep up with traffic on some PA highways.

I would much rather reduce distance and gain greater top speed. Better to have and not need then need it and not have.

[914e]

They have a video on Youtube from a year ago.

They describe details of the 914 conversion:

Converting a classic 914 porsche
we are going for 60-70mph top speed, 200 miles of range , and to keep as much as possible stock incase we want to convert it back!
we are using an ME1003 motor alltrax 72500 controller , 44kw of chevy Bolt batteries an emus BMS and all stock gauges! AMBLER EV and DIYGUY

That is a 15 HP motor, 26 hp short term. Talk about underpowered.

[Steve]

They have a video on Youtube from a year ago.

They describe details of the 914 conversion:

Converting a classic 914 porsche
we are going for 60-70mph top speed, 200 miles of range , and to keep as much as possible stock incase we want to convert it back!
we are using an ME1003 motor alltrax 72500 controller , 44kw of chevy Bolt batteries an emus BMS and all stock gauges! AMBLER EV and DIYGUY

That is a 15 HP motor, 26 hp short term. Talk about underpowered.

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I'm not against electric conversions, but until it supports a 200 mile range without touching the trunks and has the power of a 3.2 six, then it makes no sense to me. Otherwise, I would rather buy a Tesla model 3.

[SirAndy]

we are going for 60-70mph top speed, 200 miles of range , and to keep as much as possible stock incase we want to convert it back!
we are using an ME1003 motor alltrax 72500 controller , 44kw of chevy Bolt batteries an emus BMS and all stock gauges! AMBLER EV and DIYGUY

That is a 15 HP motor, 26 hp short term. Talk about underpowered.

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Otmar did much better than that with his some 15 years ago. That thing was wicked fast. 1000 lbf⋅ft of torque!
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http://evcl.com/914/
https://www.cafeelectric.com/rides.php

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[Chris914n6]

66 lbft of torque and we think a 1.7L is slow. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/yellowsleep[1].gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/yellowsleep[1].gif)

Sorry new guy but you have been outclassed by a 12 yo girl. At least she takes the time to gain knowledge before doing...

[RolinkHaus]

There’s so many things I would like to say and comment on, but I’ll just say good luck with the electric 914 boogey woogey woogey (IMG:style_emoticons/default/piratenanner.gif)

[mrholland2]

I haven't seen any current specs for the proposed conversions. Maybe we could wait to see what those specs are before unleashing the collective krakens? Maybe?

Yes, I do wanna hear "Kum Bah Yah" . . . go ahead. . .ready. . sinnnngggggg!

[76-914]

You asked the same questions lingering in the back of my brain, Stephen. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

[914e]

They have a video on Youtube from a year ago.

They describe details of the 914 conversion:

Converting a classic 914 porsche
we are going for 60-70mph top speed, 200 miles of range , and to keep as much as possible stock incase we want to convert it back!
we are using an ME1003 motor alltrax 72500 controller , 44kw of chevy Bolt batteries an emus BMS and all stock gauges! AMBLER EV and DIYGUY

That is a 15 HP motor, 26 hp short term. Talk about underpowered.

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I'm not against electric conversions, but until it supports a 200 mile range without touching the trunks and has the power of a 3.2 six, then it makes no sense to me. Otherwise, I would rather buy a Tesla model 3.

That would be doable
Using napkin CAD
Peak Torque: 280 Lb Ft Peak
Peak Power: 210 HP Peak
Max RPM: 10,000
About 260 miles range
Over 300 mile range in the city (which is about useless)
Weight would be within about 100 pounds of a stock 6, most of the batteries in the engine bay the rest in place of the gas tank to keep the weight balance close.

The problem would be the cost of about 40K if you did it yourself.

[Big Len]

They have a video on Youtube from a year ago.

They describe details of the 914 conversion:

Converting a classic 914 porsche
we are going for 60-70mph top speed, 200 miles of range , and to keep as much as possible stock incase we want to convert it back!
we are using an ME1003 motor alltrax 72500 controller , 44kw of chevy Bolt batteries an emus BMS and all stock gauges! AMBLER EV and DIYGUY

That is a 15 HP motor, 26 hp short term. Talk about underpowered.

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif)
I'm not against electric conversions, but until it supports a 200 mile range without touching the trunks and has the power of a 3.2 six, then it makes no sense to me. Otherwise, I would rather buy a Tesla model 3.

That would be doable
Using napkin CAD
Peak Torque: 280 Lb Ft Peak
Peak Power: 210 HP Peak
Max RPM: 10,000
About 260 miles range
Over 300 mile range in the city (which is about useless)
Weight would be within about 100 pounds of a stock 6, most of the batteries in the engine bay the rest in place of the gas tank to keep the weight balance close.

The problem would be the cost of about 40K if you did it yourself.

I have a question - if you had a friend who wanted to electrify his Ferrari Dino, what advice would you give him and why?

[914e]

They have a video on Youtube from a year ago.

They describe details of the 914 conversion:

Converting a classic 914 porsche
we are going for 60-70mph top speed, 200 miles of range , and to keep as much as possible stock incase we want to convert it back!
we are using an ME1003 motor alltrax 72500 controller , 44kw of chevy Bolt batteries an emus BMS and all stock gauges! AMBLER EV and DIYGUY

That is a 15 HP motor, 26 hp short term. Talk about underpowered.

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif)
I'm not against electric conversions, but until it supports a 200 mile range without touching the trunks and has the power of a 3.2 six, then it makes no sense to me. Otherwise, I would rather buy a Tesla model 3.

That would be doable
Using napkin CAD
Peak Torque: 280 Lb Ft Peak
Peak Power: 210 HP Peak
Max RPM: 10,000
About 260 miles range
Over 300 mile range in the city (which is about useless)
Weight would be within about 100 pounds of a stock 6, most of the batteries in the engine bay the rest in place of the gas tank to keep the weight balance close.

The problem would be the cost of about 40K if you did it yourself.

I have a question - if you had a friend who wanted to electrify his Ferrari Dino, what advice would you give him and why?

It is hard to find many good pictures of the Dino chassis. Since the engine and transaxle are likely to be pretty rare and the transaxle seems to be part of the sump.
I would look to building a cradle to pick up the the existing mounting points and mount a small Tesla motor and gearbox. Have custom half-shafts made. Find which batteries will fit best in the remaining engine bay space, and in the tank space.

EV west and Electric GT converted a 308 that had burned in an engine fire. That would be a good place to start.

Electric Classic Cars in England also did a 308, I have not seen a Dino converted. Defiantly not as easy as a 911 or a Bug where you switch back and forth between electric and gas in an afternoon. A 914 is little harder since the battery boxes are exposed to the elements and the gas tank is a pain.

[Big Len]

They have a video on Youtube from a year ago.

They describe details of the 914 conversion:

Converting a classic 914 porsche
we are going for 60-70mph top speed, 200 miles of range , and to keep as much as possible stock incase we want to convert it back!
we are using an ME1003 motor alltrax 72500 controller , 44kw of chevy Bolt batteries an emus BMS and all stock gauges! AMBLER EV and DIYGUY

That is a 15 HP motor, 26 hp short term. Talk about underpowered.

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif)
I'm not against electric conversions, but until it supports a 200 mile range without touching the trunks and has the power of a 3.2 six, then it makes no sense to me. Otherwise, I would rather buy a Tesla model 3.

That would be doable
Using napkin CAD
Peak Torque: 280 Lb Ft Peak
Peak Power: 210 HP Peak
Max RPM: 10,000
About 260 miles range
Over 300 mile range in the city (which is about useless)
Weight would be within about 100 pounds of a stock 6, most of the batteries in the engine bay the rest in place of the gas tank to keep the weight balance close.

The problem would be the cost of about 40K if you did it yourself.

I have a question - if you had a friend who wanted to electrify his Ferrari Dino, what advice would you give him and why?

It is hard to find many good pictures of the Dino chassis. Since the engine and transaxle are likely to be pretty rare and the transaxle seems to be part of the sump.
I would look to building a cradle to pick up the the existing mounting points and mount a small Tesla motor and gearbox. Have custom half-shafts made. Find which batteries will fit best in the remaining engine bay space, and in the tank space.

EV west and Electric GT converted a 308 that had burned in an engine fire. That would be a good place to start.

Electric Classic Cars in England also did a 308, I have not seen a Dino converted. Defiantly not as easy as a 911 or a Bug where you switch back and forth between electric and gas in an afternoon. A 914 is little harder since the battery boxes are exposed to the elements and the gas tank is a pain.

I wasn't really asking about the tecnicalities of the conversion. I was more curious of would you do it on such a rare car. For me, it's more of a morality question.
I find your answer repugnant and I wish you'd stay away from the cars we love.

[Steve]

They have a video on Youtube from a year ago.

They describe details of the 914 conversion:

Converting a classic 914 porsche
we are going for 60-70mph top speed, 200 miles of range , and to keep as much as possible stock incase we want to convert it back!
we are using an ME1003 motor alltrax 72500 controller , 44kw of chevy Bolt batteries an emus BMS and all stock gauges! AMBLER EV and DIYGUY

That is a 15 HP motor, 26 hp short term. Talk about underpowered.

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif)
I'm not against electric conversions, but until it supports a 200 mile range without touching the trunks and has the power of a 3.2 six, then it makes no sense to me. Otherwise, I would rather buy a Tesla model 3.

That would be doable
Using napkin CAD
Peak Torque: 280 Lb Ft Peak
Peak Power: 210 HP Peak
Max RPM: 10,000
About 260 miles range
Over 300 mile range in the city (which is about useless)
Weight would be within about 100 pounds of a stock 6, most of the batteries in the engine bay the rest in place of the gas tank to keep the weight balance close.

The problem would be the cost of about 40K if you did it yourself.

Thanks for the response!! But for $40k I would rather have the Tesla model 3.
Maybe the technology will get cheaper over time, like everything else.

[914e]

They have a video on Youtube from a year ago.

They describe details of the 914 conversion:

Converting a classic 914 porsche
we are going for 60-70mph top speed, 200 miles of range , and to keep as much as possible stock incase we want to convert it back!
we are using an ME1003 motor alltrax 72500 controller , 44kw of chevy Bolt batteries an emus BMS and all stock gauges! AMBLER EV and DIYGUY

That is a 15 HP motor, 26 hp short term. Talk about underpowered.

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif)
I'm not against electric conversions, but until it supports a 200 mile range without touching the trunks and has the power of a 3.2 six, then it makes no sense to me. Otherwise, I would rather buy a Tesla model 3.

That would be doable
Using napkin CAD
Peak Torque: 280 Lb Ft Peak
Peak Power: 210 HP Peak
Max RPM: 10,000
About 260 miles range
Over 300 mile range in the city (which is about useless)
Weight would be within about 100 pounds of a stock 6, most of the batteries in the engine bay the rest in place of the gas tank to keep the weight balance close.

The problem would be the cost of about 40K if you did it yourself.

I have a question - if you had a friend who wanted to electrify his Ferrari Dino, what advice would you give him and why?

It is hard to find many good pictures of the Dino chassis. Since the engine and transaxle are likely to be pretty rare and the transaxle seems to be part of the sump.
I would look to building a cradle to pick up the the existing mounting points and mount a small Tesla motor and gearbox. Have custom half-shafts made. Find which batteries will fit best in the remaining engine bay space, and in the tank space.

EV west and Electric GT converted a 308 that had burned in an engine fire. That would be a good place to start.

Electric Classic Cars in England also did a 308, I have not seen a Dino converted. Defiantly not as easy as a 911 or a Bug where you switch back and forth between electric and gas in an afternoon. A 914 is little harder since the battery boxes are exposed to the elements and the gas tank is a pain.

I wasn't really asking about the tecnicalities of the conversion. I was more curious of would you do it on such a rare car. For me, it's more of a morality question.
I find your answer repugnant and I wish you'd stay away from the cars we love.

If you wanted to preserve the rare engine, but still enjoy driving the car why would you not? The rarer the engine the more likely I would convert it, I don't see a reason to consume the last of some rare parts, just to drive the car a few times month.

If the car does not have an engine anymore would you rather just scrap it? Mine hasn't had an engine for decades. The burned 308 kept a handful of other 308's drivable and itself back on the road.

How is it different than installing a six? far less modifications. For many classic car conversions the modifications to body, chassis, interior, and wiring are exactly zero, for many that is the point.