 914 V8 or Pantera Detomaso, WHich would your prefer |
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| Lou W |
 Jul 22 2005, 11:59 AM
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"Here Kitty Kitty" my ass......  Group: Members Posts: 4,109 Joined: 9-May 04 From: Roseburg, OR. Member No.: 2,039 Region Association: Spain  |
Pantera (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif)
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| tat2dphreak |
Jul 22 2005, 12:05 PM
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stoya, stoya, stoya Group: Benefactors Posts: 8,797 Joined: 6-June 03 From: Wylie, TX Member No.: 792 Region Association: Southwest Region  |
I'd give my left nut for a pantera, how's that for value! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif)
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| grantsfo |
Jul 22 2005, 12:08 PM
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Arrrrhhhh! Group: Members Posts: 4,327 Joined: 16-March 03 Member No.: 433 Region Association: None |
Pantera by a wide margin. They have a big showing at annual Concorso Italiano in Monterey. Some of the Panteras there are just incredible.
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| redshift |
Jul 22 2005, 12:11 PM
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Bless the Hell out of you! Group: Members Posts: 10,926 Joined: 29-June 03 Member No.: 869 |
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Damn! You just missed my Pantera rant. It's not an everyday driver. Being a 74, it'll have the upgrades that made the earlier ones trouble.. and it'll have one more thing.. The driver: The seat is too low for my shoulders (6'0") the pedals are where your knees go in a 914, and the steering wheel is far enough away to give you severe back pain, after multiple days of just commuting 30 minutes.. But, chicks will stop to look at your crotch. M |
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| Ferg |
Jul 22 2005, 12:15 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,948 Joined: 8-January 03 From: Boulder CO Member No.: 116 Region Association: None 
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I was going to say the same thing... There was a blue one with polished everything, (trans, axles, everthing) that was just unreal. I talked to that guy for at least half an hour, he was a big fan of 914-6's as well. Ferg. |
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| tyler |
Jul 22 2005, 12:41 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 335 Joined: 24-September 03 From: southern california Member No.: 1,192 |
914 V8 all the way (which I have now). I bought a new Pantera in 74 for $10k and had it for 6 years. Granted it looks and sounds absolutely great but nothing could be more uncomfortable driving any kind of distance - I drove from LA to Vegas and couldn't move when I got out (and I was only 30 then) since there's no position change once you're in place- it has nothing off the line, build for high speed (geared high)- I got the speedometer up to 140 on the way to Vegas and you'd think you were doing 60, smooth and quiet, except for the telephone poles blurring by - it's made to "drive"; high speed on windy roads so if that's what yu want, that's it. I'd rather get between the lights faster. I've always been surprised that they're not worth more money these days. I suggest you check around real good for the prices since I haven't seen them really selling for high prices.
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| scruz914 |
Jul 22 2005, 01:02 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 815 Joined: 26-February 04 From: Santa Cruz, CA Member No.: 1,724 |
Pantera!
Screw the driving position and comfort. I would find out why it is not running though. I am not so sure that the engine would be "cheap" to rebuild. What would be uncomforatble is pushing it to a local hang out just to sit in it and have the women look at your crotch. Sounds like if it was parked in running condition it is nothing more than battery and fluids. You might want to put in a good battery and make sure all of the electircal stuff works. Rodents may have been nibbling away. Once you are tired of it sell at a profit and buy several 914s! |
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| Andyrew |
Jul 22 2005, 01:07 PM
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Spooling.... Please wait Group: Members Posts: 13,377 Joined: 20-January 03 From: Riverbank, Ca Member No.: 172 Region Association: Northern California
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Pantera can hold the hp and tq much better than the 914 can. In stock condition.
Besides, its just cool!!! |
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| tat2dphreak |
Jul 22 2005, 01:08 PM
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stoya, stoya, stoya Group: Benefactors Posts: 8,797 Joined: 6-June 03 From: Wylie, TX Member No.: 792 Region Association: Southwest Region |
IIRC, the engine is just a FORD(351 IIRC)... not that expensive to rebuild...
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| Eddie Williams |
Jul 22 2005, 01:11 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 822 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Nederland, TX Member No.: 55 Region Association: None |
Pretty good.... unless your Lance Armstrong!! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/lol2.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/laugh.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/chairfall.gif) |
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| Dr. Roger |
Jul 22 2005, 02:02 PM
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A bat out of hell. Group: Members Posts: 3,944 Joined: 31-January 05 From: Hercules, California Member No.: 3,533 Region Association: Northern California |
I've driven and joy-ridden a Pantera. Got busted in Placervile Safeway parking lot doing doughnuts in it.... Bachelor party. Long story. LOL
I'm 6'2" and it was a tight fit... My penis received a default extension of 4 more inches. The result was lots of attention. If I took $25,000 and placed it squarely in one bad ass teen, I'd have a grande verga and I'd stomp almost everything on the road. Quick and fast! The 351C motor isn't all that great. All my Chevelle's could stomp them. |
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| BMartin914 |
Jul 22 2005, 02:06 PM
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The one that doesn't cost 30K
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| tat2dphreak |
Jul 22 2005, 02:07 PM
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stoya, stoya, stoya Group: Benefactors Posts: 8,797 Joined: 6-June 03 From: Wylie, TX Member No.: 792 Region Association: Southwest Region |
351 W was different and could be bored out to a 400 IIRC |
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| sanman |
Jul 22 2005, 03:02 PM
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Leaving California Group: Members Posts: 341 Joined: 17-June 04 From: Houston, TX Member No.: 2,219 Region Association: None |
not too good, your left one is only worth a single rusted pantera windshield wiper blade screw (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif) |
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| airsix |
Jul 22 2005, 03:04 PM
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I have bees in my epiglotis Group: Members Posts: 2,196 Joined: 7-February 03 From: Kennewick Man (E. WA State) Member No.: 266 |
The 351 in the Pantera is the Cleavland, not the Windsor. Windsors are cheaper becuase there are more of them, but the Cleavland has better heads for a hi-po motor.
-Ben M. |
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| redshift |
Jul 22 2005, 03:07 PM
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Bless the Hell out of you! Group: Members Posts: 10,926 Joined: 29-June 03 Member No.: 869 |
I had a '72 with all the upgrades done for a few weeks, when I was B/S/T Ford stuff. It still ran hot, was hot, and loud, inside only. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smile.gif) Here, let me illustrate the ergonomics, by showing you the test body they used to design it: Attached image(s) 
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| Dr. Roger |
Jul 22 2005, 03:07 PM
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A bat out of hell. Group: Members Posts: 3,944 Joined: 31-January 05 From: Hercules, California Member No.: 3,533 Region Association: Northern California |
Thank you Ben, I was just going to say that. =-)))
FYI, The "magic" happens in the heads...... |
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| bondo |
Jul 22 2005, 03:11 PM
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Practicing my perpendicular parking Group: Members Posts: 4,277 Joined: 19-April 03 From: Los Osos, CA Member No.: 587 Region Association: Central California |
The windsor is a small block, the cleavland is a big block. A windsor with modern heads might be pretty nice, being the same displacement but lighter.
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| tat2dphreak |
Jul 22 2005, 03:19 PM
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stoya, stoya, stoya Group: Benefactors Posts: 8,797 Joined: 6-June 03 From: Wylie, TX Member No.: 792 Region Association: Southwest Region |
(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/agree.gif) I've seen plenty of warmed up windsors and they can put out some power. maybe it would be "wrong" to change the engine in a pantera, but I don't see a problem with it if you want more power |
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| lapuwali |
Jul 22 2005, 03:20 PM
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Not another one! Group: Benefactors Posts: 4,526 Joined: 1-March 04 From: San Mateo, CA Member No.: 1,743 |
There is or was a Pantera only shop in Mountain View when I lived down there. The owner said the two biggest problems with them were they overheated very easily, and even when the engine wasn't overheating, the driver often was. The gearboxes were/are quite dear, and hard to get parts for, at least in the US.
I've long suspected they're the kind of car that's wonderful to own, and terrible to drive. The Italians are masters at these kinds of cars. No vote on the which way to go question. |
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