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| tat2dphreak |
 Jul 23 2005, 10:41 AM
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stoya, stoya, stoya  Group: Benefactors Posts: 8,797 Joined: 6-June 03 From: Wylie, TX Member No.: 792 Region Association: Southwest Region   |
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| SpecialK |
Jul 23 2005, 10:56 AM
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aircraft surgeon Group: Benefactors Posts: 3,211 Joined: 15-March 04 From: Pacific, MO Member No.: 1,797 |
Something VERY strange going on here. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/huh.gif) I went out and check the same area on my '73, and I have a bolt there in lieu of a stud. I'm guessing that a stud there might interfere with the movement of the clutch release arm.
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| Lou W |
Jul 23 2005, 11:05 AM
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"Here Kitty Kitty" my ass...... Group: Members Posts: 4,109 Joined: 9-May 04 From: Roseburg, OR. Member No.: 2,039 Region Association: Spain |
I took a picture of mine for reference, I hope this helps. I have a stud on mine, with a bolt on the next one up.
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| JWest |
Jul 23 2005, 11:10 AM
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Was this engine attached to a bug trans? I think you got it from (can't remember his name right now) who had it in a bug. In that case it would have needed shorter studs and you need to put in longer ones now.
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| tat2dphreak |
Jul 23 2005, 11:20 AM
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stoya, stoya, stoya Group: Benefactors Posts: 8,797 Joined: 6-June 03 From: Wylie, TX Member No.: 792 Region Association: Southwest Region |
no, this engine was never in a bug... Tom Perso had his 2270 in a bug, not this one... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/confused24.gif) THIS transmission was mated to THIS engine, only 3-4 weeks ago, the stud was long enough then... why not now?! special K, there SHOULD be a stud there... but pulling it and putting a bolt in is starting to sound good... I have a old 1.8 that was in this car before... I'll try and measure the stud on it.. |
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| tat2dphreak |
Jul 23 2005, 11:22 AM
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stoya, stoya, stoya Group: Benefactors Posts: 8,797 Joined: 6-June 03 From: Wylie, TX Member No.: 792 Region Association: Southwest Region |
JESUS Lou, you should delete that pic before 10 people tell you to clean it (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wink.gif)
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| SpecialK |
Jul 23 2005, 12:36 PM
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aircraft surgeon Group: Benefactors Posts: 3,211 Joined: 15-March 04 From: Pacific, MO Member No.: 1,797 |
Just curious...was the stud loose in the block when you removed it, and maybe it got threaded into the block farther by someone? I don't really see how it could shorten all by itself. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/confused24.gif)
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| tat2dphreak |
Jul 23 2005, 12:43 PM
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stoya, stoya, stoya Group: Benefactors Posts: 8,797 Joined: 6-June 03 From: Wylie, TX Member No.: 792 Region Association: Southwest Region |
I *think* the stud is pressed... no, I don't believe it has shortened by itself(it would be a cool trick though) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif) I don't know WHAT's going on though! I don't understand! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/screwy.gif) this is why it feels like I'm never going to get this done in time for MUSR... a job like mating the tranny should take 10 minutes, instead it's been a day! and it's still not done... if someone wants to come over for a closer inspection, LMK! I'm at a loss! |
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| JWest |
Jul 23 2005, 12:52 PM
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No, they are screwed in, just pull the tranny and unscrew it a little. |
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| Allan |
Jul 23 2005, 12:52 PM
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Teenerless Weenie Group: Members Posts: 8,373 Joined: 5-July 04 From: Western Mesopotamia Member No.: 2,304 Region Association: Southern California |
If everything is installed correctly, i.e., flywheel, pressure plate, clutch and throw-out bearing and the tranny mates up to the motor okay if it was me I would just find a longer stud and give it a shot.
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| jr91472 |
Jul 23 2005, 12:57 PM
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"I'm pacing myself sergeant..." Group: Members Posts: 1,205 Joined: 2-August 04 From: McKinney, TX Member No.: 2,437 |
That is some crazy shit Wayne... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/screwy.gif)
Have you fully tighten the other three? Is there enough thread exposed to get the nut started? If so, maybe it will snug the rest of the way on. IIRC, that stud is only barely supposed to extend through, otherwise it will interfere with the TO bearing fork. Otherwise, I would take it back apart and inspect the stud further. Despite how it looks, something is keeping the tranny from mounting completely on the engine. good luck and hang in there.... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/beer.gif) |
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| tat2dphreak |
Jul 23 2005, 01:06 PM
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stoya, stoya, stoya Group: Benefactors Posts: 8,797 Joined: 6-June 03 From: Wylie, TX Member No.: 792 Region Association: Southwest Region |
i guess I'll extend the stud and see what happens... maybe when I loosened the tranny it screwed into the case more?! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/confused24.gif)
the only bolt I didn't put on was the one that holds the starter too... I didn't want to put the starter on, with something obviously wrong... I thought the other 2 bolts would tighten up and leave enough to get this stud stared... but I tore the thread out of 1 bolt trying to get it started... if the stud won't extend enough, I'll pull the stud and put a longer stud or bolt there... thanks guys... I'll let you know tommorrow... I have to go to a dinner tonight for my wife's work, and so, it will be tomorrow before I can get out there again... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/beer.gif) |
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| redshift |
Jul 23 2005, 01:16 PM
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Bless the Hell out of you! Group: Members Posts: 10,926 Joined: 29-June 03 Member No.: 869 |
Lou, did you find that transaxle in a bat cave?
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| SpecialK |
Jul 23 2005, 02:12 PM
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aircraft surgeon Group: Benefactors Posts: 3,211 Joined: 15-March 04 From: Pacific, MO Member No.: 1,797 |
If you're going to extract the stud a bit for nut installation, I think I'd take it all of the way out, and throw a little green lock-tite on the threads going into the block, as well as the nut side. Wouldn't be fun laying on a hot Texas road trying to re-tighten those bolts/nuts. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wink.gif)
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| Tom Perso |
Jul 23 2005, 03:04 PM
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Crazy from the Cold... Group: Members Posts: 647 Joined: 8-August 03 From: Kalamazoo, MI Member No.: 1,003 |
Wayne,
That's weird, those studs are 914 studs. I had the shorter ones on my 2270 and ran into that problem, so I got another set. Let me know if I can do anything to help. Tom |
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| ClayPerrine |
Jul 23 2005, 03:50 PM
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Life's been good to me so far..... Group: Admin Posts: 15,965 Joined: 11-September 03 From: Hurst, TX. Member No.: 1,143 Region Association: NineFourteenerVille
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Wayne,
That stud is supposed to just barely stick through the nut. If it's too long, the clutch arm will hit it. Loosen the existing stud up until it will just barely stick through the nut when everything is tite. Make sure that you put some locktite on the stud before you button everything up. |
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| tat2dphreak |
Jul 23 2005, 03:54 PM
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stoya, stoya, stoya Group: Benefactors Posts: 8,797 Joined: 6-June 03 From: Wylie, TX Member No.: 792 Region Association: Southwest Region |
red locktite or green? should all of the nuts and bolts have loctite?
yea tom, this IS weird! like I said I didn't change anything with these studs, and now this one seems short... actually both bottom ones seem a little short, but the opposite side will work... |
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| Katmanken |
Jul 23 2005, 04:04 PM
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You haven't seen me if anybody asks... Group: Members Posts: 4,738 Joined: 14-June 03 From: USA Member No.: 819 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
Iffin you use green, you are never, ever, going to be able to remove it.
Used some of that green stuff to fill gaps on some printer parts. Wasn't right so we soaked it in the nastiest board cleaner (MEK?)we had for 24 hours. It still took a 5 lb sledge and viloent pounding for 15 minuutes to push a pin from a hole with .050 gap filled with "green". (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/blink.gif) Tough stuff and permanant. Ken |
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| ClayPerrine |
Jul 23 2005, 04:06 PM
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Life's been good to me so far..... Group: Admin Posts: 15,965 Joined: 11-September 03 From: Hurst, TX. Member No.: 1,143 Region Association: NineFourteenerVille
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Figure out how long the stud needs to be. Then remove the stud and put just a dab of red on the threads and put it back in the engine case.
Assemble your engine/trans combo. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/clap.gif) And stop worrying so much!!! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif) |
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| tat2dphreak |
Jul 23 2005, 04:10 PM
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stoya, stoya, stoya Group: Benefactors Posts: 8,797 Joined: 6-June 03 From: Wylie, TX Member No.: 792 Region Association: Southwest Region |
thing hasn't been on the road in 2 years, and it looks like granbury will be the first trip in that time... IF it's ready... and right now, that's a big IF... I AM nervous about it, but anxious and frustrated too... like I said, some of these 10 minute jobs have eaten whole days... it sux. |
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