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> won eBay auction for 1970 914, hope its not a scam…
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post Jul 14 2021, 07:35 PM
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With '0' feedback, and all the other sketchy info posted above, I'd run and take the hit on ebay as a non-paying bidder.

Even if you have to pay the $500. deposit, it's better than getting screwed for $12k

That car isn't worth half the bid price IMHO

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post Jul 15 2021, 09:04 AM
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QUOTE(jim_hoyland @ Jul 14 2021, 07:55 PM) *

It’s ( 4702910009 ) in the VIN database,
Description reads “ 1970 Porsche 914 . We are the original owners bought it brand new, original matching number 4 cylinder engine . all original no rust everything works, 100% complete . No rust at all. It has been in California all of its life. Floorboards no rust trunk no rust bug no rust. Runs and drives. All gauges works . Both head lights work great they go up and down. We our the original owners. And original blue and yellow California license plate.
80000 original, one-owner miles, TMU. No engine bay cover shown in pictures. Very rough shape. Paint very faded.“

I added the car to the VIN database with information from the eBay ad. The last part with the mileage, engine bay cover missing, and my opinion of the condition and faded paint is from my casual observation of the pictures.

I agree with taking the hit as a non-paying buyer on eBay including the deposit if you can't get it back before paying the full bid price and taking a much larger hit. But all it takes is money to fix it up again, lots of money.
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post Jul 15 2021, 11:08 AM
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The same EBay ad ran 2 weeks before - and sold for about the same $$.
Then reappeared with exactly the same as.
And the seller still showing 0 sales.
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post Jul 15 2021, 11:40 AM
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Hi all,

Thanks for the input - yes, the plan is to see it in person on Monday (and pay then).

> Michael
> I am only about 25 minutes south of Pleasant Hill.

Thanks! DM sent!

> Looks like a respray on the outside?

Yes - supposedly repainted in the 80s.

> no engine bay lid/cover

Seller did send photos of photos of the engine lid on the passenger seat. No idea why it was removed. Via Facetime the seller did start and walk around the car with it idling. Tires are too old to drive any distance.

> That car isn't worth half the bid price IMHO

I don't agree - obviously which is why I bid it there. I think ~$12k for an unmolested, no/little rust, no accident, complete, running (even if rough), one owner 1970 1.7 with cosmetic issues is a good price (now a days). Car seems to be very complete - has early chrome bumpers, passenger footrest, all keys, odo works, etc. The white stamping/paint still on the engine tin makes it appear the engine has never been removed or rebuilt (as seller claims).

> An odd color for 1970.

Yes - I *think* it's Gemini Blue which would be pretty cool.

> The same EBay ad ran 2 weeks before - and sold for about the same $$.

Really? I can't seem to find a history of that... Anyways, seeing it in person will resolve this all. Stay tuned..

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post Jul 15 2021, 01:03 PM
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completed listings.

Lots of reasons cars get relisted on Ebay so can't make assumptions.

Get a second opinion "verifying" before driving out there, then pay at pickup. A reasonable seller would be OK with that.

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post Jul 15 2021, 06:31 PM
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Good luck with the purchase and welcome aboard
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post Jul 15 2021, 07:04 PM
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I'm in Concord ... the city next to Pleasant Hill.
Any way I can be of help let me know

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post Jul 15 2021, 09:56 PM
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We have plenty of local members..... all willing to help.

Hell..... I bet I can speak for Chris (Tygaboy) that we could even use his enclosed trailer to pick up the car for you, if you wanted.

We would tuck her away for you, ready for you to pick her up without worry.

Anything to help.

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post Jul 15 2021, 10:32 PM
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QUOTE(930cabman @ Jul 15 2021, 05:31 PM) *

Good luck with the purchase and welcome aboard


Uh, he’s a long time member. Built, raced, crashed and restored a real six.
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post Jul 16 2021, 05:36 AM
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QUOTE(KELTY360 @ Jul 16 2021, 12:32 AM) *

QUOTE(930cabman @ Jul 15 2021, 05:31 PM) *

Good luck with the purchase and welcome aboard


Uh, he’s a long time member. Built, raced, crashed and restored a real six.

Along with his beautiful green restored six.
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post Jul 16 2021, 09:48 AM
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That area is surrounded with teeners. As for its worth? If it truly is rust free, and with its black and yellow plate it likely is original owner and original miles, you might have stolen it!

Be sure to get all the local teener dudes to come with you!
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post Jul 16 2021, 09:57 AM
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> Uh, he’s a long time member. Built, raced, crashed and restored a real six.

My orange 3.6 six was originally a 1974 2.0. The only original six I've had was the Irish Green one and didn't crash that one! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

I have owned 5 other 914s including another 1970 1.7. I know it's weird, but I like the early 1.7 cars.

Michael/Cairo94507 is taking a look today so stay tuned!

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post Jul 16 2021, 10:15 AM
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Steve, keep us all posted, this could be a good score or an ouch. Either way, got my fingers crossed for you!
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post Jul 16 2021, 01:53 PM
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QUOTE(siverson @ Jul 16 2021, 08:57 AM) *

> Uh, he’s a long time member. Built, raced, crashed and restored a real six.

My orange 3.6 six was originally a 1974 2.0. The only original six I've had was the Irish Green one and didn't crash that one! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

I have owned 5 other 914s including another 1970 1.7. I know it's weird, but I like the early 1.7 cars.

Michael/Cairo94507 is taking a look today so stay tuned!

-Steve

My mistake Steve; but it doesn’t change my respect. I’ve followed your 914 adventures for some time, including that great garage build…proper priorities Hope this buy turns out to be a score.
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post Jul 16 2021, 08:43 PM
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The early ones have a special charm to them.
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post Jul 16 2021, 09:06 PM
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I know a lot of people are not in love with EBay, but I have bought a car in New York, paid in full, knew it might be a scam, waited 2weeks, placed a complaint. got all my money back. I believe will help you out if there are issues.
Good luck, I hope everything works in your favor!
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post Jul 18 2021, 11:48 PM
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hi all - michael checked out the car for me on friday and sent a bunch of pictures.

summary: 1 - it doesnt appear to be a scam as the car was there, the seller continues to communicate and all checks out on that front. the seller is fine waiting for payment until i pick it up.

2 - the car also seems to be as advertised from michaels photos and review. a largely unmolested, original, little/no rust 1.7.

so, its still a go on my end i hope to have it home for a full inspection sometime this week. im not quite sure what my plan is for the car, but it has been motivating to get me to finish my orange car so i think im going to finish my orange car before doing anything significant to this one.

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post Jul 19 2021, 02:19 AM
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I'm still not sure if the car was worth the price, but as the saying goes, "it's worth what someone's willing to pay" (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif)

Glad to hear you weren't scammed, and hope you're satisfied with the purchase when you have it in your hands. Based on the build of your orange car, I'm sure you'll do a fine job sorting out the new one (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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QUOTE(siverson @ Jul 18 2021, 11:48 PM) *

hi all - michael checked out the car for me on friday and sent a bunch of pictures.

summary: 1 - it doesnt appear to be a scam as the car was there, the seller continues to communicate and all checks out on that front. the seller is fine waiting for payment until i pick it up.

2 - the car also seems to be as advertised from michaels photos and review. a largely unmolested, original, little/no rust 1.7.

so, its still a go on my end i hope to have it home for a full inspection sometime this week. im not quite sure what my plan is for the car, but it has been motivating to get me to finish my orange car so i think im going to finish my orange car before doing anything significant to this one.

-steve


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