914 GT 3.6 Ferrari Build, - Mechanicals coming along, electronics soon! Options

[waltonsm]

I was thinking further about the location and orientation of the engine/trans. What is the oiling strategy for the transmission? Are there any specific angles or pickup
Levels you are going to need to maintain?

@waltonsm - There's nothing special required. The drive train sits dead level in the car. It does have an interesting (factory) H20-to-transmission gear oil heat exchanger that normally sits in the valley, under the intake plenum, but I plan to replace that with a standard trans cooler.
And I saw your comment in the WCR thread about this being at the 2024 event. But I ain't waiting that long: it'll be running/driving at the 2023 event. :shades2:

Cool!

I know that in the VR6/dsg we have in the corrado race car that the coolant/trans cooler is also intended as a heater to get the oil up to temp quick. We looked into removing it for a while, but ultimately we are still running it.

[tygaboy]

Thursday, August 11, 2022: Project F-NARP officially begins. @horizontally-opposed Pete - it's really happening!
The pristine chassis has been sliced and diced - and haters gonna hate but I did it anyway.
Some before and after to get things going.

I'm going to try and preserve the rear section of the trunk and use the factory metal to build an abbreviated sorta golf bag sized trunk area so there's at least some sealed storage/luggage capability.

[tygaboy]

Successful first day's work with the initial clearance cuts made and a first attempt at drive train fit. So, what do we know at this point?
- the whole thing needs to come up about 2" which means the 914 trans cross bar and the trunk floor immediately behind the Ferrari trans hanger mount need to be notched and raised maybe 3-4".
- the cam belt drives are contacting the firewall so either the drive train moves back or the firewall gets notched, or a little of both.
- the axle angle is great and I can move things forward or back and still be well in range of acceptable to the CVs.
- it looks awesome!

[tygaboy]

Rear of trans showing how close things are. What you wouldn't know is there are transmission cooler lines that need to fit up there, too. So, as I mentioned, it'll get notched.

[tygaboy]

Nice output flange-to-stub axle alignment, with room to go forward or backward and still have happy CV joints.

[tygaboy]

The engine seems so small - and it is, compared to the LS. Well, untill you remember to put the intake back in place!

[mikey63]

Looking good Chris! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sawzall-smiley.gif)

[SirAndy]

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[Superhawk996]

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This one is gonna be really cool.

[tygaboy]

A couple more pics to finish out Day 1:
Even though it's a relatively small engine, by the time you get all the ancillary system components bolted on, it ends up a pretty large overall size envelope. Here it is with the rest of the intake and the oil/air separater.
Note that the ECU I'm planning to use eliminates those MAF (mass air flow) sensors in favor of MAP (manifold absolute pressure) so everything from those corregated bellows on back will be gone.
Also, I'll cut and tip the ends of the plenums so the throttle bodies aim downward and dive down under the trunk.

That cross bar will have tabs added and it'll serve as the main upper trans mount, as well as adding some strength to that area of the chassis. It'll also be tied into the chassis in ways I haven't yet worked out...! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) There's also a lower trans mount tab that I think I can tie up to the factory 914 trans mounting points, so that's pretty cool.

[tygaboy]

And finally, a super rough idea of the abbreviated trunk - and yes, it'll seal against the underside of the trunk lid! It'll probably be a bit smaller than what's implied here, and clearly needs a bunch of fab, but you get the idea.

I'm digging this, big time! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

[Cairo94507]

@tygaboy - Hey Chris, Nice progress. And, a mini-trunk is better than no trunk. I think that is going to look cool. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

[SirAndy]

And finally, a super rough idea of the abbreviated trunk - and yes, it'll seal against the underside of the trunk lid! It'll probably be a bit smaller than what's implied here, and clearly needs a bunch of fab, but you get the idea.

Are you going to cut the top down to fit? That would be awesome!
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[tygaboy]

And finally, a super rough idea of the abbreviated trunk - and yes, it'll seal against the underside of the trunk lid! It'll probably be a bit smaller than what's implied here, and clearly needs a bunch of fab, but you get the idea.

Are you going to cut the top down to fit? That would be awesome!
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@SirAndy - Better than that is I'm noodling on modifying an early 911 targa top - the ones that fold up - to work on this car. It would fit in this trunk! No promises but...

[jb_11]

tygaboy, I followed you here from the RacerBenz thread at GRM and have been watching your builds with admiration for awhile. Amazing work. Thanks for sharing so many details (good and bad). It's great to see the process.

That mini trunk mockup really reminds me of a Cayman rear trunk.

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[markhoward]

Love the trunk Chris. Can’t wait to put my eyes on the car.

[eric9144]

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[tygaboy]

F-NARP build, Day 2.
Let's start with the obvious: No, I likely won't keep up this pace. I'm just so excited to be back to fabrication and noodling on design and "engineering" (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif)
But I was back at it bright and early this morning and rough cut the rear of the trunk so I could get the drive train to final height. Here's where we ended up at the back.
I didn't fully remove that floor piece as I was thinking I may be able to bend it and retain the factory seam where it attaches the the rear panel. It'll need cutting at some point but I want to do as little re-work as possible.

[tygaboy]

There's now clearance at the cam belts but I don't have the covers on there so it's likely thing will have to move rearward a bit.

[tygaboy]

Here's the important part: the bottom of the drive train is higher than the bottom of the chassis. Maybe hard to tell from this pic but it's higher. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cheer.gif)

And just LOOK at that COLOR! It's so cool...

Also, before you get too excited, those /6 mounts will have to come out. The driver's side colides with the alternator and it just doesn't make sense to try and use them "just because they're already there".