914 GT 3.6 Ferrari Build, - Mechanicals coming along, electronics soon! Options

[tygaboy]

And with everything in position, I have this much clearance from the air/oil separater to a stowed targa top.

Have you thought about the fact that with no trunk floor in the way, the headliner is going to get absolutely filthy with road grime every time you drive it with the top off?

If it were me, I would cut about 10mm out of the neck to provide clearance so it doesn't rub the headliner.

@ClayPerrine - There is a plan for a removable trunk liner. I try to cover all the things I'm thinking/planning at some point in the various videos and I mentioned it at some point in a recent episode. But I do talk a lot in these and much of it is probably boring. I'm still working on how to improve my content, determine what's interesting vs. not, etc.

As to shortening the neck: it's not that simple as it's not just a neck. Lots of "stuff" happening in there and it runs all the way to the top. I'll try and remember to get a pic of the inside.

[tygaboy]

Have you considered cutting the trunk a little further and making a piece to connect the rear halves of the engine cover (following the lines of the plenums). I’m not sure if you have room for that and still clear the targa top though? It would put stability back into the engine lid and would look pretty cool.

@East coaster - Yes, I have. If I go with a one-piece lid, there will have to be some sort of of connection at the back. I've got a few ideas. Here's a VERY early/simple one that Martin noodled up when I first cut the trunk notch, just to the ball rolling. Lot of detail missing, only 2D but you have to start somewhere.

[East coaster]

Have you considered cutting the trunk a little further and making a piece to connect the rear halves of the engine cover (following the lines of the plenums). I’m not sure if you have room for that and still clear the targa top though? It would put stability back into the engine lid and would look pretty cool.

@East coaster - Yes, I have. If I go with a one-piece lid, there will have to be some sort of of connection at the back. I've got a few ideas. Here's a VERY early/simple one that Martin noodled up when I first cut the trunk notch, just to the ball rolling. Lot of detail missing, only 2D but you have to start somewhere.

Bingo!

[Cairo94507]

For a first rendering, that looks great. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer.gif)

[KELTY360]

For a first rendering, that looks great. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer.gif)

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) But I'd ditch the prancing horse logo. It's a bit much and it detracts from that gorgeous plenum with the Ferrari script. After all, that's the real story.

Maybe you should design your own logo and put it front and center. A Red Barn theme would be perfect. You could even cut a barn shape instead of the circle to add some intrigue.

[technicalninja]

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Someday I'll build an (oversized!) replica of a 57 pontoon fendered Testa Rossa.

I will DEFENITLEY not use any Ferrari insignia. I will not call it a Testa Rossa!

They (Ferrari) protect their brand VICIOUSLY!

Instant lawyers...

That IS NOT a Ferrari!

It is a "Red Barn" production, however!

You really should have a logo anyway...

Might modify a Porsche crest to fit in the yellow "flag".
I'd probably use another color other than yellow there.

Found this on the internet. Still too close to Ferrari for me but might give an idea.

https://www.etsy.com/listing/1313230570/stu...BSABEgIWJ_D_BwE

[tygaboy]

@Kelty360 @technicalninja - It absolutely won't have any Ferrari logo added anywhere.
That Ferrari cavallino badging was Martin playing with adding some style points to the middle spar, which probably won't be part of the design anyway.

But I may go with something like this on some custom center caps, which I think would be perfect. IYKYK sort of thing.

[technicalninja]

That's KICK ASS!

Perfect.

Only problem...

ALL of the emblems need to match now!

[ClayPerrine]

@Kelty360 @technicalninja - It absolutely won't have any Ferrari logo added anywhere.
That Ferrari cavallino badging was Martin playing with adding some style points to the middle spar, which probably won't be part of the design anyway.

But I may go with something like this on some custom center caps, which I think would be perfect. IYKYK sort of thing.

If you want an example of how much F3RRARI protects their name, just google "site:914world.com 'Howard' '<insert Italian car company name here>' 'hose'



To make a long story short, one of our Late members, Howard Drainow, was present when an Enzo was totaled. He picked up a small hose from it that was laying on the ground. Howard had a wicked sense of humor, so he attempted to put the hose up for auction on Ebay. Very quickly he received a cease and desist letter from the house of Enzo telling him he could not use the F-Word in his auction or they would sue him for defamation.

The whole thing is documented on World. I can't find the thread where Howard posted the info about the cease and desist letter. But here is the link to the thread from before the letter: http://www.914world.com/bbs2/lofiversion/i...php?t46815.html

He ended up rewording the auction to not use the name of that Italian car company.

The funny part was that the auction was a joke to start with, and he actually planned on giving the hose to the winning bidder for nothing.

So be careful when referring to the overpriced FIAT company. They have lots of expensive lawyers.

[KELTY360]

@Kelty360 @technicalninja - It absolutely won't have any Ferrari logo added anywhere.
That Ferrari cavallino badging was Martin playing with adding some style points to the middle spar, which probably won't be part of the design anyway.

But I may go with something like this on some custom center caps, which I think would be perfect. IYKYK sort of thing.

If you want an example of how much F3RRARI protects their name, just google "site:914world.com 'Howard' '<insert Italian car company name here>' 'hose'



To make a long story short, one of our Late members, Howard Drainow, was present when an Enzo was totaled. He picked up a small hose from it that was laying on the ground. Howard had a wicked sense of humor, so he attempted to put the hose up for auction on Ebay. Very quickly he received a cease and desist letter from the house of Enzo telling him he could not use the F-Word in his auction or they would sue him for defamation.

The whole thing is documented on World. I can't find the thread where Howard posted the info about the cease and desist letter. But here is the link to the thread from before the letter: http://www.914world.com/bbs2/lofiversion/i...php?t46815.html

He ended up rewording the auction to not use the name of that Italian car company.

The funny part was that the auction was a joke to start with, and he actually planned on giving the hose to the winning bidder for nothing.

So be careful when referring to the overpriced FIAT company. They have lots of expensive lawyers.

One of the funniest episodes in the history of 914World!
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[rhodyguy]

The ‘P’ word in the logo would go over like a fart in church. The attorneys on retainer love that stuff.

[Chris914n6]

The ‘P’ word in the logo would go over like a fart in church. The attorneys on retainer love that stuff.

You can make anything you want for personal use. The issue is selling it for personal gain.

Or whatever this is...
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[tygaboy]

Martin and I spent the afternoon working on closing the original TB openings. I cut the plenum to the desired shape, Martin worked up the paper template and cut the aluminum blank then we took turns working it into shape. Martin's aluminum welding is far better than mine so I happily videoed while he worked his magic. Super happy with how it's coming along.
One tricky piece left to do then repeat on the other side.

[tygaboy]

The best part is how nice it's going to look in the car. Did I get lucky guestimating the radius I cut in the lid or what? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/w00t.gif)

[davep]

Nice work.

[bkrantz]

For a first rendering, that looks great. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer.gif)

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) But I'd ditch the prancing horse logo. It's a bit much and it detracts from that gorgeous plenum with the Ferrari script. After all, that's the real story.

Maybe you should design your own logo and put it front and center. A Red Barn theme would be perfect. You could even cut a barn shape instead of the circle to add some intrigue.

It could be fun to somehow combine Porsche and Ferrari horses.

[worn]

The ‘P’ word in the logo would go over like a fart in church. The attorneys on retainer love that stuff.

Do you folks mean that I cannot put a dinner plate sized Fiat or subsidiary logo on the side of the car? It seems like so few people know what the car is when crossing the country that I might as well change the price range. Oh well. Another brilliant plan gone.

[technicalninja]

Might be fun to try "Porrari" (never having the intentions to sell it) and see what that stirs up!

Might go viral...


I will have to say the crest that Chris came up with is perfect. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/first.gif)

The Maranello is IN THE MIDDLE of the Porsche outline...

[tygaboy]

I will have to say the crest that Chris came up with is perfect. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/first.gif)

The Maranello is IN THE MIDDLE of the Porsche outline...

@technicalninja - Exactly. And sharp eyes will note that's the cavallino, not the Porsche horse. It's the little things...

[technicalninja]

You do a bunch of stuff that way...

The engine lid release on the V8 car is another that I really liked.

Little tiny mods that appear "transparent" and MIGHT have been on the car from the get-go had Porsche been more astute!


I may be wrong, but I believe the Italian company got riled up over the Miami Vice Mc Burnie Daytona Spyder that was first used in the show. This appears to the start of automatic legal problems with the Company.

Story I heard/read had The Company (that cannot be named) tried to sue initially over it and they came to a resolution where The Company DONATED two brand new white Testa Rossas (late style, NOT real TRs in my book). One car got used for "glamor" shots and the other was used (as a personal vehicle) by one of the head honchos for Miami Vice.

The replicar Daytona HAD to be destroyed on the show!

I also heard/read that the action shots were done with a highly modified Pantera that had a replicar TR body and the camera car to get the shots was yet another Pantera all modified up to be a camera car.

So, action shots were still a replicar and the Company couldn't do shit about it...

Having experienced both late TRs and Panteras I'm counting the use of modified Panteras as a loss of two of the best 70s Italian cars.

IMO they should have trashed the TRs