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Engine Case Sealant, Need Your Input |
Puebloswatcop |
Sep 11 2022, 05:45 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,399 Joined: 27-December 14 From: Mineola, Texas Member No.: 18,258 Region Association: Southwest Region |
So, I have read several posts and watched several videos to do with engine rebuilds. I am wondering what people recommend for the engine case sealant. In Jake Raby's video, he used Aviation gasket sealer, which I have used on other applications with great success.
That being said, this is my first type IV build, so I am seeking input from those who have done their own builds. I would like to know what you used, why and pros and cons. Thanks for any input...... |
914Sixer |
Sep 11 2022, 06:22 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 9,005 Joined: 17-January 05 From: San Angelo Texas Member No.: 3,457 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Yes, good old fashion Permatex Aviation Gasket Sealer.
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Geezer914 |
Sep 12 2022, 03:56 AM
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Geezer914 Group: Members Posts: 1,747 Joined: 18-March 09 From: Salem, NJ Member No.: 10,179 Region Association: North East States |
Curel T-2 for the case and cylinder bases. Loctite 518 for the oil pump. My case is tight as a frogs ass and that's water proof.
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ClayPerrine |
Sep 12 2022, 05:44 AM
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DennisV |
Sep 12 2022, 06:18 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 545 Joined: 8-August 20 From: Santa Rosa, CA Member No.: 24,575 Region Association: Northern California |
I am wondering what people recommend for the engine case sealant. In Jake Raby's video, he used Aviation gasket sealer, which I have used on other applications with great success. Like 914Sixer, I used Permatex gasket sealer when I rebuilt our Super 90 engine. It seems to have worked fine, but it has only run on an engine stand. Conventional wisdom seems to be leaning to Loctite 574. There is a really great read on Porsche Crankcase Sealant over at Klassik ATS. |
930cabman |
Sep 12 2022, 04:42 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,632 Joined: 12-November 20 From: Buffalo Member No.: 24,877 Region Association: North East States |
Yes, good old fashion Permatex Aviation Gasket Sealer. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) quick effective simple. no need to complicate things |
iankarr |
Sep 12 2022, 10:00 PM
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The wrencher formerly known as Cuddy_K Group: Members Posts: 2,519 Joined: 22-May 15 From: Heber City, UT Member No.: 18,749 Region Association: Intermountain Region |
I used curil K2 on the case and have no leaks. Check out Jake’s video on the sealants he uses on the type 4 Facebook group
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bbrock |
Sep 13 2022, 08:14 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,269 Joined: 17-February 17 From: Montana Member No.: 20,845 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
I used Loctite 574 (or whichever is the orange stuff) on mine when I rebuilt the case in the late 80s. Not knowing what I was doing, I figured whatever Porsche was using would be a good choice. I remember it being spendy, but easy to apply. The engine sat sealed but unfinished for 30 years before first start and now has 6K miles with no leaks.
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Olympic 914 |
Sep 13 2022, 09:31 AM
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Group: Members Posts: 1,706 Joined: 7-July 11 From: Pittsburgh PA Member No.: 13,287 Region Association: North East States |
I used Yamabond for the cases, (get at your local Yamaha dealer) Same as Hondabond.
But a local Indy, that was a Porsche tech recommended the Loctite 574 My case does not leak with the Yamabond |
bbrock |
Sep 13 2022, 09:39 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,269 Joined: 17-February 17 From: Montana Member No.: 20,845 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Looking at the article that @DennisV linked, it seems the test isn't whether they seal the case so it doesn't leak (seems they all do that pretty well), but whether the residue can contaminate the engine and possibly clog an oil galley. Looks like the Loctite and Aviation Sealant are the winners there.
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Puebloswatcop |
Sep 14 2022, 03:55 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,399 Joined: 27-December 14 From: Mineola, Texas Member No.: 18,258 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Thanks everyone for your input. Ireally appreciate it. Looks like a toss up between the 574 and Permatex Aviation. I have used the Permatex on other items and found it very user friendly and leak proof. So I guess it depends on availability of the 574.
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gereed75 |
Sep 14 2022, 06:30 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,297 Joined: 19-March 13 From: Pittsburgh PA Member No.: 15,674 Region Association: North East States |
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gereed75 |
Sep 14 2022, 06:30 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,297 Joined: 19-March 13 From: Pittsburgh PA Member No.: 15,674 Region Association: North East States |
There is a comprehensive thread over on Pelican that essentially ends with a definitive sealant kit assembled and sold by Henry Schmit proprietor ot Supertech. It is intended for 911 sixes but should work just fine. Henry knows his stuff
The thread is many pages long. Lots and lots of discussion. I used the kit to seal my six 5 years ago. No leaks |
pek771 |
Sep 15 2022, 03:54 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 275 Joined: 23-November 05 From: Conover, NC Member No.: 5,175 Region Association: None |
Wurth. Orange stuff, I can't remember its name. Choice #2 is Gasgacinch.
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rgalla9146 |
Sep 15 2022, 07:44 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,641 Joined: 23-November 05 From: Paramus NJ Member No.: 5,176 Region Association: None |
Wurth. Orange stuff, I can't remember its name. Choice #2 is Gasgacinch. I used 574 many times with great results. Permatex Aviation is the old standby. 'Gasgacinch' which looked and smelled like contact cement was once the 'go to' My recent 3.2 short stroke has run on a stand but has not been put to work yet. Dry as a bone so far....like Dennis I'll know more in early October. Fingers crossed. |
Justinp71 |
Sep 15 2022, 10:22 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,597 Joined: 11-October 04 From: Sacramento, CA Member No.: 2,922 Region Association: None |
There is a comprehensive thread over on Pelican that essentially ends with a definitive sealant kit assembled and sold by Henry Schmit proprietor ot Supertech. It is intended for 911 sixes but should work just fine. Henry knows his stuff The thread is many pages long. Lots and lots of discussion. I used the kit to seal my six 5 years ago. No leaks I was thinking the same thing, I think its made by threebond, 1184? That's what is in my toolbox from when I did my six about 9 years ago. The case has given me no issues. |
bbrock |
Sep 15 2022, 10:43 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,269 Joined: 17-February 17 From: Montana Member No.: 20,845 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Here's the kit. A variety of sealants for different uses. Looks like 574 for the case.
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rgalla9146 |
Sep 16 2022, 12:29 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,641 Joined: 23-November 05 From: Paramus NJ Member No.: 5,176 Region Association: None |
What ?.......no one is using the FlexSeal family of fine home sealants ? Now available at Walmart and Target. Phil Smart (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
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