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> 914 LE on e bay, only 20,000 original miles!!!
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post Sep 28 2022, 08:10 AM
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post Sep 28 2022, 08:23 AM
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post Sep 28 2022, 08:33 AM
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"The clutch and 5 speed transmission shifts smoothly. There is a lock out on gears 4/5 (it was fine 6 years ago when tires were fitted)."

"Riding on Fuchs but have OEM Mahle (4-bolt) cast aluminum wheels included in the sale "
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post Sep 28 2022, 08:45 AM
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post Sep 28 2022, 08:56 AM
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It's been a HARD 20k miles (IMG:style_emoticons/default/screwy.gif)
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post Sep 28 2022, 09:44 AM
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I always wonder why people think showing obscure pics like the turn signal arm or the ashtray is important, when they neglect to show more than 1 pic of the outside of the car, and no pics of the underside or usual rust areas.
If it fails to sell at a decent price, it's the presentation that is to blame.
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post Sep 28 2022, 10:54 AM
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Someone should go put eyes on this car before forming too many armchair opinions. It could actually be the low mileage advertised. Looks like it could clean up nicely. Really bad photo presentation from the seller, doubt he knows these cars. Look at how clean the dashknob inserts are.

I have correspondence from the owner in 2011 that he had just inherited the car which had been in storage for 25 years and he noted very minor rust conditions at the time. Car was in HI at the time, must have come across the pond since then.

Also have correspondence from PCNA confirming that the car is an LE, despite the Targa vinyl, but I have no record of a COA.

Maybe an original LE spoiler? And a vintage photo from when it was in the islands.


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post Sep 28 2022, 10:59 AM
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I have a low mileage black 74. 2.0
Sure, the LE is not perfectly preserved, but I can really appreciate most of those detail shots. There seems to be very little wear.
I would rather have a car like this, than one that was restored.
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post Sep 28 2022, 11:11 AM
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Two things are certain, it needs a real cleaning and to be rephotographed (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool_shades.gif)
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post Sep 28 2022, 12:00 PM
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QUOTE(JeffBowlsby @ Sep 28 2022, 10:54 AM) *

Someone should go put eyes on this car before forming too many armchair opinions. It could actually be the low mileage advertised. Looks like it could clean up nicely. Really bad photo presentation from the seller, doubt he knows these cars. Look at how clean the dashknob inserts are.


I would agree except how does one explain that engine? FI stripped and replaced by Webers, rust everywhere. Red overspray that looks suspiciously like the apparent rattle can treatment the Mahles received. All this in the first 20K miles (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)

I'll repeat, if it is 20K original miles, those were some hard miles. I think it is a nice car and might very well have high value, I'm just skeptical of the low miles. Especially when someone not familiar with these cars might not notice that they roll over at 100k.
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post Sep 28 2022, 12:28 PM
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How many of the bumblebees had vinyl/ trim on the sail panels? Kind of a weird thing to add to an authentic bumblebee
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post Sep 28 2022, 12:40 PM
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Especially when someone not familiar with these cars might not notice that they roll over at 100k.


Personally, I’m tired of seeing 5 digit ODOs represented as original miles “shown”

At what point does it become fair game to buy such an low miles car and then turn around and sue for misrepresentation and/or title fraud if signed off at 20k original miles? Maybe a way to get the car and a 50% refund (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif)

Obviously I’m being sarcastic but at some point doesn’t the seller bear some liability? I know, I know, buyer beware. It just seems like there is always someone trying to scam via 5 digit odo.
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post Sep 28 2022, 01:24 PM
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If there was any available space in the garage, the car was closer, and I had $, it'd be worth a look before writing it off as a joke. It could be a "diamond in the rough" (or a turd).

It could be someone with limited experience or knowledge about 914s. For sure it's not wearing Fuchs as described in the listing (at least in the photos shown), not even 2 liter Fuchs. That and other signs leads me to think this might just be an inexperienced owner/seller.
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post Sep 28 2022, 01:24 PM
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The carbs are easy to explain. Car sits for years does not start. Someone unfamiliar with the FI bolts on carbs as a quick fix. Reversible.

No real LEs had targa vinyl originally, but some owners added it later.

What red overspray? i dont see any. Just the rattle can on the wheels
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post Sep 28 2022, 01:56 PM
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It's been a HARD 20k miles (IMG:style_emoticons/default/screwy.gif)


It's also been close to a half century
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post Sep 28 2022, 02:55 PM
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QUOTE(bbrock @ Sep 28 2022, 08:56 AM) *

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It's been a HARD 20k miles (IMG:style_emoticons/default/screwy.gif)


It's also been close to a half century

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) why would someone try to present a car for the market as dirty as this one is ??,IMO tends to make people suspect of car and shows the seller gives a rats ass about how it looks .
I have sold SO many cars that looked better than when I owned them ,never has one buyer commented on presentation and for that reason I have always achieved close to my asking price or more than reserve with an auction.
Just a lazy seller really.
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post Sep 28 2022, 03:21 PM
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What red overspray? i dont see any. Just the rattle can on the wheels


What's the red stuff here?
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and the engine looks awfully rough for a car stored in a carport since 1987.

Again, I do not think this car is a joke and and not accusing the seller of anything shady. Just someone who isn't experienced with 914s which makes me skeptical about the mileage is all. Too many things that have me scratching my head wondering why someone would do these things to a 20K mile car in great condition. I would be happy to be wrong. Regardless, I'd for sure be taking a closer look if I were in the market. There is real potential there.
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post Sep 28 2022, 03:36 PM
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I saw that...not trying to justify the photo if it is indeed red paint, but its possible it could just be the lighting maybe a red tarp or light reflecting off somethoing red nearby. The red color tint is not on the overall engine photo.



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post Sep 28 2022, 03:45 PM
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I saw that...not trying to justify the photo if it is indeed red paint, but its possible it could just be the lighting maybe a red tarp or light reflecting off somethoing red nearby. The red color tint is not on the overall engine photo.


I wondered about that too. Could be. The timing cover looks the most paint like but agree it isn't noticeable in the wider shot.
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post Sep 28 2022, 04:50 PM
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HI is HARD on cars, the fact that the battery tray isn't rusted out is amazing.

That red stuff almost looks like it could be the anti-corrosion crap sprayed on battery terminals... (i still have some on my 930 from a careless directional squirt after blowing up my battery with a bad voltage regulator)

I'm with Blowsby, this one could turn out to be a nice driver/survivor once polished out... although the yellow looks suspiciously rattlecan color - could just be the camera.
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