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| LouCity914 |
 Oct 27 2022, 07:29 AM
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Newbie  Group: Members Posts: 23 Joined: 27-October 22 From: Louisville, KY Member No.: 26,950 Region Association: None  |
Hello 914 enthusiast - thanks for allowing me into the group. I suspect I will be here often.
I just recently made a package deal on a 1974 914 and a 1973 914. A complete 2.0 engine and a partial 1.8. No transmissions. The 1973 needs a long replacement and work in the hell hole, but overall is in pretty sounds , mostly rust free condition. Not perfect, but much better than most rollers I've priced out. I made a deal for everything including a 1974 with a Chalan wide body kit and 911 hubs and some decent Fuch replicas. The 73 we'll come back to in a later post I'm sure. However, the 74 wide body has my attention at the moment. She is a rust queen. And before anyone starts to pile on - I come from the MG WORLD! So, rust is my middle name and have the skills and equipment, including a rotisserie, to do my own repairs. I took a gamble as the price was right and it looks like I hit a home run on the 73 as far as rust goes (some long work passenger side, single patch in the trunk and the floors are good). The 74 wide body was a bit more of a gamble - I could clearly see the sag, the obvious rocker and floor stuff. But, what has intrigued me is the fact that most of the original body had been cut away to place the Chalan kit on. Let me further say, that I realize this cars best hope is a cool driver - perhaps after I replace the inner rockers and do the fiberglass work (and make it safe complete with documentation) I will market to someone who wants to do a motor swap. The guy waiting in line bebind me wanted to put a Subaru engine in it. So, my questions are was it common to cut the original fenders off when adding a kit like this? Also, was it a matter of weight? Did they want a lighter car? Also - I clearly think it benefits me from a repair perspective, because there was less sheet model to rust. And any patches required behind the fiberglass need not be dressed up nicely - just strong. Can't wait for feedback and thanks for the add! |
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| nivekdodge |
Oct 27 2022, 07:41 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 269 Joined: 28-August 21 From: Pittsburgh Pa Member No.: 25,860 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region 
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| Cairo94507 |
Oct 27 2022, 07:44 AM
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Michael Group: Members Posts: 10,057 Joined: 1-November 08 From: Auburn, CA Member No.: 9,712 Region Association: Northern California
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(IMG:style_emoticons/default/welcome.png) Welcome to the World. Way to dive into the deep end of the pool too. Let's see some pictures. After working on MG's, this should be a cake-walk for you. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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| LouCity914 |
Oct 27 2022, 08:49 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 23 Joined: 27-October 22 From: Louisville, KY Member No.: 26,950 Region Association: None |
Here is the 74 wide body:
https://share.icloud.com/photos/0115D2qKIUvhXdGSlj54uxcoA https://share.icloud.com/photos/046FD-wwL5rOSyzbUKZFzdzuQ https://share.icloud.com/photos/04eSOXZfn-2dY4dMOPt-Vnn2Q https://share.icloud.com/photos/0eaMQJPB0R3TuzZTHlvXVsM4Q https://share.icloud.com/photos/0eaJLJfeDnbMI3qNls5ifZUNQ |
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| LouCity914 |
Oct 27 2022, 08:56 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 23 Joined: 27-October 22 From: Louisville, KY Member No.: 26,950 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(Cairo94507 @ Oct 27 2022, 07:44 AM)  (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welcome.png) Welcome to the World. Way to dive into the deep end of the pool too. Let's see some pictures. After working on MG's, this should be a cake-walk for you. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) No inner wings or inner membrane sill + castle rail + rocker + floor pans... MGB's are pretty tedious from the inside out. I've been pleasantly surprised at the simplicity of the 914 unibody. The longs seem to be 90% of the battle (floor pans of course adding to the integrity). But, simple by roadster comparison. I will probably keep one of the two for a bit when fished. I've loved these cars since I was a young boy. Now I'm an old boy with some skills and all my cars outpace my 401k lol! |
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| LouCity914 |
Oct 27 2022, 09:05 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 23 Joined: 27-October 22 From: Louisville, KY Member No.: 26,950 Region Association: None |
The 73 Roller:
https://share.icloud.com/photos/0813o33yquR2yQKp9-St6TTAw https://share.icloud.com/photos/0af5DIceoEPbVTVstCJXDlnpQ https://share.icloud.com/photos/04bgCeNOxkfqlsPe38VIIjGug https://share.icloud.com/photos/0b6biZCPStbARaNcoXLL7yRgw Partial 1.8 Heads, case, pistons, connecting rods https://share.icloud.com/photos/0686Mg5RfPj6h67p4mXSVfIOQ https://share.icloud.com/photos/0c5M1XlYu4VOsexldGwfEK3hA Complete 2.0 Status unknown: https://share.icloud.com/photos/0c8gXuHlkPIU2QU4vBjBVCV1w No Tranny's |
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| dstudeba |
Oct 27 2022, 09:08 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 118 Joined: 3-December 21 From: San Diego Member No.: 26,128 Region Association: Southern California
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Just a help for others.
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| dstudeba |
Oct 27 2022, 09:11 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 118 Joined: 3-December 21 From: San Diego Member No.: 26,128 Region Association: Southern California
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| dstudeba |
Oct 27 2022, 09:15 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 118 Joined: 3-December 21 From: San Diego Member No.: 26,128 Region Association: Southern California
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| dstudeba |
Oct 27 2022, 09:15 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 118 Joined: 3-December 21 From: San Diego Member No.: 26,128 Region Association: Southern California
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| LouCity914 |
Oct 27 2022, 09:18 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 23 Joined: 27-October 22 From: Louisville, KY Member No.: 26,950 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(dstudeba @ Oct 27 2022, 09:15 AM) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Thanks for the assistance - still trying to figure out adding photos - seems to only allow URL. |
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| dstudeba |
Oct 27 2022, 09:19 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 118 Joined: 3-December 21 From: San Diego Member No.: 26,128 Region Association: Southern California
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Will be fun to watch! What is the original paint code on the 73?
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| LouCity914 |
Oct 27 2022, 09:22 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 23 Joined: 27-October 22 From: Louisville, KY Member No.: 26,950 Region Association: None |
I'll need to do my homework - just got her in the bay as sun was setting now I have this silly job thing, and a freaking dinner party tonight! Why can't I just be left alone with my cars? lol
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| Mikey914 |
Oct 27 2022, 10:10 AM
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The rubber man Group: Members Posts: 12,729 Joined: 27-December 04 From: Hillsboro, OR Member No.: 3,348 Region Association: None
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You really are ambitious! Yes you can do it, just takes time and money (+skills). Looking forward to seeing your progress. Good thing you got the 914 starter pack (car plus spare) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) |
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| kerensky |
Oct 27 2022, 10:43 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 531 Joined: 1-February 06 From: Norman, OK Member No.: 5,508 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Welcome to the madness, new friend! It's nice to see someone jump into this with lots of experience and their eyes wide open. Interested to see how they turn out. I've always thought the Chalon kit was a good stab at what the 914 might have looked like if it'd stayed in production alongside the 924/944 through the 80s.
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| nathanxnathan |
Oct 27 2022, 10:57 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 294 Joined: 16-February 18 From: Laguna Beach, CA Member No.: 21,899 Region Association: Southern California |
QUOTE(LouCity914 @ Oct 27 2022, 08:05 AM) The 73 Roller: https://share.icloud.com/photos/0813o33yquR2yQKp9-St6TTAw https://share.icloud.com/photos/0af5DIceoEPbVTVstCJXDlnpQ https://share.icloud.com/photos/04bgCeNOxkfqlsPe38VIIjGug https://share.icloud.com/photos/0b6biZCPStbARaNcoXLL7yRgw Partial 1.8 Heads, case, pistons, connecting rods https://share.icloud.com/photos/0686Mg5RfPj6h67p4mXSVfIOQ https://share.icloud.com/photos/0c5M1XlYu4VOsexldGwfEK3hA Complete 2.0 Status unknown: https://share.icloud.com/photos/0c8gXuHlkPIU2QU4vBjBVCV1w No Tranny's With the big bumpers, it looks like it's a 75 or 76. I'd check the vin. It seems unlikely that anyone would put those bumpers on an early car with the complication of the shocks/different front cross panel etc, plus their not being very desirable. |
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| nathanxnathan |
Oct 27 2022, 10:58 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 294 Joined: 16-February 18 From: Laguna Beach, CA Member No.: 21,899 Region Association: Southern California |
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| beech4rd |
Oct 27 2022, 11:01 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 345 Joined: 10-January 07 From: Highwoods, Saugerties, NY Member No.: 7,445 Region Association: North East States
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Welcome to the World, from a former, and now fully recovered, MGB owner. I suspect that your 1973 roller is actually a 1975 model year car- the bumpers give it away. The third number in the VIN will be 5 if it's a '75, 3 if it's a '73.
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| LouCity914 |
Oct 27 2022, 11:06 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 23 Joined: 27-October 22 From: Louisville, KY Member No.: 26,950 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(kerensky @ Oct 27 2022, 10:43 AM) Welcome to the madness, new friend! It's nice to see someone jump into this with lots of experience and their eyes wide open. Interested to see how they turn out. I've always thought the Chalon kit was a good stab at what the 914 might have looked like if it'd stayed in production alongside the 924/944 through the 80s. Thanks for the encouragement. We'll see what direction I go. I'd like to get the Chalan roller safe and cleaned up then move it. I'd prefer to put my money in the 73 - though those fenders are covered with surface rust - it's pretty strait... work to be done for sure - but the doors line up and the hell hole is minimal. Cheers! |
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| LouCity914 |
Oct 27 2022, 11:09 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 23 Joined: 27-October 22 From: Louisville, KY Member No.: 26,950 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(beech4rd @ Oct 27 2022, 11:01 AM) Welcome to the World, from a former, and now fully recovered, MGB owner. I suspect that your 1973 roller is actually a 1975 model year car- the bumpers give it away. The third number in the VIN will be 5 if it's a '75, 3 if it's a '73. Chris Thanks for the clarification - I can spot a pull handle MGB MK1 from a mile away... still learning the 14 but love the simplicity of the unibody compared to the B's for sure. Though I suspect Porsche never match the simplicity of an 1800! Just two different experiences! Cheers, Todd |
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