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> What is this car worth?, Need help on a rough estimate
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post Aug 8 2005, 10:08 AM
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There is more rust than meets the eye. What I have seen is not unrepairable, but you need to be able to fix it yourself make this purchace possible. You start paying someone to fix that and you could buy a new car.

As to "how much?"...it's a roller, no matter what the owner claims was done to it. $1000.00

If he wants more, tell him to get it running. (replace old gas, replace deteriorated fuel lines/ vacume lines, ect). That will bring the value up and you will have a way to see how strong the engine is.
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post Aug 8 2005, 10:12 AM
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QUOTE (redshift @ Aug 8 2005, 08:03 AM)
I am scared of it.

The suspension ear repair scares me. I don't like the method of other repairs, too quick and dirty.. tells some tales. The owner's attitude, not fixing a 'clutch cable problem' and letting that all happen.. hmm.

Yikes.


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Owner comes across as a non-914 expert. Someone who is not into DIY, enjoyed driving the car, but farmed out all of the maintenance to local shops. The car was also the daily driver at the time it was parked. I suspect it was becomming a maintenance headache and another daily driver took it's place and it just sat as we all know they tend to do when people intend to fix it one day, but never get around to doing it.
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post Aug 8 2005, 10:13 AM
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What's it worth? that's EZ....max 1,000 as it does not run if THAT....

Question is....what does HE think it's worth?????
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post Aug 8 2005, 10:39 AM
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Ok, enough people are playing along and guessing and since everyone is so far in the $1000 ballpark...

Owner is looking for $3500 which I agree is too much considering it doesn't even start. I think the problem is that it was running when it was parked. It doesn't matter that this was 16 years ago. I told the owner that if they were to spend some money to get it running, it would greatly improve the chances of selling it. I don’t think that is going to happen.

I am not so proud that I will not embarrass myself and say that maybe I would have considered going as much as $2000 tops. I guess I was wrong on that one. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wacko.gif)

I will say that while I don’t know how to weld or use a plasma cutter, I am going to learn. So becoming a “welding manic” is not a problem for me. Actually I am sort of looking forward to it in a sick way. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif) But I just don’t want to buy a car at the wrong price. I may offer the owner $1000 for the car and see what happens.

Thanks for any comments and feel free to keep them coming as I am going to watch this thread.
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post Aug 8 2005, 10:49 AM
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Be prepared to walk away if he refuses your offer. It's worth $1000 TOPS.
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post Aug 8 2005, 10:52 AM
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leave him your phone number......that way you might get a call when his vision clears up (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wink.gif)
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post Aug 8 2005, 11:01 AM
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QUOTE (Richard Casto @ Aug 8 2005, 12:39 PM)

Thanks for any comments and feel free to keep them coming as I am going to watch this thread.

NEW Club Rule: DO AS WE SAY, NOT AS WE DO.

You could buy a sorted out car for about 2k more than he's wanting, and have it shipped for another around $1,500... save thousands, be happy now, and not end up with an overtly expensive restoration, that is a repaired piece of crap.

What if it was 6 years til you got it on the road? (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/blink.gif)

If he will take $400 for it, it might be good to scavenge parts from. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smile.gif)


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post Aug 8 2005, 11:06 AM
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I'll go along with the $1000 max cash value, but it could easily take a year of your spare time to get it on the road, and a tremendous amount of money and work. The crack is the result of driving a rusty car hard.... not good. It will never be a great car....... too late.

If you have the means, you will be wayyyy ahead to spend $3000 on a decent driver that has few or none of these issues, and you can focus your efforts on more cosmetic and performance items. Much more fun and satisfying that cutting half the car apart to fix the rust, and less expensive.
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post Aug 8 2005, 11:14 AM
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QUOTE (seanery @ Aug 8 2005, 09:49 AM)
Be prepared to walk away if he refuses your offer. It's worth $1000 TOPS.

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post Aug 8 2005, 11:20 AM
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For roughly $3-4K, you can get a running, basically rust-free (relatively speaking) decent car on the West Coast that few would be embarrassed to drive, and transport to the East Coast is roughly $1500. If you don't mind a project (and if you're looking at that car, you must not), you could get a non-rusty roller here for $1000 or less. So, use that as your guide. Plenty of people out here can look over the car for you. I'd be happy to examine any car in the Bay Area, and I'm sure there are at least a half-dozen other people on this board who would do the same.

Here's where to look:
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post Aug 8 2005, 11:22 AM
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Where is this car located? I know of a couple over here in Wake Forest that are a bit better than that...and a lot cheaper. I'd have to agree with the $1000 mark.

Damn dude, I didn't know you were this eager to get going!!!

I know you had told me you were looking for a long-term project car, but from your pics, this may not be the one. Looks like lots of cobbled together repairs, not sure what may be lurking beneath 'em. I am sure there are some much more solid examples to be found around here. Robert Plank's car is real solid, and he picked it up for only slightly more than you were considering on this one.

Are you going to the NCAC this weekend? I'll hook up with you there, maybe get a better idea of what you are looking for. The more eyes you have working for you, the better.
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post Aug 8 2005, 11:27 AM
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Oh...and I'll have a bunch of -4 parts available this winter too....the 2.4 is on a pallet in the garage patiently waiting for our last points AX in Laurinburg Oct. 9.......
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post Aug 8 2005, 12:12 PM
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QUOTE (jdogg @ Aug 8 2005, 09:22 AM)
I know of a couple over here in Wake Forest that are a bit better than that...and a lot cheaper.

Hook me up man! Stop me before I do something stupid! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/cool.gif) Anything that is in easy driving distance, I am going to try to look at.

QUOTE (jdogg @ Aug 8 2005, 09:22 AM)
Damn dude, I didn't know you were this eager to get going!!!

Sort of a recent development. Tina and I decided it was time to start shopping, so I am seriously looking. Also looking for a Miata for her. Next year may be my last in STS if I am lucky!

QUOTE (jdogg @ Aug 8 2005, 09:22 AM)
Are you going to the NCAC this weekend? I'll hook up with you there, maybe get a better idea of what you are looking for. The more eyes you have working for you, the better.

I am not going to be at NCAC this weekend, but will be at the 8/21 THSCC event the weekend after. If you are there, we can talk. Or PM me here or on the THSCC forum!
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post Aug 8 2005, 12:22 PM
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you will have $5k into that kar before you know it. at that point it may be drivable. parts car to me. keep looking.

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post Aug 8 2005, 12:33 PM
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QUOTE (redshift @ Aug 8 2005, 08:53 AM)
There is alot of stuff hiding in that thing. What you see appears, by experience, to be likely.. 30% of the actual damage.

(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/agree.gif) the patch on the *underside* of the long below the hell hole means the battery acid had eaten it's way through the top AND the bottom of the long.
that is usually not a very good indicator ...

also, the floorborad to long rust either comes from standing water inside the car or the previous hell hole rott has made it's way forward inside the long.

either way, if you buy that car, i'd strongly recommend cutting that whole long open to get a very good look of the inside.

simply patching over the holes will not stop the rust, just buy you some more time ...

if you really like the car otherwise, i'd say $1000 MAX ...
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post Aug 8 2005, 01:58 PM
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Run Dude.... he's at $3,500 and your around $1,000 ( per all of us genius').

That looks exactly like my car. I guarantee that there is 60% more rust damage than what you can see. All that and it doesn't run (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/ohmy.gif)

Yes I bought mine in that condition... two differences my at least started (bad fuel pump relay fixed for $5.00) and I only paid $300.00 for it.

As of today I still have less than $1,000 bucks into it, not done by any stretch of the imagination mind you but you'll have to see (teaser for a soon coming progress thread).

Run away (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/dry.gif)
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post Aug 8 2005, 02:03 PM
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QUOTE (Richard Casto @ Aug 8 2005, 09:39 AM)
Owner is looking for $3500

i paid $3500 for my car.
running 1.8L with flares and 7" wheels, good tires. nice body kit. minor rust.

of course then i dumped $15k+ into it ...

but, point is, it was running and the body was in good shape ...
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post Aug 8 2005, 02:11 PM
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$3500 should get you a solid body, whatever shape the rest of the parts are in.
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post Aug 8 2005, 02:19 PM
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QUOTE (Richard Casto @ Aug 8 2005, 02:12 PM)

Sort of a recent development. Tina and I decided it was time to start shopping, so I am seriously looking. Also looking for a Miata for her. Next year may be my last in STS if I am lucky!


Brilliance. Sheer Brilliance!!! Get your wife involved and receive unconditional blessings on purchasing new play toys!!! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/clap.gif)

I'll see you in Greenville for sure, hopefully Tarheel can bring back some wood from the NCAC this weekend.

I just drove by one of the WF cars I talked about, it was gone. Evidently it is sold. The other WF car is fairly solid, and is a runner that can be had for around 1K with lots of spares. It is going to require a fair bit of (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/welder.gif) to get it right, but not as much as the one you posted here. We'll talk more at Greenville.
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Another gold plated rusty piece of crap in the barn story....run don't walk AWAY.....
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