Contracted 914 fever— is this the car to cure it?, What do you think of this ‘73 914 2.0 on Bat— pass or play? |
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Contracted 914 fever— is this the car to cure it?, What do you think of this ‘73 914 2.0 on Bat— pass or play? |
trylon |
Oct 5 2023, 11:04 AM
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trylon |
Oct 6 2023, 09:27 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 208 Joined: 9-August 23 From: Connecticut Member No.: 27,514 Region Association: North East States |
To flesh out history a bit more, a TC (associated with the United State Air Force Academy) bought the car in May ‘73 from Alpine Porsche-Audi in Colorado Springs.
The vehicle’s maintenance record book is stamped for every recommended service through 100,000! That milestone was reached in Nov. ‘82. The dealership was new in ‘71. I want one of those license plate surrounds! |
930cabman |
Oct 6 2023, 01:38 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,680 Joined: 12-November 20 From: Buffalo Member No.: 24,877 Region Association: North East States |
Might be asking for a bit much, but you never know
Search Ebay and the flea markets I'm lucky to have a couple from Kelly's Porsche from the 1960's |
trylon |
Oct 7 2023, 12:19 PM
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emerygt350 |
Oct 7 2023, 03:22 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,482 Joined: 20-July 21 From: Upstate, NY Member No.: 25,740 Region Association: North East States |
As always, nothing terrible but a ton of strangeness.
1) aar is hooked to the port for what I believe is the fuel tank vapor/carbon vent. That hose appears to be gone. 2) pcv should go from the flame blocking valve to that port on the air cleaner over by the relays (driver side). It is now hooked up where the aar is supposed to go. 3) the retard is confusing. It looks like a hose may wrap all the way around the engine. Can't tell where it goes in your picture. I think it is right though if you zoom in real close. 4) decel valve is completely gone. Many people don't have them. But it may be stressing your mps and cause early failure. The port on the plenum for it looks plugged. The port on the air cleaner is open. 5)pcv from oil filler to plenum looks good. However, the elbow is not stock. That should have two ports on it. The other port heads to the decel. 6) vent to the tin by the driver side is open/hose is missing. 7) heater ducting is gone. 8)rain tray collectors are missing. Other than that it looks fine! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) |
emerygt350 |
Oct 7 2023, 03:36 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,482 Joined: 20-July 21 From: Upstate, NY Member No.: 25,740 Region Association: North East States |
And all of that is cheap and easy to make right. 914rubber is your friend. Except maybe the fuel tank venting hoses. Those make a long trip and I am not familiar with that voyage.
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trylon |
Oct 8 2023, 09:19 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 208 Joined: 9-August 23 From: Connecticut Member No.: 27,514 Region Association: North East States |
Wow, thanks for that close inspection! Interesting that it can start and run as well as it does with so many discrepancies from stock. Also great to hear it is not too difficult to make whole again.
Will begin by deepening my understanding of the description you sent me and creating a list of items for purchase. Will probably not immediately undertake the task of putting it right while the fall driving season is in full swing. Although it all sounds fairly benign, I do not know enough about this car to be sure I won’t screw something up and miss out! Are these valid? Ha, I see there is a 90 degree hose on AAR right where there is a kink in mine! |
emerygt350 |
Oct 8 2023, 12:00 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,482 Joined: 20-July 21 From: Upstate, NY Member No.: 25,740 Region Association: North East States |
Yeah, nothing there will give you real problems, however, you should cap all of the open ports in the air filter box. You are bypassing the filter with each of those and your active pcv is pulling that dirty air straight into your block and out through your heads. Your one dusty gravel road away from some real engine damage.
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trylon |
Oct 8 2023, 05:30 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 208 Joined: 9-August 23 From: Connecticut Member No.: 27,514 Region Association: North East States |
Yeah, nothing there will give you real problems, however, you should cap all of the open ports in the air filter box. You are bypassing the filter with each of those and your active pcv is pulling that dirty air straight into your block and out through your heads. Your one dusty gravel road away from some real engine damage. Yikes! Will do! |
wonkipop |
Oct 9 2023, 04:18 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,664 Joined: 6-May 20 From: north antarctica Member No.: 24,231 Region Association: NineFourteenerVille |
I've been offered a 1.8 engine along with the full exhaust system and all the fuel injection components from a 1974 914 that is about to have a -6 conversion. The car has been maintained at a locally well known independent Porsche shop, and the owner of the shop is a friend so I know what I'm being told is reliable. At the moment there are some unknowns -- compression and leak down numbers. However the engine runs well, doesn't smoke, has been properly maintained under the current owner, and just had a $300 rebuilt AFM installed, so there is at least that.... I don't NEED another engine for my 1975 1.8, but I do have the garage room to store another engine so maybe having another engine and all the components as a spare is worth it (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) I might get a bit more power out of my current engine if I swap out the exhaust components, or so I've been told. Given the above (granted, some key information is missing), any thoughts on what the value of this package is? I curious to hear what the hive mind thinks this would be worth. i'd add to emeryGT350 's observations. there are a few plugs missing off the tin ware. the alternator adjustment slot seal is missing. means its leaking cooling air out there. also you should plug the circular ports in the tin that take the blower motor hoses down to the heat exchanger heating circuit. some lids or some such thing that fit over them would suffice. basically those open holes mean you can suck heated exhausted cooling air from under the car back into the engine bay. the type 4 engine cooling relies on total separation from the heated air under the car. particularly while you are sitting at idle stuck in a traffic jam and not moving. one of those holes is sealed on one side but is not on the other. mimic the seal on that one that is there. alternatively if you have proper heat exchangers on the car and the heater works hook up the blower fan with a tube/hose to the open hole on left hand side. looks like previous owner has removed that heater blower hose for some reason. |
emerygt350 |
Oct 9 2023, 06:13 AM
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And yes, that hose diagram is quality.
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Porschef |
Oct 9 2023, 12:38 PM
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How you doin' Group: Members Posts: 2,177 Joined: 7-September 10 From: LawnGuyland Member No.: 12,152 Region Association: North East States |
Check to see if your fuse panel cover is missing under the dash. They seem to go missing often...
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trylon |
Oct 10 2023, 04:08 PM
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Thanks for all the expert information!
“Louis, I think this is the beginning of a beautiful friendship.” |
trylon |
Oct 10 2023, 04:10 PM
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trylon |
Oct 10 2023, 04:12 PM
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eric9144 |
Oct 10 2023, 04:21 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,744 Joined: 30-March 11 From: San Diego, CA Member No.: 12,876 Region Association: Southern California |
@trylon https://www.fuchsrestoration.com/ or https://www.facebook.com/p/Weidmans-Wheels-100071762617343/ or take a shot at it yourself (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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emerygt350 |
Oct 10 2023, 04:38 PM
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Porschef |
Oct 10 2023, 06:18 PM
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How you doin' Group: Members Posts: 2,177 Joined: 7-September 10 From: LawnGuyland Member No.: 12,152 Region Association: North East States |
The more I see painted sail panels, the more I like them (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
Great colors |
era vulgaris |
Oct 11 2023, 05:54 AM
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J is for Genius Group: Members Posts: 982 Joined: 10-November 13 From: Raleigh, NC Member No.: 16,629 Region Association: South East States |
The 914's made to hang out with the Beetle, while the 911's all hang out together on the other side of the lawn like they're the cool kids. Nothing ever changes (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Just kidding man, looks like fun. |
930cabman |
Oct 11 2023, 06:12 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,680 Joined: 12-November 20 From: Buffalo Member No.: 24,877 Region Association: North East States |
The 914's made to hang out with the Beetle, while the 911's all hang out together on the other side of the lawn like they're the cool kids. Nothing ever changes (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Just kidding man, looks like fun. There is still some truth to this, probably will always be so btw: great looking example |
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