Contracted 914 fever— is this the car to cure it?, What do you think of this ‘73 914 2.0 on Bat— pass or play? Options

[trylon]

Yes, it does smell gamey indeed— I do recall somewhere a mention of leaking CV joints. Happy to hear it might be within my pay grade. Will look into it.

[trylon]

Your idle cold should be around 1600 as it warms. Cold start it will struggle a little but should be around 900-1100, as the car warms the idle will rise to 1600ish, then drop slowly as the AAR closes.

How long did you run it?

Never went above 900 but perhaps I did not run it long enough, only about a minute or so. Will give it a longer try tomorrow and report back.

Thanks for all your help!

[emerygt350]

Oh yeah, 1 minute isn't even close. You could raise a family in the time it takes for the ECU to decide the engine is warm. I would say 10 min driving for the AAR to finish it's job. Much longer for the ECU to start pulling the richness out due to head temp. I don't trust the ECU to believe it's hot until I at least see the oil temp rising past the first little white bar.

[trylon]

Oh yeah, 1 minute isn't even close. You could raise a family in the time it takes for the ECU to decide the engine is warm. I would say 10 min driving for the AAR to finish it's job. Much longer for the ECU to start pulling the richness out due to head temp. I don't trust the ECU to believe it's hot until I at least see the oil temp rising past the first little white bar.

So by the time the engine is deemed warm, you have a new baby and have to give up your two seater!?

Since mine is on a lift and wheel-less, I will leave this testing for a later time.

But this seems the perfect time to see if the CV gasket is the leaky culprit.
So unbolt it, open it, clean it, repack it, new gasket, close it, bolt it?
I know I should remove the joint and inspect but I am trying to stay clear of rabbit holes so I get the car back on the road as soon as possible. Heard no clunking, felt no wobbles…

[emerygt350]

Yep, no need to remove anything from the car. It's just a paper gasket, cheap and easy. The cv grease is the most expensive part of the job. That and the tool for removing the bolts if you don't have one. Make sure the tool goes all the way in. You don't want to strip one of those. I always give it a little tap with the hammer to make sure. They get pretty gunked up. Cleaning them first is a good idea.

[Superhawk996]

That and the tool for removing the bolts if you don't have one. Make sure the tool goes all the way in. You don't want to strip one of those. I always give it a little tap with the hammer to make sure. They get pretty gunked up. Cleaning them first is a good idea.

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Get proper metric triple square tool.

Can’t state it strongly enough DO NOT use a standard 6 point hex or a 12 point star tool (Toyota). They will feel like they fit but will strip the fastener head about 50% of the time if not more.

[emerygt350]

That and the tool for removing the bolts if you don't have one. Make sure the tool goes all the way in. You don't want to strip one of those. I always give it a little tap with the hammer to make sure. They get pretty gunked up. Cleaning them first is a good idea.

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Get proper metric triple square tool.

Can’t state it strongly enough DO NOT use a standard 6 point hex or a 12 point star tool (Toyota). They will feel like they fit but will strip the fastener head about 50% of the time if not more.

https://a.co/d/iT0y9bR

Is the one I used. Amazon

[trylon]

Tool, gasket, grease on order!

[trylon]

Somethings still fishy about the horn.
After all my effort to understand and properly electrically isolate the button, the cliche ‘horn honks when the key is turned on’ has raised its ugly head.

[emerygt350]

Even if the horn button is off the steering wheel?

[trylon]

Even if the horn button is off the steering wheel?

Well, no, not THAT fishy. I reinstalled the horn button simply connecting the wire to it and doing the twist thing to attach the button to the wheel. Turn on ignition and honk.

Going to look at it again right now and see if I can figure out how it is grounding prematurely.

[emerygt350]

Even if the horn button is off the steering wheel?

Well, no, not THAT fishy. I reinstalled the horn button simply connecting the wire to it and doing the twist thing to attach the button to the wheel. Turn on ignition and honk.

Going to look at it again right now and see if I can figure out how it is grounding prematurely.

That big horn is pretty easy to not line up correctly on those 3 prongs. And even when it is on there correctly it honks with the slightest disturbance. I have been quite happy with my 3d printed hockey puck instead. I put it up on thingiverse if you are interested.

[trylon]

Didn’t think I needed to but somehow ‘lectricity was still gettin’ to the ground wire through that bottom (top?) plate. Added three insulators:



Voila! Honks only on demand!

Ok, led headlights, horns refurbished and connected properly, NOS drivers side seat belt, new Michelin radials all round, AAR operational— well, let’s just say its safer than when I got it.

Waitin’ on tool, grease, and gasket to see if we can abate that leak.

Next up, addressing what I can of the engine air issues we discussed.

Got a coffee run to run in a few weeks ending up at Lime Rock for the CVR Porsche Club races! Jeez, actually might make it!

[emerygt350]

Those help.

[trylon]

That big horn is pretty easy to not line up correctly on those 3 prongs. And even when it is on there correctly it honks with the slightest disturbance. I have been quite happy with my 3d printed hockey puck instead. I put it up on thingiverse if you are interested.

Ha! My chase for stock has already been unduly disturbed by the LED headlights— don’t care how og they look. But thanks for the thought!

[emerygt350]

What is this 'stock' word you mention... hah. Stock is all nice and fine at the PCA meet but give me something a little rough around the corners for racing and grocery store parking lots. Oh and the deer. I had one bounce off my passenger door and rear quarter 2 years ago.

[trylon]

What is this 'stock' word you mention... hah. Stock is all nice and fine at the PCA meet but give me something a little rough around the corners for racing and grocery store parking lots. Oh and the deer. I had one bounce off my passenger door and rear quarter 2 years ago.

Would love to see a pic of your 914 one day!

[trylon]

So seems that the bolts on the CV joint have been changed out:







Just happened to have H6 but only for a screwdriver that I cannot generate enough torque for… back to Amazon

[emerygt350]

Would love to see a pic of your 914 one day!

Are you being facetious? That is my 914!

[emerygt350]

So seems that the bolts on the CV joint have been changed out:







Just happened to have H6 but only for a screwdriver that I cannot generate enough torque for… back to Amazon

And I bet you won't find a gasket. Many people forget about them. Not sure how I feel about the change in bolts. Perhaps the hive mind will have some information in that. I suspect those original bolts were particular hardness etc. lots of forces involved there.