2024 Porsche 914?, Dall-E designed Options

[trylon]

[VaccaRabite]

I guess we should expect posts about AI derived cars as a semi-regular thing now.

Zach

[ClayPerrine]

I actually like it. It is a good progression of the 914 design.

[Superhawk996]

Take the badge off the hood and it might not be too bad. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif)

Proof AI doesn’t understand NARP. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

[brant]

I think they should have tried to echo the original fender lines from a 914 versus the big circle cut outs...

but not bad.

[Cairo94507]

I like it but with the change @brant suggested. As soon as I saw the rendering I thought the exact same thing. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

[NARP74]

That badge is too big. Smooth design though.

[Superhawk996]

I think they should have tried to echo the original fender lines from a 914 versus the big circle cut outs...

but not bad.

Be grateful - if it was truly in the style of Dali, the wheels would be squares and probably melting off the edge of the road. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

[trylon]

Just asked ChatGPT for an image of a 2024 Porsche 914 and this is what I got, raw!
Pretty sweet starting point for a auto designer to tweak.

[ClayPerrine]

Even if they built it, it would be half again bigger than a 914. Nobody builds small, light cars like a 914 anymore.

If you want an example of this, look at the original Mini vs the new Mini. The new one is quite a bit bigger.

[Superhawk996]

Even if they built it, it would be half again bigger than a 914. Nobody builds small, light cars like a 914 anymore.

If you want an example of this, look at the original Mini vs the new Mini. The new one is quite a bit bigger.

Ain’t that the sad truth!

[technicalninja]

That looks pretty good in my estimation.

I have done design critique for my dad's stuff for most of my life.

What I see wrong in that picture is this:

As Brant mentioned the wheel arch openings suck. Front is not nearly as bad as the rear.

The proportions are off a tiny bit. The front is slightly too big from the windshield forward. maybe 5-10% too big. Car looks front heavy to me.

I think the targa bar should be more pronounced where it blends into the body at the bottom. Making this look more 911 like is a good call IMO.

Line at front upper door to fender is too curvy. Needs to be curved, just less.

No rear hood part line, windshield wipers, mirrors, etc.
It is an illustration...

I'd make the rocker panels more flared at the ends. Give the rocker a little bit of a coke bottle shape.

What's up with the rear spoiler/scoop looking this on the back?
I'd want to see more angles of that.
Looks funny at this perspective.

The fabricator in me sees no part line for front bumper/cap; needs one.

The technician in me sees almost no camber in the suspension alignment.

That would have taken my dad a week of 2-3 hours a night to produce.

His design would NOT have had that nice background and road.

I wonder how long it took an AI to do that?

Probably seconds...

The shape of the front end is excellent IMO.
We will be making a nose cap for the 916 clone and I will probably incorporate something similar.

[trylon]

That looks pretty good in my estimation.

I have done design critique for my dad's stuff for most of my life.

What I see wrong in that picture is this:

As Brant mentioned the wheel arch openings suck. Front is not nearly as bad as the rear.

The proportions are off a tiny bit. The front is slightly too big from the windshield forward. maybe 5-10% too big. Car looks front heavy to me.

I think the targa bar should be more pronounced where it blends into the body at the bottom. Making this look more 911 like is a good call IMO.

Line at front upper door to fender is too curvy. Needs to be curved, just less.

No rear hood part line, windshield wipers, mirrors, etc.
It is an illustration...

I'd make the rocker panels more flared at the ends. Give the rocker a little bit of a coke bottle shape.

What's up with the rear spoiler/scoop looking this on the back?
I'd want to see more angles of that.
Looks funny at this perspective.

The fabricator in me sees no part line for front bumper/cap; needs one.

The technician in me sees almost no camber in the suspension alignment.

That would have taken my dad a week of 2-3 hours a night to produce.

His design would NOT have had that nice background and road.

I wonder how long it took an AI to do that?

Probably seconds...

The shape of the front end is excellent IMO.
We will be making a nose cap for the 916 clone and I will probably incorporate something similar.

So interesting to hear your comments! Yes, I would say the actual processing time to produce this was probably less than a second though I am not well versed in this particular technology. [just checked with Chat about this— you are correct “a matter of seconds”]

Here is the prompt ChatGPT created to send to DALL-E (guess I said 2023):

"A modern 2023 Porsche 914 concept car. The design should be a contemporary reinterpretation of the classic Porsche 914's design elements, featuring its distinctive targa top and mid-engine layout. The updated version should have a more aggressive stance with sleek, aerodynamic lines, LED lighting, and modern alloy wheels. The car should be placed in a setting that suggests performance and luxury, such as a winding coastal road or a sophisticated urban environment."

I asked Chat what would happen with minor tweak suggestions:

“If you request tweaks to the original prompt, the new image generated by DALL·E will likely have noticeable differences. The AI uses the text prompt to create an image based on patterns it learned during training, so even small changes to the prompt can result in different details in the image. The overall concept may remain recognizable, especially if the changes are minor, but the exact outcome can be unpredictable. Each generation is unique, and DALL·E may interpret the same prompt with slight variations each time.”

I then asked Chat to recreate the image incorporating the comments made in your critque:



Here’s the prompt it created:

"A refined 2023 Porsche 914 concept car addressing specific design critiques. Adjust the wheel arch openings to be less pronounced in the rear, and subtly alter the car's proportions to reduce the front section by 5-10%, balancing the vehicle's stance. The targa bar should be more distinct where it merges into the body, resembling the 911 style. Soften the curvature of the line from the upper door to the fender. Add necessary details like rear hood part lines, windshield wipers, and mirrors. Flare the rocker panels more at the ends, giving them a slight 'coke bottle' shape. Rework the rear spoiler to appear more integrated and less awkward from the current perspective. Include a part line for the front bumper to distinguish it, and adjust the suspension to show a more realistic camber."

So I think the lesson learned here is that this is not a viable design tool — at the moment. Nice idea generating tool but not tuned for tweaking.

[Superhawk996]

So it spat out a modified Dino?? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

[technicalninja]

OK, this is the COOLEST thing I've ever come across in 50 years of being around an automotive shape designer (I cannot do this type of stuff myself nearly as well as my dad but he is a piss poor technician!) and to be able to produce "concept" type designs at a whim is awesome!

I liked the first one better, but it came up with yet another reasonable design in seconds...

Still look front heavy to me!

Thanks for sharing.

I cannot wait to show my dad this thread!!!!

It will piss him off, but he will instantly see the benefits to at least trying this...

[euro911]

I thought the Boxter was the evolution, or rebirth of the 914 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)

[JmuRiz]

...because it is. The Boxster/Cayman is the new 914 (but the 914 did both body styles at the same time)

[trylon]

I will let Chat chime in on this:

“The driving experience in the Boxster is more refined and accessible, but potentially less raw and connected than the experience of driving a 914. Enthusiasts often appreciate the direct and unassisted feedback from older cars like the 914, which can make them feel more engaged with the vehicle’s handling.”

[trylon]

OK, this is the COOLEST thing I've ever come across in 50 years of being around an automotive shape designer (I cannot do this type of stuff myself nearly as well as my dad but he is a piss poor technician!) and to be able to produce "concept" type designs at a whim is awesome!

I liked the first one better, but it came up with yet another reasonable design in seconds...

Still look front heavy to me!

Thanks for sharing.

I cannot wait to show my dad this thread!!!!

It will piss him off, but he will instantly see the benefits to at least trying this...

I would love to hear his reaction!

[Jack Standz]

Maybe you could have it design a "modern" 914 with an aircooled motor?

The huge opening in the front hints of some kind of water pumper motor & doesn't look right. Looks more like a Fiero GT (not that there's anything wrong with that).