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> unusual 914 prototype/design study.
wonkipop
post Dec 27 2023, 04:26 PM
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anyone able to translate german?


https://www.gute-fahrt.de/porsche/porsche-k...-anderen-augen/


had come across a photo of this one before - always thought it was an airbrush design drawing/touched up photo for a design study.

not so? -- looks like it was real?

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post Dec 27 2023, 04:35 PM
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Looks similar to this design from the article from the best 914 article thread.

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post Dec 27 2023, 04:41 PM
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the other image i have seen of it.
which i did not think was a real car.
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EDIT - used my chrome browser to go into it again and translate from german.

its real and its a design study by karmann.
the files are held in the collection of the former karmann factory.
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post Dec 27 2023, 04:48 PM
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The introduction translates something like this,: "Agfa Gevaert" is written on the orange-red cardboard box for photo paper that Klaus-Dieter Ulrich, curator of the vehicle collection in Osnabrück, pulls out of his office cupboard: "You were looking for something about the Porsche 914. I have something there."

The second parts translates, "With these words he opens the box and hands it over. The contents are a small sensation: a whole stack of press photos, some of which are sorted into the typical wine-red plastic folders in A4 format that were popular in the 60s and early 70s. The pictures, dated August 20, 1970, show two vehicles in the courtyard of the villa right at the Karmann factory gate. One car is a 914/4 as we know it. However, the other has fixed dual headlights. A hint of Opel Manta B is in the air. The background to this prototype from 1970: the expected stricter registration regulations in the USA. They wanted to get away from the pop-up headlights and the high-beam headlights should be mounted higher. Ultimately it remained a prototype that was scrapped. Unfortunately, further documents on the project are missing. But the press photos are still there - and are probably appearing here for the first time in a magazine.Handmade This is how the spotlights would have been adjusted. Good to see: the rather crude welding work on the 914.

The two picture captions are:

(1st pic)The Porsche 914 appears completely changed with the new front section, which Karmann presented as a proposal in 1970.

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(2nd pic)Manual work This is how the headlights would have been adjusted. Good to see: the rather crude welding work on the 914.

I'm sure someone will have a better way to translate the article.


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post Dec 27 2023, 08:46 PM
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Wow, I also thought it was an edited photo
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post Dec 27 2023, 10:28 PM
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Michael

its a Karmann alternative prototype
see Excellence

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post Dec 27 2023, 11:27 PM
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QUOTE(wonkipop @ Dec 27 2023, 02:26 PM) *

anyone able to translate german?

A design that was proposed by Karmann and (thankfully) rejected.
The car was crushed.

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post Dec 28 2023, 12:23 AM
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QUOTE(gulf908 @ Dec 27 2023, 10:28 PM) *

Michael

its a Karmann alternative prototype
see Excellence

cheers
Dennis


thanks mr. gulf.
i got an old excellence. first edition. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
just the one book.
old karl had not found that proto back in 77 for inclusion!
suppose i should buy his up to date expanded "library".

hows the six going? getting it out for blockies around the opera house?

found this german article doing my annual L jet research.
also stumbled on these from a blog on auto shows from the 70s.
karl's got them in his book and mr. b ( @JeffBowlsby ) has them on his website.
but not these photos.

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the last one with the flip out 70s side stripes sure has got its arse planted down.
a VW test engineer must have done the suspension settings on that one. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer.gif)
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post Dec 28 2023, 12:27 AM
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QUOTE(SirAndy @ Dec 27 2023, 11:27 PM) *

QUOTE(wonkipop @ Dec 27 2023, 02:26 PM) *

anyone able to translate german?

A design that was proposed by Karmann and (thankfully) rejected.
The car was crushed.

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/bye1.gif)


they sold it on to ford? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer.gif)

if you look close at the photo you can see they glued the rear view mirror on half way down the windscreen. one too many beers at lunchtime?
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post Dec 28 2023, 03:09 AM
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QUOTE(wonkipop @ Dec 27 2023, 10:23 PM) *

mr. b ( @JeffBowlsby ) has them on his website.
but not these photos.

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the last one with the flip out 70s side stripes sure has got its arse planted down.
a VW test engineer must have done the suspension settings on that one. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer.gif)


Ooh la la....thanks.
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