Sale Pending - My purchase of 9140431482, Just facts; no spin or opinion Options

[KELTY360]

The question was about what a wise man would do.

[Rufus]

I'm very interested in learning what's discovered with the floorpan.

- MR

Even MR’s interested …

[Rufus]

The question was about what a wise man would do.

Thanks for the compliment, Kelty360

[sixaddict]

I really feel ADmin should end this ………PLEASE!
This is not what this site is about and lister will obviously not stop unless someone takes control.

[mountainroads]

3) I need to correct one detail that keeps coming up. The front latch panel was correct when Gamroth inspected the car. Chris noted it in my initial PPI. Rillos noticed it, sourced a used donor panel, and welded it in prior to painting. Gamroth apparently failed to note it had been replaced.

“The front latch panel was correct when Gamroth inspected the car.”

MR, is this your belief?

Yes - that is my belief. CORRECT. Not ORIGINAL. I was told it wasn't correct during the bodywork and Rillos replaced it with a donor panel. If it isn't the correct panel for a 1970, then that's another dropped ball by Rillos.

Ironically, I considered a nice new generously applied coat of Wurth to be a good thing. Yes, I know that can be used to hide things, but I had no reason to suspect that was the case.

I have no idea what could possibly NOT be public information at this point.

I'm done posting to this thread. I'd be willing to engage in constructive dialogue if I thought it would help or do any good, but I've concluded there's no point. There's nothing I can do or say that'll change anything.

- MR

[Rufus]

3) I need to correct one detail that keeps coming up. The front latch panel was correct when Gamroth inspected the car. Chris noted it in my initial PPI. Rillos noticed it, sourced a used donor panel, and welded it in prior to painting. Gamroth apparently failed to note it had been replaced.

“The front latch panel was correct when Gamroth inspected the car.”

MR, is this your belief?

- MR

“ Yes - that is my belief. CORRECT. Not ORIGINAL. I was told it wasn't correct during the bodywork and Rillos replaced it with a donor panel. If it isn't the correct panel for a 1970, then that's another dropped ball by Rillos.”


Interesting … just interesting.

[KELTY360]

What did the longs and jack posts look like when you pulled the rocker covers?

[Rufus]

What did the longs and jack posts look like when you pulled the rocker covers?

TBD … tried removing today, but couldn’t get ‘em off.

I’m where the car is at my wife’s home. My Haynes manual’s at my house 60+ miles away. Haven’t been able to remove them after removing the screws on top near the sill plate, bolts along the bottom, two screws at the front and rear ends inside the wheels wells, and razor cut all the heads off the two rows of plastic (rivets?) thingies on the sill plate surface. My first time obviously, what am I missing? Thanks for your help

[Rufus]

On the subject of 2020 914/6 market values.

The advert for my mine was placed on 5/31/20 for $59,500. Its deviations from stock are mostly documented here; non matching #’s, flared / rolled fenders, incorrect front cross panel, incorrect later rear bumper & valance which I don’t mind; just not a plus.

I find only two true 914/6’s on BaT within +/-3 months; (w/in the 3/1/2020 - 9/1/2020 range):

1.
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1970-porsche-914-6-29/
3/20/2020, 1970, Irish Green, #’s matching, CoA, records back to 1973, Mahle gas burners, correct & rare porthole rear valance, MY correct front cross panel, but did not meet reserve @ $73,000.

Market refused to pay more than $73,000 on 3/20/2020.

2.
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1971-porsche-914-6-10/
7/8/20, rare 1971 MY, rare gold metallic, possible but unconfirmed matching #’s, a few rare options, paint & trim work needed, MY correct front cross panel, sold for $76,000


Widening out to +/-6 months adds two more:

3.
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1970-porsche-914-6-35/
9/8/2020, 1970 2.7L twin plug 315 hp highly modded wide body race car, lots of race goodies, separate #’s matching engine, CoA, maybe MY correct front cross panel, sold for $92,000.

4.
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1970-porsche-914-6-28/
9/22/2020, 1970 993 3.6L, GT wide body with many desirable mods, separate #’s matching engine, CoA, recent Patrick service, featured in June 2000 Excellence, MY correct front cross panel, sold for $100,000.

If I were selling all 4 at the same time, I know how I’d rank them in price; how ‘bout you?

[Craigers17]

So this thread is obviously very long, but I think you said you RECEIVED the car back in November of 2020. One would expect that, at that time, you would have completed a comprehensive inspection of the vehicle yourself(especially given the standard you are holding everyone else to), having spent 50K + on the vehicle and more additional cash on repairs.

Given that assumption, why didn't this thread come up nearly three and a half years ago? Was the rust hidden so that you didn't notice it? What made you suspicious of there being rust issues? Was it paint bubbling? Was it possible that the paint just started bubbling recently and that clued you in to the rust issues? If YOU didn't notice the rust issues for over three years, how can you hold the PO or the gentleman that did the PPI to a higher standard than yourself? If the rust issues didn't reveal themselves until recently, it would be very difficult to understand how you could blame anyone but the shop that did the paint job, and since you didn't commission that paint job, I highly doubt you'd have any recourse against that vendor. I ASSUME most bodyshops don't warranty anything for more than a year or two.

[mate914]

3) I need to correct one detail that keeps coming up. The front latch panel was correct when Gamroth inspected the car. Chris noted it in my initial PPI. Rillos noticed it, sourced a used donor panel, and welded it in prior to painting. Gamroth apparently failed to note it had been replaced.

“The front latch panel was correct when Gamroth inspected the car.”

MR, is this your belief?

Yes - that is my belief. CORRECT. Not ORIGINAL. I was told it wasn't correct during the bodywork and Rillos replaced it with a donor panel. If it isn't the correct panel for a 1970, then that's another dropped ball by Rillos.

Ironically, I considered a nice new generously applied coat of Wurth to be a good thing. Yes, I know that can be used to hide things, but I had no reason to suspect that was the case.

I have no idea what could possibly NOT be public information at this point.

I'm done posting to this thread. I'd be willing to engage in constructive dialogue if I thought it would help or do any good, but I've concluded there's no point. There's nothing I can do or say that'll change anything.

- MR

Its almost like we are talking to a bot. It never receives info and uses it. The bot just keeps sowing hate and division. Then the bot goes on with more hate. I call bot... Not a Man.
Matt (IMG:style_emoticons/default/flag.gif)

[Rufus]

So this thread is obviously very long, but I think you said you RECEIVED the car back in November of 2020. One would expect that, at that time, you would have completed a comprehensive inspection of the vehicle yourself(especially given the standard you are holding everyone else to), having spent 50K + on the vehicle and more additional cash on repairs.

Given that assumption, why didn't this thread come up nearly three and a half years ago? Was the rust hidden so that you didn't notice it? What made you suspicious of there being rust issues? Was it paint bubbling? Was it possible that the paint just started bubbling recently and that clued you in to the rust issues? If YOU didn't notice the rust issues for over three years, how can you hold the PO or the gentleman that did the PPI to a higher standard than yourself? If the rust issues didn't reveal themselves until recently, it would be very difficult to understand how you could blame anyone but the shop that did the paint job, and since you didn't commission that paint job, I highly doubt you'd have any recourse against that vendor. I ASSUME most bodyshops don't warranty anything for more than a year or two.

All very reasonable questions, for which there are logical and reasonable answers. But since that’s all outside the scope of my thread, to document findings during my dissection of the car, I won’t go into them.

[Rufus]

3) I need to correct one detail that keeps coming up. The front latch panel was correct when Gamroth inspected the car. Chris noted it in my initial PPI. Rillos noticed it, sourced a used donor panel, and welded it in prior to painting. Gamroth apparently failed to note it had been replaced.

“The front latch panel was correct when Gamroth inspected the car.”

MR, is this your belief?

Yes - that is my belief. CORRECT. Not ORIGINAL. I was told it wasn't correct during the bodywork and Rillos replaced it with a donor panel. If it isn't the correct panel for a 1970, then that's another dropped ball by Rillos.

Ironically, I considered a nice new generously applied coat of Wurth to be a good thing. Yes, I know that can be used to hide things, but I had no reason to suspect that was the case.

I have no idea what could possibly NOT be public information at this point.

I'm done posting to this thread. I'd be willing to engage in constructive dialogue if I thought it would help or do any good, but I've concluded there's no point. There's nothing I can do or say that'll change anything.

- MR

Its almost like we are talking to a bot. It never receives info and uses it. The bot just keeps sowing hate and division. Then the bot goes on with more hate. I call bot... Not a Man.
Matt (IMG:style_emoticons/default/flag.gif)

Good morning, Matt

BTW: my name’s Bob; not bot

[mate914]

3) I need to correct one detail that keeps coming up. The front latch panel was correct when Gamroth inspected the car. Chris noted it in my initial PPI. Rillos noticed it, sourced a used donor panel, and welded it in prior to painting. Gamroth apparently failed to note it had been replaced.

“The front latch panel was correct when Gamroth inspected the car.”

MR, is this your belief?

Yes - that is my belief. CORRECT. Not ORIGINAL. I was told it wasn't correct during the bodywork and Rillos replaced it with a donor panel. If it isn't the correct panel for a 1970, then that's another dropped ball by Rillos.

Ironically, I considered a nice new generously applied coat of Wurth to be a good thing. Yes, I know that can be used to hide things, but I had no reason to suspect that was the case.

I have no idea what could possibly NOT be public information at this point.

I'm done posting to this thread. I'd be willing to engage in constructive dialogue if I thought it would help or do any good, but I've concluded there's no point. There's nothing I can do or say that'll change anything.

- MR

Its almost like we are talking to a bot. It never receives info and uses it. The bot just keeps sowing hate and division. Then the bot goes on with more hate. I call bot... Not a Man.
Matt (IMG:style_emoticons/default/flag.gif)

Good morning, Matt

BTW: my name’s Bob; not bot

Hi Bot. Another day of blaming everyone else. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bye1.gif)

[Rufus]

3) I need to correct one detail that keeps coming up. The front latch panel was correct when Gamroth inspected the car. Chris noted it in my initial PPI. Rillos noticed it, sourced a used donor panel, and welded it in prior to painting. Gamroth apparently failed to note it had been replaced.

“The front latch panel was correct when Gamroth inspected the car.”

MR, is this your belief?

Yes - that is my belief. CORRECT. Not ORIGINAL. I was told it wasn't correct during the bodywork and Rillos replaced it with a donor panel. If it isn't the correct panel for a 1970, then that's another dropped ball by Rillos.

Ironically, I considered a nice new generously applied coat of Wurth to be a good thing. Yes, I know that can be used to hide things, but I had no reason to suspect that was the case.

I have no idea what could possibly NOT be public information at this point.

I'm done posting to this thread. I'd be willing to engage in constructive dialogue if I thought it would help or do any good, but I've concluded there's no point. There's nothing I can do or say that'll change anything.

- MR

Its almost like we are talking to a bot. It never receives info and uses it. The bot just keeps sowing hate and division. Then the bot goes on with more hate. I call bot... Not a Man.
Matt (IMG:style_emoticons/default/flag.gif)

Good morning, Matt

BTW: my name’s Bob; not bot

Hi Bot. Another day of blaming everyone else. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bye1.gif)

Glad to see you in such a cheery mood today, Matt

[mate914]

3) I need to correct one detail that keeps coming up. The front latch panel was correct when Gamroth inspected the car. Chris noted it in my initial PPI. Rillos noticed it, sourced a used donor panel, and welded it in prior to painting. Gamroth apparently failed to note it had been replaced.

“The front latch panel was correct when Gamroth inspected the car.”

MR, is this your belief?

Yes - that is my belief. CORRECT. Not ORIGINAL. I was told it wasn't correct during the bodywork and Rillos replaced it with a donor panel. If it isn't the correct panel for a 1970, then that's another dropped ball by Rillos.

Ironically, I considered a nice new generously applied coat of Wurth to be a good thing. Yes, I know that can be used to hide things, but I had no reason to suspect that was the case.

I have no idea what could possibly NOT be public information at this point.

I'm done posting to this thread. I'd be willing to engage in constructive dialogue if I thought it would help or do any good, but I've concluded there's no point. There's nothing I can do or say that'll change anything.

- MR

Its almost like we are talking to a bot. It never receives info and uses it. The bot just keeps sowing hate and division. Then the bot goes on with more hate. I call bot... Not a Man.
Matt (IMG:style_emoticons/default/flag.gif)

Good morning, Matt

BTW: my name’s Bob; not bot

Hi Bot. Another day of blaming everyone else. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bye1.gif)

Glad to see you in such a cheery mood today, Matt

Bob,
Do you need help removing your rockers still? That will tell you a lot about your 914-6. I'm surprised you didn't do that when you got the car....
Matt (IMG:style_emoticons/default/flag.gif)

[Rufus]

3) I need to correct one detail that keeps coming up. The front latch panel was correct when Gamroth inspected the car. Chris noted it in my initial PPI. Rillos noticed it, sourced a used donor panel, and welded it in prior to painting. Gamroth apparently failed to note it had been replaced.

“The front latch panel was correct when Gamroth inspected the car.”

MR, is this your belief?

Yes - that is my belief. CORRECT. Not ORIGINAL. I was told it wasn't correct during the bodywork and Rillos replaced it with a donor panel. If it isn't the correct panel for a 1970, then that's another dropped ball by Rillos.

Ironically, I considered a nice new generously applied coat of Wurth to be a good thing. Yes, I know that can be used to hide things, but I had no reason to suspect that was the case.

I have no idea what could possibly NOT be public information at this point.

I'm done posting to this thread. I'd be willing to engage in constructive dialogue if I thought it would help or do any good, but I've concluded there's no point. There's nothing I can do or say that'll change anything.

- MR

Its almost like we are talking to a bot. It never receives info and uses it. The bot just keeps sowing hate and division. Then the bot goes on with more hate. I call bot... Not a Man.
Matt (IMG:style_emoticons/default/flag.gif)

Good morning, Matt

BTW: my name’s Bob; not bot

Hi Bot. Another day of blaming everyone else. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bye1.gif)

Glad to see you in such a cheery mood today, Matt

Bob,
Do you need help removing your rockers still? That will tell you a lot about your 914-6. I'm surprised you didn't do that when you got the car....
Matt (IMG:style_emoticons/default/flag.gif)

Yep, I haven’t tried again after trying yesterday. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated

[KELTY360]

3) I need to correct one detail that keeps coming up. The front latch panel was correct when Gamroth inspected the car. Chris noted it in my initial PPI. Rillos noticed it, sourced a used donor panel, and welded it in prior to painting. Gamroth apparently failed to note it had been replaced.

“The front latch panel was correct when Gamroth inspected the car.”

MR, is this your belief?

Yes - that is my belief. CORRECT. Not ORIGINAL. I was told it wasn't correct during the bodywork and Rillos replaced it with a donor panel. If it isn't the correct panel for a 1970, then that's another dropped ball by Rillos.

Ironically, I considered a nice new generously applied coat of Wurth to be a good thing. Yes, I know that can be used to hide things, but I had no reason to suspect that was the case.

I have no idea what could possibly NOT be public information at this point.

I'm done posting to this thread. I'd be willing to engage in constructive dialogue if I thought it would help or do any good, but I've concluded there's no point. There's nothing I can do or say that'll change anything.

- MR

Its almost like we are talking to a bot. It never receives info and uses it. The bot just keeps sowing hate and division. Then the bot goes on with more hate. I call bot... Not a Man.
Matt (IMG:style_emoticons/default/flag.gif)

Good morning, Matt

BTW: my name’s Bob; not bot

Hi Bot. Another day of blaming everyone else. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bye1.gif)

Glad to see you in such a cheery mood today, Matt

Bob,
Do you need help removing your rockers still? That will tell you a lot about your 914-6. I'm surprised you didn't do that when you got the car....
Matt (IMG:style_emoticons/default/flag.gif)

Yep, I haven’t tried again after trying yesterday. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated

Use the search.
Inspecting the longs is the starting point for evaluating a 914 purchase. There are lots of threads.

[Rufus]

3) I need to correct one detail that keeps coming up. The front latch panel was correct when Gamroth inspected the car. Chris noted it in my initial PPI. Rillos noticed it, sourced a used donor panel, and welded it in prior to painting. Gamroth apparently failed to note it had been replaced.

“The front latch panel was correct when Gamroth inspected the car.”

MR, is this your belief?

Yes - that is my belief. CORRECT. Not ORIGINAL. I was told it wasn't correct during the bodywork and Rillos replaced it with a donor panel. If it isn't the correct panel for a 1970, then that's another dropped ball by Rillos.

Ironically, I considered a nice new generously applied coat of Wurth to be a good thing. Yes, I know that can be used to hide things, but I had no reason to suspect that was the case.

I have no idea what could possibly NOT be public information at this point.

I'm done posting to this thread. I'd be willing to engage in constructive dialogue if I thought it would help or do any good, but I've concluded there's no point. There's nothing I can do or say that'll change anything.

- MR

Its almost like we are talking to a bot. It never receives info and uses it. The bot just keeps sowing hate and division. Then the bot goes on with more hate. I call bot... Not a Man.
Matt (IMG:style_emoticons/default/flag.gif)

Good morning, Matt

BTW: my name’s Bob; not bot

Hi Bot. Another day of blaming everyone else. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bye1.gif)

Glad to see you in such a cheery mood today, Matt

Bob,
Do you need help removing your rockers still? That will tell you a lot about your 914-6. I'm surprised you didn't do that when you got the car....
Matt (IMG:style_emoticons/default/flag.gif)

Yep, I haven’t tried again after trying yesterday. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated

Use the search.
Inspecting the longs is the starting point for evaluating a 914 purchase. There are lots of threads.

Gotcha, thanks!

[rhodyguy]

I find 16 quotes/reposts excessive.