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> Cairo's Six - 3.6 in and running great!
Steve
post May 23 2024, 07:41 AM
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(IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) Looking good!!
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post May 23 2024, 07:52 AM
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That's a clean machine!
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post May 23 2024, 07:59 AM
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Thanks Steve and Chris; I am getting pretty excited. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

Here are a couple photos my brother took yesterday while we worked.

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post May 23 2024, 08:53 AM
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I slot Cairo's car in the "Museum Piece" bracket.

Show only, no use application.

It REALLY looks too nice to drive!

I'd have that insured through Hagerty's for a significant valuation.

After the 3.6 is done 200K is not out of the question IMO.

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1972-pors...build-with-3-6/
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post May 23 2024, 09:08 AM
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The 901 looks tiny in comparison to the monster 3.6
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post May 23 2024, 09:36 AM
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@technicalninja - Thanks for the extreme compliment; however, I actually drive this car regularly. It is not a trailer or garage queen. It was purpose built and I will continue to drive it as much as possible. We have put just under 10K miles on it since it returned to the road in August of '20. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif)
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post May 23 2024, 02:56 PM
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You are going to have to redo the plumbing for the fuel system. On the 3.6, the fuel inlet is on one side of the motor, and the outlet is on the other side. The 914 fuel lines are on the same side of the motor.

So you either have to move the fuel return line to the left side of the the chassis, or rework the fuel plumbing on the engine to bring the return line back over to the passenger side.


Good Luck.
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post May 23 2024, 05:35 PM
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OK - one more thing to add to the list; good to know. Thank you Clay for keeping an eye on this so hopefully we avoid some of the pitfalls. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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post May 23 2024, 05:50 PM
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QUOTE(Cairo94507 @ May 23 2024, 06:35 PM) *

OK - one more thing to add to the list; good to know. Thank you Clay for keeping an eye on this so hopefully we avoid some of the pitfalls. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)


When I did my 964 motor, I rerouted the fuel lines on top of the engine so they both came out on the passenger side to match the existing fuel lines in the chassis. I would suggest that you do something like that. Most 964/993 engines need the fuel lines replaced anyway due to them becoming brittle with age.



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post May 23 2024, 08:07 PM
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QUOTE(ClayPerrine @ May 23 2024, 04:50 PM) *

QUOTE(Cairo94507 @ May 23 2024, 06:35 PM) *

OK - one more thing to add to the list; good to know. Thank you Clay for keeping an eye on this so hopefully we avoid some of the pitfalls. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)


When I did my 964 motor, I rerouted the fuel lines on top of the engine so they both came out on the passenger side to match the existing fuel lines in the chassis. I would suggest that you do something like that. Most 964/993 engines need the fuel lines replaced anyway due to them becoming brittle with age.

Aye, i forgot about that. I went with the stock location for the lines (Stainless from Tangerine) and then extended the supply line across the rear trunk wall (above the engine) to the driver side using metal tubing similar to the Tangerine lines.

Kinda hard to explain, let me see if i can find any pics.
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post May 23 2024, 08:12 PM
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From here

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to here

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to here

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which is also where i added the fuel filter, right before it feeds into the injection rails
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(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads/post-179-1255294222.jpg)
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post May 24 2024, 07:12 AM
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We will definitely look at this the next time we get to work on it. Thank you again Clay @ClayPerrine and Andy @SirAndy for helping us out. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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post May 24 2024, 07:20 AM
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I tool the pressure line on top of the engine apart and rebuilt it with new hose. When I did, I flipped the center section so the fitting was on the side next to the battery tray. If you look close, you can see it in this picture.

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It is between the two rear intake runners,and under the injector rail.
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post May 24 2024, 09:08 AM
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QUOTE(SirAndy @ May 23 2024, 08:12 PM) *

From here

to here

to here

which is also where i added the fuel filter, right before it feeds into the injection rails
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Is that a Gatorade economy catch can?

what flavor (IMG:style_emoticons/default/aktion035.gif)
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QUOTE(930cabman @ May 24 2024, 08:08 AM) *

Is that a Gatorade economy catch can?

what flavor (IMG:style_emoticons/default/aktion035.gif)

"Misty Oil with a hint of Brackish Dew"
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post May 26 2024, 11:53 AM
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Just ordered the cylinder head temperature sensor; hope it arrives quickly. I can't believe I did not notice that before. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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QUOTE(Cairo94507 @ May 26 2024, 12:53 PM) *

Just ordered the cylinder head temperature sensor; hope it arrives quickly. I can't believe I did not notice that before. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)



Yea.. you're gonna need that. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post May 28 2024, 07:41 AM
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Yesterday, Greg, my brother and I went to the Diablo Region PCA Wash 'n Shine at the Danville Livery (Sycamore Valley Rd and San Ramon Valley Blvd). It was a terrific day with perfect weather. There were a whole lot of Porsches in attendance. Amazingly, only 2 993 cars attended, a '98 and a '96. We needed a '95 OBD 1 car.

Fortunately, Alex had reached out to me and said he had a '95 993 and lived in San Ramon. He was only 7 miles from the car show. Greg and I drove to his home and saw his absolutely stunning and pristine 993 Coupe with about 60K miles on it. We were able to take photos and look at harness routing. That will certainly help us get one step closer to getting the engine installed. Thank you very much Alex.

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I am guessing we don't need the heater fan blower sensor or the charcoal canister valve assembly? @sirandy where did you plumb the charcoal canister connections? Normally one goes to the shroud and one goes to the air cleaner. On the 993 it goes through a valve assembly that connects to the intake manifold.
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QUOTE(Steve @ May 28 2024, 09:01 AM) *

I am guessing we don't need the heater fan blower sensor or the charcoal canister valve assembly? @sirandy where did you plumb the charcoal canister connections? Normally one goes to the shroud and one goes to the air cleaner. On the 993 it goes through a valve assembly that connects to the intake manifold.


You are going to need the charcoal canister solenoid to keep the DME from setting codes. And you can plumb that back into the 914 charcoal canister system.

The 914 charcoal canister system is a blow through system. The 993 charcoal canister is a suck through system. You hook the line for the charcoal canister that originally hooked to the fan shroud and hook it to the air cleaner Hook the other line to the 993 charcoal canster valve that connects to the intake.



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