Cairo's Six - 3.6 in and running great! Options

[Cairo94507]

@ClayPerrine & @Steve . What does the charcoal canister solenoid look like? I am thinking I do not have one.... But I do have the original charcoal canister in my trunk though. Just have to run new lines to it as it was terminated in the front fender when we had the 3.2 in the car.

[SirAndy]

I am guessing we don't need the heater fan blower sensor or the charcoal canister valve assembly? @sirandy where did you plumb the charcoal canister connections? Normally one goes to the shroud and one goes to the air cleaner. On the 993 it goes through a valve assembly that connects to the intake manifold.

I honestly don't remember ...
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[Steve]

@ClayPerrine & @Steve . What does the charcoal canister solenoid look like? I am thinking I do not have one.... But I do have the original charcoal canister in my trunk though. Just have to run new lines to it as it was terminated in the front fender when we had the 3.2 in the car.

@cairo94507
He’s referring to this hose and solenoid. I will put mine back. Thanks Clay!

Here’s a picture of where it connects on the top of the panel.

[Cairo94507]

Cool; I may have that. We are back at it tomorrow, so I will look and see. Thanks guys. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

[Steve]

75 cars have the charcoal canister in the engine compartment and run one hose from the tank versus two if you mount the charcoal canister on the gas tank. My charcoal canister fits perfect between the battery tray and the firewall. Just depends if you want a factory look. Did your car come with a charcoal Canister? I read the real sixes had a “T” that connected the tank overflow to the vapor hose out the bottom of the car.

[Cairo94507]

@Steve Yes, my car came with a charcoal canister mounted on top of the gas tank.

[ClayPerrine]

This may help you:



Basically hook the diaphragm valve to the charcoal canister line that went to the air cleaner, and hook the other one to the 911 air cleaner. The reason for doing it this way is the charcoal canister has to have the correct airflow direction to work properly. Hooking it up like this makes sure the airflow is correct in the canister.

[Cairo94507]

Yesterday we were able to make the "pipe" that will be the idle control valve hook-up. Made it out of 1" SS mandrel bends. Greg welded it and it is going to relocate the idle control valve down below the intake, near where the cruise control module once lived. We just wanted to get that off the top of the motor for aesthetics.

Then we pulled out the 993 harness that came with the engine, to connect the DME, engine harness and the car. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) After spending over 2 hours looking at wiring schematics for the '95 993 3.6, the only 2 connections that are correct are the knox sensors. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) We started looking up wiring colors and nothing matches the harness we have. In then end, we believe we do not have a 993 harness. We were able to identify a few plugs that are correctly colored for a 964. I contacted the seller (not Chris) and he said "that's the harness I got with the motor". He did say he would check his inventory of parts and see if he had another harness. Fingers crossed that he just gave me the wrong harness. Very frustrating as we had hoped to be able to get most of the wiring sorted yesterday.

I am also going to reach out to a custom harness maker and see what that would look like.

Anyway, if it was easy, everyone would do it. We shall get this sorted. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

[SirAndy]

Hard to tell from the picture but make sure you still have enough room for the crank case venting hose that also needs to go down there.

The custom pipe looks really nice! I might steal that idea.
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[Steve]

Basically hook the diaphragm valve to the charcoal canister line that went to the air cleaner, and hook the other one to the 911 air cleaner. The reason for doing it this way is the charcoal canister has to have the correct airflow direction to work properly. Hooking it up like this makes sure the airflow is correct in the canister.

Thanks @clayperrine Is the diaphragm a 964 part? We just have a control solenoid on the motor. Where is the diaphragm at on a 1995 993?

[ClayPerrine]

Basically hook the diaphragm valve to the charcoal canister line that went to the air cleaner, and hook the other one to the 911 air cleaner. The reason for doing it this way is the charcoal canister has to have the correct airflow direction to work properly. Hooking it up like this makes sure the airflow is correct in the canister.

Thanks @clayperrine Is the diaphragm a 964 part? We just have a control solenoid on the motor. Where is the diaphragm at on a 1995 993?

The 993 uses a slightly different system. I don't think it is compatible with the 914 charcoal canister. Just get the 964 diaphragm valve and hook it up like a 964.

[Cairo94507]

@SirAndy - When making the "pipe" we allowed for the crank case breather hose. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif). Nice looking out though. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

[Steve]

Basically hook the diaphragm valve to the charcoal canister line that went to the air cleaner, and hook the other one to the 911 air cleaner. The reason for doing it this way is the charcoal canister has to have the correct airflow direction to work properly. Hooking it up like this makes sure the airflow is correct in the canister.

Thanks @clayperrine Is the diaphragm a 964 part? We just have a control solenoid on the motor. Where is the diaphragm at on a 1995 993?

The 993 uses a slightly different system. I don't think it is compatible with the 914 charcoal canister. Just get the 964 diaphragm valve and hook it up like a 964.

@clayperrine is the part number 928-110-429-09-OEM ? Porsche Fuel Tank Breather Valve. It looks like the correct part.

[Cairo94507]

Just bought the correct '95 993 3.6 harness; should have it in my hands by Tuesday. YAY! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

[mepstein]

Just bought the correct '95 993 3.6 harness; should have it in my hands by Tuesday. YAY! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

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[ClayPerrine]

Basically hook the diaphragm valve to the charcoal canister line that went to the air cleaner, and hook the other one to the 911 air cleaner. The reason for doing it this way is the charcoal canister has to have the correct airflow direction to work properly. Hooking it up like this makes sure the airflow is correct in the canister.

Thanks @clayperrine Is the diaphragm a 964 part? We just have a control solenoid on the motor. Where is the diaphragm at on a 1995 993?

The 993 uses a slightly different system. I don't think it is compatible with the 914 charcoal canister. Just get the 964 diaphragm valve and hook it up like a 964.

@clayperrine is the part number 928-110-429-09-OEM ? Porsche Fuel Tank Breather Valve. It looks like the correct part.

I don't know. Mine came with the intake system I bought.

Clay

[Steve]

Basically hook the diaphragm valve to the charcoal canister line that went to the air cleaner, and hook the other one to the 911 air cleaner. The reason for doing it this way is the charcoal canister has to have the correct airflow direction to work properly. Hooking it up like this makes sure the airflow is correct in the canister.

Thanks @clayperrine Is the diaphragm a 964 part? We just have a control solenoid on the motor. Where is the diaphragm at on a 1995 993?

The 993 uses a slightly different system. I don't think it is compatible with the 914 charcoal canister. Just get the 964 diaphragm valve and hook it up like a 964.

@clayperrine is the part number 928-110-429-09-OEM ? Porsche Fuel Tank Breather Valve. It looks like the correct part.

I don't know. Mine came with the intake system I bought.

Clay

It looks correct based on my research. I ordered one from Pelican. Thanks for the help!!

[Cairo94507]

@Steve Please send me a picture so I can see if I need one too. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

[Steve]

@Steve Please send me a picture so I can see if I need one too. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

@cairo94507 Here is a link to the part from Pelican. https://www.pelicanparts.com/More_Info/9281...amp;SVSVSI=0643

It's a 964 part, but it does make sense according to Clay and from what I have read. Clay says without it the DME will throw an error. It looks pretty simple to connect up.

[ClayPerrine]

@Steve Please send me a picture so I can see if I need one too. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

@cairo94507 Here is a link to the part from Pelican. https://www.pelicanparts.com/More_Info/9281...amp;SVSVSI=0643

It's a 964 part, but it does make sense according to Clay and from what I have read. Clay says without it the DME will throw an error. It looks pretty simple to connect up.

The DME will throw an error if you don't hook up the solenoid valve. But it is very simple to hook up the rest of it and have the emissions evap system working. Plus it make your garage not smell of eau-de-petrol.