Cairo's Six - 3.6 in and running great! Options

[Cairo94507]

On my list is to borrow an unrestored deep 6 rim and mount a 205 x 65 x 15 tire and move it around the car to see if it will clear. Once I figure out which tire I want and if it fits, I will get a set for my wheels. Right now I am running 195 x 65 x 15. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

[Dion]

Congratulations Michael, another long journey fulfilled. Car looks awesome.
Good luck with finding the right tyres you like.
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[Biggles]

On my list is to borrow an unrestored deep 6 rim and mount a 205 x 65 x 15 tire and move it around the car to see if it will clear. Once I figure out which tire I want and if it fits, I will get a set for my wheels. Right now I am running 195 x 65 x 15. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

I'd be interested to know Michael if a 195 on the front feels noticeably less heavy on steering than a 205 or not ? I'm running 205 65 15 on the front and 225s on the rear with a 3.2 engine set up.
Also I've never driven any other 914s but mine doesn't really like road bumps and the suspension does seem to crash/bang a bit if theres the slightest pot hole (which is a problem on our rubbish UK roads!). I've never known if that's just how these cars are? It's had renewed dampers with a 16mm anti roll bar and had usual suspension set up.
Cheers
Chris.

[Steve]

On my list is to borrow an unrestored deep 6 rim and mount a 205 x 65 x 15 tire and move it around the car to see if it will clear. Once I figure out which tire I want and if it fits, I will get a set for my wheels. Right now I am running 195 x 65 x 15. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

I'd be interested to know Michael if a 195 on the front feels noticeably less heavy on steering than a 205 or not ? I'm running 205 65 15 on the front and 225s on the rear with a 3.2 engine set up.
Also I've never driven any other 914s but mine doesn't really like road bumps and the suspension does seem to crash/bang a bit if theres the slightest pot hole (which is a problem on our rubbish UK roads!). I've never known if that's just how these cars are? It's had renewed dampers with a 16mm anti roll bar and had usual suspension set up.
Cheers
Chris.

Curious if you are running an adjustable front sway bar? I learned the hard way that my 22mm front Tarret bar was causing most of my pot hole issues. When you hit a pot hole with one wheel, the sway bar is engaged. By adjusting it to the lightest setting it made a big difference on potholes. Otherwise I also switched to an adjustable koni in the front and that helped a little. Otherwise I compared my 225 x17" front with 205x55x16 and of course the 205x55 with higher profile rode nicer and easier to steer. Not the same as your 15" comparison, but these cars were designed for 25" tall tires, how you get there depends on the rim and tire.

[Cairo94507]

The 195x65x15 are not heavy at all when turning; very easy to steer. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

[ClayPerrine]

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We have 195/65-15s on Elwood (the original six). It steers nicely with no heaviness in the steering, unless you are not moving.

With that and the pea gravel driveway, getting out of the garage is a workout for all our 914s.

[Biggles]

On my list is to borrow an unrestored deep 6 rim and mount a 205 x 65 x 15 tire and move it around the car to see if it will clear. Once I figure out which tire I want and if it fits, I will get a set for my wheels. Right now I am running 195 x 65 x 15. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

I'd be interested to know Michael if a 195 on the front feels noticeably less heavy on steering than a 205 or not ? I'm running 205 65 15 on the front and 225s on the rear with a 3.2 engine set up.
Also I've never driven any other 914s but mine doesn't really like road bumps and the suspension does seem to crash/bang a bit if theres the slightest pot hole (which is a problem on our rubbish UK roads!). I've never known if that's just how these cars are? It's had renewed dampers with a 16mm anti roll bar and had usual suspension set up.
Cheers
Chris.

Curious if you are running an adjustable front sway bar? I learned the hard way that my 22mm front Tarret bar was causing most of my pot hole issues. When you hit a pot hole with one wheel, the sway bar is engaged. By adjusting it to the lightest setting it made a big difference on potholes. Otherwise I also switched to an adjustable koni in the front and that helped a little. Otherwise I compared my 225 x17" front with 205x55x16 and of course the 205x55 with higher profile rode nicer and easier to steer. Not the same as your 15" comparison, but these cars were designed for 25" tall tires, how you get there depends on the rim and tire.

No adjustable anti roll bar. Just a standard 16mm one. Can't imagine I should or could go less than this and probably about the same as your 22mm bar on the lightest setting? Who knows. Maybe that's just how they are but there is usually a big bang when it goes over even a smallish pot hole. Smooth roads it all behaves very well. Maybe I'm just asking too much of it!
I think i'll certainly try a 195 front next and see how it goes.
Anyway don't want to hijack Michael's thread ! Thanks guys.

[jim dorociak]

I also wonder what tire pressure you guys are running as too high will impact the harness passed back into the car. I am excited to see your 3.6 installed and can not wait for additional feedback as to the differences between the 3.2 while living with such a beast of a motor. Love your car - thank you again for sharing. Jim Dorociak

[Biggles]

I also wonder what tire pressure you guys are running as too high will impact the harness passed back into the car. I am excited to see your 3.6 installed and can not wait for additional feedback as to the differences between the 3.2 while living with such a beast of a motor. Love your car - thank you again for sharing. Jim Dorociak

For me 24 psi front 28 psi rear.
205 x 65 x 15 f
225 x 65 x 15 r

[burton73]

For you guys: Info on Marks Blue Car with the Bob / Mark rebuild finished my PMB Performance
Stock body 74 car. The wheels are copies of Deep 6 front and 7rs rear. Copy of Deep 7s with extra 1 in going to the inside.

215-15R rear 1/2” spacer on the 7r wheel. Fender roll provides 1/2” clearance. 205-15r front on 6 wheel with 1/4” spacer.

At the time Eric said this was the 1st time they actually installed this set up. Was just theoretical previous. He will use this configuration going forward on non flared builds

Mark says no scraping at all.

Best Bob B

[JmuRiz]

Wish someone made a 7R offset in a 16x7 wheel. That'd be perfect!!!

[ClayPerrine]

Wish someone made a 7R offset in a 16x7 wheel. That'd be perfect!!!

944 turbo fronts will work.

[JmuRiz]

I think the 16x7 on the 951 are the same offset as normal 911 16x7, only the 16x8 rear have a difference.

[burton73]

I think the 16x7 on the 951 are the same offset as normal 911 16x7, only the 16x8 rear have a difference.

--------From Michael,----------

On my list is to borrow an unrestored deep 6 rim and mount a 205 x 65 x 15 tire and move it around the car to see if it will clear. Once I figure out which tire I want and if it fits, I will get a set for my wheels. Right now I am running 195 x 65 x 15. beerchug.gif

I posted a number of things on 951 7 and 8s before as that was what was going on the blue car in my mind. I had 2 sets that I have sold now.

Michael is looking for answerers for his righteous refinishedfinished deep 6s x15 and this is as good of an answer as I can come up with.

Best Bob B

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[Cairo94507]

@burton73 Thank you Bob; I will definitely check that out. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

[914dave]

your car has been quite a journey over the years. Thanks for taking us along for the ride! Enjoy

[Cairo94507]

@914Dave = You are quite welcome; my pleasure. I have enjoyed the whole process. My goal from the beginning was to document the entire build so others can see what it takes and realize it can be done.

[Cairo94507]

My car was apart from February 16th to August 4th. In that almost 6 months of being crawled over and worked on we had only 1 very minor mishap. We ended up with a small, soft dent, maybe the size of a dime, on the trunk lid, maybe 6" back of the engine lid on the passenger side. Fortunately, no paint damage. I have been around enough shops and cars getting worked on to know stuff happens.

I called a shop recommended by Porsche of Rocklin- Bullseye Paintless Dent Removal, (Bullseyedent.com) located in Roseville. When I called last week and spoke with the owner, Keith, I told him I had an original 914-6. He said those are rare and he has not seen one in years. He said he would be there when I brought my car in.

This morning I met Keith and his employee Shawn. Their shop is exactly what you want to see when you roll in their door. Immaculate and stocked with everything they could ever need to work on your car. Two very nice guys indeed.

Keith actually worked on my car. First he used his paint gauge to measure the material on my car to identify any possible issues; (bondo) none were apparent. He took his time, about 1 hour, as he slowly and methodically worked the soft dent out. I have watched PDR guys work on my cars before but I have to admit this was a nail-biting experience. Fortunately, any anxiety I had was not merited. Keith did a great job and that small, soft dent is now history. I highly recommend Bullseye Paintless Dent Removal.

I am taking my car to Mels Original Diner in Auburn for a car show this Saturday, 8/17. Now that the dent is gone, I will feel much better about showing it. Yeah, Mels is mostly a hot rod kind of show, think American Graffiti, but I kind of feel like my car has a toe in the hot rod pond. I love muscle cars so my brother and I are looking forward to a fun day. If you are in the area, feel free to stop by and say hello. I am pretty sure I will have the only 914 in the show.

Cheers,
Michael (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

[markhoward]

Looking good Michael! Have an unrestored deep 6 that you can borrow to experiment tires with. Let me know if you still need one.

[Cairo94507]

Thank you Mark; that is very generous. When the time is right, I will reach out for the wheel. Cheers, Michael (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)